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Cameron Simpson | 1 Jun 03:43
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Re: Any way to assign mutt timezone?

On 31May2006 16:51, Byspel <by_spel <at> fastmail.net> wrote:
| On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:37:45PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
| > You could put the timezone package on another machine, and then just
| > install the single timezone file from it that is needed for your time
| > zone. Should work.
| 
| This is actually a laptop, most of the time accessing the internet
| through wireless connections in libraries, cafes, etc.  Not really
| part of a private network.

Tell me your timezone and I can send you the files you need then.
Is the idea itself acceptable to you?
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Cameron Simpson | 1 Jun 03:44
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Re: Any way to assign mutt timezone?

On 31May2006 16:47, Byspel <by_spel <at> fastmail.net> wrote:
| On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:36:30PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
| > I just think nobody has explained clearly what happens.
| > 
| > The timezone package (called "tzdata" for my RedHat/Fedora systems) is a
| [SNIP]
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| Thank you for your thorough explanation.
| So, conceivably, I could install just the tables for my own timezone
| and perhaps other necessary files, if needed.

Yes.
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Byspel | 1 Jun 06:50
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Re: Any way to assign mutt timezone?

On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:43:34AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Tell me your timezone and I can send you the files you need then.
> Is the idea itself acceptable to you?

Actually, I've done it on my own, but thanks for offering.

It was done by using two files extracted from the slackware (my OS)
glibc-zoneinfo package. The first file for my timezone (US Pacific)
has gone permanently into /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/ and I've used
the second file (timeconfig, which is actually a timezone configuration
program normally found in /usr/sbin) to do the initial configuration
and then removed it from the system. This has achieved a functional 
installation of zoneinfo that has added only 1KB to the system (as
opposed to installing the whole zoneinfo package, which would have
wasted about 2MB in hard drive space with no further benefits).

I have to point out that I had /sbin/hwclock already installed. This
is a program called by a couple of /etc/rc.d/ scripts to synchronize
the hardware and system clocks at startup and shutdown.

I apologize for not realizing any sooner that this was not a mutt
issue after all. 

Thank you all who have contributed here making possible this learning 
experience.

C. Byspel
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Cameron Simpson | 1 Jun 08:11
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Re: Any way to assign mutt timezone?

On 31May2006 21:50, Byspel <by_spel <at> fastmail.net> wrote:
| I apologize for not realizing any sooner that this was not a mutt
| issue after all. 

If you don't know the innards of UNIX time it's not obviously not a mutt
problem. Even then it's not obviously not mutt.
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Christian Ebert | 1 Jun 16:17
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Automatic display of X-Face

Hello,

For those who'd like to display the X-Face of a message
automatically, here's a dirty way to do it:

--- xfacefilter.sh ---
#!/bin/sh
###################################################################
# display_filter for mutt                                         #
# to automatically show X-Faces in pager at end of message        #
#                                                                 #
# Required programs:                                              #
# formail, uncompface, icontopbm, image2ascii                     #
#                                                                 #
# Usage examples muttrc:                                          #
# unignore X-Face                                                 #
# set display_filter=xfacefilter.sh                               #
## in case you want to write tmpfile only if needed:              #
# message-hook ~A "set display_filter=''"                         #
# message-hook "~h ^X-Face:." "set display_filter=xfacefilter.sh" #
## at end of filter chain:                                        #
# set display_filter="sed -f myfilter.sed|xfacefilter.sh"         #
###################################################################
set -e
self=${0##*/}
CLEANUP()
{
	rm -f "$tf"
}
trap "CLEANUP" 0 1 2 3 15
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Wilkinson, Alex | 1 Jun 16:36
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Re: Changing charset of mail to be sent

    0n Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:31:47AM -0400, Remi wrote: 

    >Hi,
    >
    >I'm looking for a way to change manually the charset of mail to be sent.
    >
    >I write in English, French, and Japanese. So selecting the proper 
    >charset can often be a pain in the behind.
    >
    >If the e-mail I write is just in English, I guess any encoding can be 
    >fine. Though, when writing in French, I need to select iso-8859-1 or 
    >utf-8. In Japanese, iso-2022-jp, euc-jp, or utf-8. When I write both in 
    >French and Japanese, I must use utf-8, or else French accents on letters 
    >gets confused for Japanese characters.
    >
    >Personally, I'd love to use utf-8 all the time. But for some reason, 
    >many free Web mail services don't work well with utf-8. (For example, 
    >Hotmail and Yahoo. At least the Japanese version of those services.)
    >
    >I tried setting $send_charset, but often it doesn't give me the charset 
    >I want. I checked the manual and I don't find any way to change the 
    >charset manually.
    >
    >So, I'm wondering, does anyone know how to change the charset of an 
    >outgoing e-mail manually?

Okay, braving up here. I am a newbie when it comes to char sets.
What is meant by UTF-8 ?

 -aW
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Rocco Rutte | 1 Jun 17:01
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Re: Changing charset of mail to be sent

Hi,

* Wilkinson, Alex [06-06-02 00:06:50 +0930] wrote:

>Okay, braving up here. I am a newbie when it comes to char sets.
>What is meant by UTF-8 ?

"utf-8" is an encoding scheme for Unicode and Unicode is something like 
a huge table which stores all possible types of characters.

With Unicode and Utf-8 (there're other encoding schemes, too), you can 
nearly mix up all types of characters in just one mail/text 
file/website/... like:

   α² + β² = γ² ← ∫₀¹x⋅dx ⋯ ∂x/∂y ⋯

   bye, Rocco
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Rado S | 1 Jun 17:13
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Re: Poll: personal convenience vs. global improvement of docs

Mooo!

I've let some time pass to cool down and relax to do away the steam
and focus on the content. I'm sorry for the long delay, it takes
some time to read + write _carefully_, and this is what I do: care.
 Do you care? Do you care to read? For a well reasoned vote it is
_mandadatory_ to _carefully_ read _all_ of /Discussion, /Vote and
the main page. I hope Thomas (tlr) doesn't listen just to the mass
of "gut feeling" deciders.

In short:
 some of you MISS THE POINTS of all of this (and/ or how to do it)!

init0 (from IRC) asked my why I put the poll originally so
defensively. Because I hoped the mutt community would respectfully
read _all_ the stuff, understand and then act accordingly (how +
why to vote, not what).

 But obviously some of you are
	disrespectful, uncaring, unable or arrogant snobs
 (or a combination of those) to RTFP (m=poll), or else I don't
understand how some failed to even edit a page, or begin repeating
stuff already covered and adding LOTS of repeated stuff on the
/Vote page, where it doesn't belong.

> we need your vote to learn whether _you_ (personally, individually)
> are willing to accept
> 	a major (single) change of your personal muttrc
> in favour of improved docs support for newbies by introducing
> 	a muttrc variables naming scheme.
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Kurt Petersen | 1 Jun 20:24
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Setting Reply-To

Hi 

I need to set the address in the Reply-To: and the From_ headers in
outgoing (new) mail. 

How can this be set in .muttrc?

I couldn't find it in manual.gz.

Can someone help?

Thanks!
Kurt
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Charles Cazabon | 1 Jun 20:34
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Re: Setting Reply-To

Kurt wrote:

> I need to set the address in the Reply-To: and the From_ headers in
> outgoing (new) mail.

Do you mean you want to set them to the same address?  If so, why?  There's no
point in setting Reply-To: if the address in From: is correct.

Otherwise, mutt has an edit-reply-to command, which you can bind to whatever
key you like -- it's in the manual.

Charles
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