headers
kevin lyda | 1 Mar 2003 02:31
Gravatar

Re: OT: spam

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 05:47:59PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
> Yes, of course. But it doesn't have to be an identifying address, just a
> functioning one; and many spammers are traceable to this extent already,
> and don't mind.

this is way, way offtopic, but as a data point i've come across 10 spams
(from 10 different spammers) out of about 20,000 spams that replied to the
confirm message.  so either my confirm message is sufficiently frightening
to spammers (i charge EUR 1,000 to review confirmed spams) or this must
be a new meaning for "many" that has somehow elluded me.

again, i highly suggest people look at tmda, or systems that work
like tmda.  i'm not saying everyone should use it or anything, i'm just
saying that i find it highly effective.

kevin

--

-- 
kevin <at> ie.suberic.net     if the un could speak...
fork()'ed on 37058400       dubya (excited): "the un risks being irrelevant!"
meatspace place: home          un (dejected): "it beats being irresponsible."
http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin/     (inspired by http://www.claybennett.com/)
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Graham Collins | 1 Mar 2003 02:53

Re: mutt FRONTEND

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:37:51 +0100
Oliver Ob <ob_ok <at> gmx.net> wrote:

>What frontends do we have for mutt?

Mutt

>If so: What is best from your personal experience?

As above.

Mutt is a frontend. If you want a pointy-clicky mail client other than your current Mozilla, you should
perhaps look at sylpheed/sylpheed-claws. I'm in the process of weaning myself from Sylpheed to Mutt, but
would still recommend it strongly for folk wanting a gui with buttons, drop-down menus, themes and so on.

Graham.
Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |
headers
Peter Davis | 1 Mar 2003 04:55
Picon
Picon
Favicon

Re: mutt FRONTEND

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:53:04AM +0000, Graham Collins wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:37:51 +0100
> Oliver Ob <ob_ok <at> gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> >What frontends do we have for mutt?
> 
> Mutt
> 
> >If so: What is best from your personal experience?
> 
> As above.
> 
> Mutt is a frontend. If you want a pointy-clicky mail client other
> than your current Mozilla, you should perhaps look at
> sylpheed/sylpheed-claws. I'm in the process of weaning myself from
> Sylpheed to Mutt, but would still recommend it strongly for folk
> wanting a gui with buttons, drop-down menus, themes and so on.

Wow!  I was not familiar with Sylpheed, but it certainly looks
interesting.  I'll definitely play around with it some more.  This is
another good reason for keeping all my mail in MH format.

Thanks,

-pd

--

-- 
--------
                             Peter Davis
               Funny stuff at http://www.pfdstudio.com
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Michael D. Schleif | 1 Mar 2003 08:36

Re: folder-hook: current-middle ???

No ideas?

Also sprach Michael D. Schleif (Thu 27 Feb 02003 at 11:05:26AM -0600):
> Also sprach Ren? Clerc (Thu 27 Feb 02003 at 05:15:51PM +0100):
> > * Michael D. Schleif <mds <at> helices.org> [27-02-2003 17:06]:
> > 
> > > I do not understand why this does not work:
> > > 
> > > 	folder-hook . exec current-middle
> > > 
> > > What I want to do is to enter any folder and the highlighted message is
> > > at center of screen.
> > 
> > (in a hurry)
> > 
> > I have:
> > 
> > macro index ,c "<current-middle>"
> > folder-hook .  "push ',c'"
> > 
> > which works.
> 
> No, for me it does *NOT* work.
> 
> I am on debian using the DEB:
> 
> # mutt -v
> Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29)
> Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others.
> Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 4 comments |
headers
Oliver Ob | 1 Mar 2003 10:46
Picon

Re: mutt FRONTEND

Michael Raab schrieb:
> 
> * at 28. Feb. 2003 wrote Oliver Ob:
> > What frontends do we have for mutt?
> 
> A Terminal aka gnome-terminal.
> 
> > If so: What is best from your personal experience?
> 
> A MUA without to pitchfork a Mouse. ;)
> 
> Bye Michael

No you do not know what I mean.

I was asking for a frontend - something that runs under X/KDE and
sends commands to mutt.

--

-- 
   *º¤.,___,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤         =Oliver <at> home=         *º¤.,¸¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤
   I   / __|__   http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html  I
   I  / /  |_/   http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html    I
   I  \ \__|_\   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93              I
   I   \___|     mailto:VGAP-93-subscribe <at> yahoogroups.com           I
   >>>  Telek0ma iBBMS - moving house, but online! +49....TRSi1   <<<
Permalink | Reply | 3 comments |
headers
Oliver Ob | 1 Mar 2003 10:46
Picon

Re: mutt FRONTEND

Bruno Lustosa schrieb:
> 
> * Oliver Ob <ob_ok <at> gmx.net> [28-02-2003 13:36]:
> > What frontends do we have for mutt?
> > If so: What is best from your personal experience?
> 
> Frontend for mutt? What do you mean by that?
> Isn't mutt already a full-featured frontend for the e-mailing system?

