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Russell L. Harris | 1 Sep 02:33
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Re: maidir monitor for gnome

Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I
installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good
package.  But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification
generated an error message on the terminal screen.

I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also
appeared to be a good package.  The only problem which I encountered
with gnubiff is that the "when double-clicked" option does not appear
to work.  I set the command string to "/usr/bin/mutt", but I cannot
start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon.  Otherwise, gnubiff
appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it.

Thanks for your response.

RLH
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shen xiaofei | 1 Sep 06:24

Re: maidir monitor for gnome

Hello,"Russell L. Harris" <rlharris <at> oplink.net>!

* You wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 07:33:54PM -0500:
> Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I
> installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good
> package.  But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification
> generated an error message on the terminal screen.
> 
> I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also
> appeared to be a good package.  The only problem which I encountered
> with gnubiff is that the "when double-clicked" option does not appear
> to work.  I set the command string to "/usr/bin/mutt", but I cannot

xterm -e /usr/bin/mutt

> start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon.  Otherwise, gnubiff
> appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it.
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
> RLH
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Russell L. Harris | 1 Sep 07:24
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Re: maidir monitor for gnome

* shen xiaofei <shen <at> feii.net> [070831 23:28]:
> Hello,"Russell L. Harris" <rlharris <at> oplink.net>!
> 
> * You wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 07:33:54PM -0500:
> > Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I
> > installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good
> > package.  But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification
> > generated an error message on the terminal screen.
> > 
> > I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also
> > appeared to be a good package.  The only problem which I encountered
> > with gnubiff is that the "when double-clicked" option does not appear
> > to work.  I set the command string to "/usr/bin/mutt", but I cannot
> 
> xterm -e /usr/bin/mutt
> 
> > start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon.  Otherwise, gnubiff
> > appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it.

Amazing!  I thank you, Shen.  

This is my first experience with xterm.  I have been using Multi Gnome
Terminal except when I wish to run mc (midnight commander).  mc
doesn't work very well with multi gnome terminal, so for mc I open
gnome terminal.

RLH
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Alain Bench | 1 Sep 11:14
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Re: Subject charset issue

Hello,

 On Wednesday, August 29, 2007 at 15:49:35 -0400, dv1445 <at> wayne.edu wrote:

> the correctly-shown "from" is the very first time, ever, in my history
> with mutt that an accented character has been displayed. Normally,
> I get either a single question-mark or a double one.

    This means that your terminal does UTF-8, but $charset doesn't. You
can pick nearly any charset. But Terminal.app, current locale, and
Mutt's $charset have to agree.

> export LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1 [...] typing :set &charset ?charset. Mutt
> revealed that charset="US-ASCII".

    Something interferes, perhaps:

 - Env vars LC_CTYPE or LC_ALL overrule LANG: Unset them.

 - MacOS-X wants a specific spelling of locales: Try "en_US.ISO8859-1".

 - This locale is not installed: Install it, generate it, or pick one
already available in "locale -a".

    At each step, restart Mutt and check the ":set &charset ?charset"
until it shows "iso-8859-1". If nothing works, please report back, and
say us the version of MacOS-X.

Bye!	Alain.
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dv1445 | 1 Sep 20:24
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Re: Subject charset issue

Thus spake Alain Bench [09/01/07 @ 11.14.46 +0200]:
> > the correctly-shown "from" is the very first time, ever, in my history
> > with mutt that an accented character has been displayed. Normally,
> > I get either a single question-mark or a double one.
> 
>     This means that your terminal does UTF-8, but $charset doesn't. You
> can pick nearly any charset. But Terminal.app, current locale, and
> Mutt's $charset have to agree.

I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible.  Most accented chars still were garbled. 
Plus, I sent a test mail to myself with some accented chars, and although they looked fine when I sent it,
they were garbled upon receipt (it wasn't slashes and digits, it was UTF?..blah blah).  Perhaps my
school's IMAP server is using a particular charset.  I have no idea how these things work.

I was able to get mutt and bash to agree on en_US.ISO8859-1, but there is no option for that in Terminal.app's
preferences.  I only see "Western (ISO Latin 1)" and "Western (ISO Latin 9)" [In fact, I even opened up
Terminal.app's .plist to see if I could manually put in the right string, but no dice].  I tried it anyway,
and it was almost proper.  The accented 'o' in 'Cristobal', i.e., 'ó', showed up in the subjects and bodies
of people's emails who were quoting him, but it ceased to be rendered correctly in Cristobal's own From:
line, whereas it was fine before I started meddling.  Instead of the correct char, I got a tilde over a
capital A and some other junk.  This seems like a step backward.  So far everything else seems to be OK; I sent
another test mail with accented chars and it wen
 t through fine.  Am I doing something wrong?

