J. Scott Dorr | 15 Mar 00:15 2002

Re: ~/Mailbox oddness?

On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:14:49AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> % On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Maarten den Braber wrote:
> % >
> % > Do you have some 'buffy' kind of program that checks ~/Mailbox?
> % 
> % To the best of my knowledge, no.  Though I'm not sure how that would affect
> % mutt's ability to keep track of new messages in that box...?
> 
> Because, as has been discussed on the list before, mutt doesn't actually
> know that there are new messages in the box; it simply knows that the
> modification timestamp (last write) is later than the access time stamp
> (last read) and, according to the definition that that fits, says there
> is new mail.  If biff or buffy were to update the access timestamp,
> though, then it wouldn't fit the "new mail" qualification any more.

Thanks Maarten and David, this put me on the right track.  It wasn't a biff,
buffy kind of thing, and my shell wasn't checking, but I had two other client
type apps that -did- check the mailbox periodically.  So, I disabled their
checking and, voila, mutt is happy.

This does bring up in my mind a curious conundrum.  The whole concept of apps
checking to see if the mailspool has new mail in it can/should be done in such
a way so that multiple apps can do it and not squash each others data.  Not
that much can be done about it at this point, it seems so many apps use this
current model. :/

- Myrddin
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Knute | 15 Mar 00:45 2002
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Re: OT: Re: attribution and quotes

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote:

> Rob, et al --

> ...and then Rob Reid said...
> % 
[snip]
> %   Netscape/LookOut users, and David himself seems to enjoy the attention.

> Actually, I don't, but that doesn't seem to keep it from coming my way,
> does it?  If such attention is the price I pay for using my desired indent
> string then so be it.  Here of all places I'm surprised to get such flack;
> mutt has a configurable $quote_regexp with a bunch of other chars in
> there already, and if I used : or | I'd probably never hear this crap.

Actually,  I'm concidering using < for replies.  :P

Knute | 15 Mar 00:56 2002
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Re: logical operator

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Heiko Heil wrote:

> Hello Mutt-users,

> taken from my ~/.muttrc:
> save-hook "~t tux <at> xxx.xx|~c tux <at> xxx.xx" +tux

> Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid
> redundancy?

> I didn't succeed with this attempt:
> save-hook "(~t|~c) tux <at> xxx.xx" +tux

Try this one:
	save-hook ~Ltux <at> xxx.xx +tux
Joel Hammer | 15 Mar 00:53 2002

Re: Opening html links in text mail

Yes!! This is just what I wanted. xclip -o just dumps the current clipboard
into your script. Very nice. Very userful. Whata great utility.
Thanks,
Joel

On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:49:14AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:15:27PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:09:09PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
> 
> > > Is there a way to run a shell script which would automatically read in
> > > the current contents of the clipboard, thus avoiding the need for the
> > > mouse click?
> > 
> > I used to have a program that did this on an earlier version of HP-UX,
> > so it is possible.  It just echoed the clipboard contents to stdout.  I
> > don't think I have it any more, though, so you might see if freshmeat
> > has one.
> 
> Eureka!  Check out http://freshmeat.net/projects/xclip/:
> 
>     xclip is a command line utility that is designed to run on any
>     system with an X11 implementation. It provides an interface to X
>     selections ("the clipboard") from the command line. It can read data
>     from standard in or a file and place it in an X selection for
>     pasting into other X applications. xclip can also print an X
>     selection to standard out, which can then be redirected to a file or
>     another program.
> 
> I haven't tried it yet myself, but it looks like it should do exactly
> what you want.
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pat | 15 Mar 01:38 2002
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am I having list probs

Has traffic disappeared or do I have list problems??  Please cc: me at
the reply-to address in header.

tks
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Dean Richard Benson | 15 Mar 01:30 2002
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New Mail While In The Mailbox List View

Hi all

First time poster, so please be gentle! :)

I have just upgraded from Outlook 2000 to Mutt.

Using the most recent version and starting mutt via mutt -y to default to the folder list.

It shows me which folders have new mail in with the N character, but this never updates
unless I 
a) exit and restart mutt
b) go into a folder and then back to the folder list

Is this the expected operation or have a fscked up? :)

If you need any more details, please let me know.

Thanks

Dean

Will Yardley | 15 Mar 01:58 2002
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Re: New Mail While In The Mailbox List View

Dean Richard Benson wrote:
>
> First time poster, so please be gentle! :)
>
> I have just upgraded from Outlook 2000 to Mutt.

that's a big upgrade! also a very different way of doing things. one
minor thing... you don't appear to be wrapping your lines in your
editor... it's generally considered polite to wrap your lines around
72-74 characters. how you do this depends on your editor - check the
archives for information on how to do this with various editors.

> Using the most recent version and starting mutt via mutt -y to
> default to the folder list.

> It shows me which folders have new mail in with the N character, but
> this never updates unless I a) exit and restart mutt b) go into a
> folder and then back to the folder list
>
> Is this the expected operation or have a fscked up? :)

i'm pretty sure that's the normal operation... hasn't caused me problems
personally since i usually switch to the file browser from one of my
folders....

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Sven Guckes | 15 Mar 02:50 2002
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Re: send-hook for local addresses -> negated pattern

* Andy Spiegl <mutt.Andy <at> spiegl.de> [2002-03-14 17:54]:
> > I haven't tested it yet, and I don't know how clever the regex
> > engine is for hooks, but have you tried "send-hook [^ <at> ]* ..." yet?
> No, I haven't.  Great idea... and it worked!
> So mutts regex engine is really smart :-)

  send-hook !  <at>  'set signature=~.sig/foo'

note the '!' which negates the pattern.
it's all in the manual... ;-)

Sven  [it just needs more examples]

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Sven Guckes | 15 Mar 02:53 2002
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Re: [OT] stripping pgp sigs [procmail]

* Timothy Ball <timball <at> tux.org> [2002-03-14 22:01]:
> I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out
> all the pgp sigs from messages but I don't know the correct
> kungfu to do this w/ procmail. Anyone do this before?

  :0
  * Content-Type: multipart/signed
  DEVNULL

works for me. ;-)

Sven

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Shawn McMahon | 15 Mar 15:41 2002

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote:
> 
> So, since lists are so easy to recognize, have a script that generates
> mailing list names from your directories and put something like

Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't
put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if
the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email
was from a list.

That simplifies matters immensely.

Does that mean you can always tell what the list address is?  No, of
course not.  You check for header lines with "post" in them, and pull
addresses.  If there aren't any, you pop up the "From:" as a default,
and let the user userride it like any other prompted option.

This will miss a lot of lists.  So only require the user to hint those
in the config file, not ALL of them.

Why do people assume any solution that doesn't work 100% of the time is
a bad solution?  Most solutions fit the most common case and try not to
make any irrevocable choices in the others.


Gmane