It certainly is.

I need a frontend that runs X/KDE and uses mutt in the background

Reason is simple: I LOVE mutt, want to make others use it, but mostly
they need something that is "grafical", i.e. X11, KDE

--

-- 
   *º¤.,___,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤         =Oliver <at> home=         *º¤.,¸¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤
   I   / __|__   http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html  I
   I  / /  |_/   http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html    I
   I  \ \__|_\   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93              I
   I   \___|     mailto:VGAP-93-subscribe <at> yahoogroups.com           I
   >>>  Telek0ma iBBMS - moving house, but online! +49....TRSi1   <<<
Permalink | Reply | 10 comments |
headers
Cameron Simpson | 1 Mar 2003 12:28
Picon
Picon
Gravatar

Re: mutt FRONTEND

On 10:46 01 Mar 2003, Oliver Ob <ob_ok <at> gmx.net> wrote:
| Michael Raab schrieb:
| > * at 28. Feb. 2003 wrote Oliver Ob:
| > > What frontends do we have for mutt?
| > 
| > A Terminal aka gnome-terminal.
[...]
| No you do not know what I mean.
| I was asking for a frontend - something that runs under X/KDE and
| sends commands to mutt.

Feh. That's what a terminal _does_!

Look, mutt _is_ a frontend, to mail folders.

Be more specific. What does you want from your hypothetical frontend that you
feel mutt doesn't supply?
--

-- 
Cameron Simpson, DoD#743        cs <at> zip.com.au    http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/

CP/M is to metric as cockroaches are to a Timex watch
	- booter <at> catnip.berkeley.ca.us
Permalink | Reply | 0 comments |
headers
Cliff Sarginson | 1 Mar 2003 11:18

Re: mutt FRONTEND

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:46:15AM +0100, Oliver Ob wrote:
> Bruno Lustosa schrieb:
> > 
> > * Oliver Ob <ob_ok <at> gmx.net> [28-02-2003 13:36]:
> > > What frontends do we have for mutt?
> > > If so: What is best from your personal experience?
> > 
> > Frontend for mutt? What do you mean by that?
> > Isn't mutt already a full-featured frontend for the e-mailing system?
> 
> It certainly is.
> 
> I need a frontend that runs X/KDE and uses mutt in the background
> 
> Reason is simple: I LOVE mutt, want to make others use it, but mostly
> they need something that is "grafical", i.e. X11, KDE
> 
> 
Run mutt in  console/xterm window ? It's what I do...works a treat.
If you are looking for a point-'n-clickey interface, I think you are on
a doomed quest.

Tell them for mutt the only use for the mouse is cut 'n paste. tell them
it reduces their risk of developing RSI, tell them it is almost
certainly the most powerful and configurable MUA they will currently
find....etc etc...it's worth the relatively small amount of effort to
learn the basic commands, and that when they want to do more sophisticated
things..it's almost certainly possible...well you are a fan of it, you
know the story !
(Continue reading)

Permalink | Reply | 3 comments |
headers
Piotr Zgorecki | 1 Mar 2003 14:20
Picon

~l in pattern matches

Hi,

Mutt's documentation says (in chapter 4.2):
~l              message is addressed to a known mailing list.

Well, not exactly, as I found. ~l only matches subscribed lists, and
not all known lists. So the docs are a bit misleading.
I use Debian's Mutt 1.5.3i.

Secondly, I tried 'set from' from send-hooks. Not that it doesn't
work, but why so late (it works after sending, so its changes are in
effect for the subsequent mail)? I didn't try other variables, but I
guess it's rather "set"'s nature. A bug or a feature?

Regards,
Piotr
Permalink | Reply | 2 comments |
headers
Michael Tatge | 1 Mar 2003 15:50
Picon

Re: ~l in pattern matches

Piotr Zgorecki (balboa <at> 14.pl) muttered:
> Secondly, I tried 'set from' from send-hooks. Not that it doesn't
> work, but why so late (it works after sending, so its changes are in
> effect for the subsequent mail)? I didn't try other variables, but I
> guess it's rather "set"'s nature. A bug or a feature?

use my_hdr From:

HTH,

Michael
--

-- 
Checking host system type...
i586-unknown-linux
configure: error: sorry, this is the gnu os, not linux
	-- Topic on #Linux

PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Permalink | Reply | 1 comment |

Gmane