>     Something interferes, perhaps:
> 
>  - Env vars LC_CTYPE or LC_ALL overrule LANG: Unset them.

Neither of these were set by default, so I just used LANG
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dv1445 | 1 Sep 20:43
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Re: Subject charset issue

Thus spake dv1445 <at> wayne.edu [09/01/07 @ 14.24.47 -0400]:
> I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible.  Most accented chars still were
garbled.  Plus, I sent a test mail to myself with some accented chars, and although they looked fine when I
sent it, they were garbled upon receipt (it wasn't slashes and digits, it was UTF?..blah blah).  Perhaps my
school's IMAP server is using a particular charset.  I have no idea how these things work.

More on this: when I rename an IMAP folder on this school account, instead of giving me the original name of
the folder, it gives me \xxx\xxx... where the xs are digits.  This was always the case; does it mean that I
should be using UTF-8 on my school account?  Pardon the utter ignorance here.

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Christian Ebert | 2 Sep 12:12
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Re: Subject charset issue

* dv1445 <at> wayne.edu on Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 14:24:47 -0400
> I was able to get mutt and bash to agree on en_US.ISO8859-1,
> but there is no option for that in Terminal.app's preferences.
> I only see "Western (ISO Latin 1)" and "Western (ISO Latin 9)"
> [In fact, I even opened up Terminal.app's .plist to see if I
> could manually put in the right string, but no dice].

[Menu] File -> Show Info -> Display -> Character Set Encoding
and then choose "Unicode (UTF-8)"

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Alain Bench | 2 Sep 11:03
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Re: Subject charset issue

 On Saturday, September 1, 2007 at 14:24:47 -0400, dv1445 <at> wayne.edu wrote:

> I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible.
> Most accented chars still were garbled.

    Strange: I've seen reports about this very setting working OK on
MacOS-X. The shell command "locale charmap" prints something? And what
for the usual ":set &charset ?charset" (normally the first "UTF-8", the
later "utf-8").

> Plus, I sent a test mail to myself with some accented chars, and
> although they looked fine when I sent it, they were garbled upon
> receipt (it wasn't slashes and digits, it was UTF?..blah blah).

    Your mail server seems to be the Sun Java System Messaging Server,
a sequel of the ugly iPlanet, well(!) known for its careless
reinterpretation, rewriting, and reordering of headers, dirty
reencodings, munging of crypographic contents, modified msgids, lost
messages, and so on. IMHO a hype toy, not to be used for serious work.

    However, we can't be sure if it's its fault, or effect of some
charset mix in your config. Could you please send me a test mail, in
UTF-8 setup, with Cristóbal's accent both in subject and in body?

> I was able to get mutt and bash to agree on en_US.ISO8859-1, but there
> is no option for that in Terminal.app's preferences. I only see
> "Western (ISO Latin 1)"

    That's it: Latin-1 and 8859-1 are the one same thing.
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Marco Vittorini Orgeas | 2 Sep 14:54
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How to browse Imap folders?

Hello to the list,my situation is the follow:
I am successfully connecting to my imap server trough an account hook(i 
do a "c" + "<tab>" + "<tab>" for select my mailboxes),and mutt 
automatically logon on the inbox folders of my account.
On my imap server I have some other folders than just Inbox (they are 
obviously subfolders of my INBOX) and i want to navigate them.
For doing this I do again a "c" + "<tab>" for view my *current* folder 
subfolders, but it shows me again my local (localhost) mail home folder. 
And hitting again "<tab>" shows me again my mailboxes.
I read trough the manual,the wiki and in this list archives,but i am not 
lucky.
This is my imap muttrc section:
> account-hook imap://mavior.eu/ 'set imap_user=myuser imap_pass=mypass'
> folder-hook imap://mavior.eu/ 'set folder=imap://mavior.eu/'
>
> account-hook imap://kdo.it 'set imap_user=myuser imap_pass=mypass'
> folder-hook imap://kdo.it 'set folder=imap://kdo.it'
>
> mailboxes = imap://mavior.eu/
> mailboxes = imap://kdo.it/

Is it possible to browse my imap folders, without do "c" and write down 
every time my imap address and then browse with auto-completing?
I am pretty new to mutt,but if I am not wrong the folder-hook commands 
are not working in my case!
thank you for any helps,suggestions.

Marco
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Alex Polite | 2 Sep 15:03
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Re: How to browse Imap folders?

I've found mutts IMAP-support to be less than stellar. A good
workaround is to use a IMAP-Maildir syncronizer like offlineimap.

 http://software.complete.org/offlineimap

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