Kenneth Porter | 1 Feb 2006 02:17

Re: Adding support for learning our addresses

On Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:18 AM -0500 "Kevin A. McGrail" 
<kmcgrail <at> pccc.com> wrote:

> If you would like to use the system, email me your daily mail volume and
> I'll forward your request.  If approved, I'll send you the MD code and SA
> rule files.

Why not add it to the wiki?

Kenneth Porter | 1 Feb 2006 02:22

Re: Kama Sutra worm set to bite next week

On Monday, January 30, 2006 2:48 PM +0200 ms <at> interspace.net wrote:

> Is everybody ready for the next wave of viruses??
> Kama Sutra worm set to bite next week...
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6031881.html

Symantec's detailed analysis:

<http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blackmal.e <at> mm.html>

Philip Prindeville | 1 Feb 2006 07:30

Re: Adding support for learning our addresses

Matthew.van.Eerde <at> hbinc.com wrote:

>>I think this would probably just yield the public IP address of your
>>DNS resolver, unless you queried the service's own DNS server
>>directly.

>Good point.  Still useful if /etc/resolv.conf is "nameserver 127.0.0.1" but less generally useful than I
had thought.

Can't you force the local resolver to do the recursion itself?

-Philip

Jan-Pieter Cornet | 1 Feb 2006 13:16
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OT: Re: Adding support for learning our addresses

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 05:16:58PM -0600, Sean Ware wrote:
> > They'd have to, or the TCP session would break.
> 
> That's what I was thinking. I was just trying to determine How Evil
> they actually were. Or if some other TCP magic was going on in the
> round-robin. -- At least some small shred of my sanity is retained.

That shred of sanity would quickly wash away once you actually use
one of those devices and tried to trouble shoot problems with it -
especially if loadbalanced boxes are trying to contact another virtual
service that's really serviced by another box but on the same network.
The silent changes to TCP headers are almost impossible to comprehend.

Been there, done that, got the straightjacket.

That said, having a bunch of sendmail/MD/SA boxes behind a loadbalancer
behaves quite good. If one machine accidentally starts eating itself
because some poor schmuck uploaded an mp3 file as .procmailrc, which
procmail always seems to see as an instruction to start forkbombing
and maillooping itself to oblivion, then one box goes down, but nobody
suffers because the machine will be taken out of the pool, and the
service as a whole just continues to run. (Well, you'd have to remove
the erroneous .procmailrc file before this user gets more mail and
takes more boxes down).

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Kevin A. McGrail | 1 Feb 2006 15:05
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Re: Adding support for learning our addresses

The project can only pay for so much bandwidth and it's not a solution that
scales to multipoint distribution like an RBL via DNS.

So at the moment, they are handpicking the people who get to use the system.

Regards,
KAM

> > If you would like to use the system, email me your daily mail volume and
> > I'll forward your request.  If approved, I'll send you the MD code and SA
> > rule files.
> 
> Why not add it to the wiki?
Dilyan Palauzov | 1 Feb 2006 17:09

when libmilter uses ldap

    Hello,
    I tried to compile mimedefang from source. It binds agains 
libmilter.a, which used libldap . In configure.in of Mimedefang this is 
foreseen with the lines:

AC_DEFUN(MD_SM_LDAP,[
    AC_MSG_CHECKING([whether libsm requires -lldap])
    RESULT=`$NM $LIBSM | grep ldap_`
    if test -z "$RESULT" ; then
        AC_MSG_RESULT(no)
    else
        AC_MSG_RESULT(yes)
        LIBS="$LIBS -lldap -llber"
    fi
])

however the string "ldap|" is not contained in the ./configure supplied 
with mimedefang 2.55 . I tried to autoreconf, and got the error message:
root <at> aegeeserv:/src/mimedefang-2.55# autoreconf
configure.in:634: warning: underquoted definition of MD_MILTER_SFIO
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal
configure.in:645: warning: underquoted definition of MD_SM_LDAP
configure.in:656: warning: underquoted definition of MD_MILTER_SM
/usr/share/aclocal-1.9/xmms.m4:17: warning: underquoted definition of 
XMMS_TEST_VERSION
[...]

When I compile mimedefang 2.55, I get
    gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -pthread -o mimedefang 
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Kotis, Ione | 1 Feb 2006 18:23

Compilation issue with MIMEDefang 2.55 on FreeBSD 4.10

I attempted to upgrade my two mail relays to MIMEDefang 2.55 (from
2.54), one running FreeBSD 5.4, the other 4.10.  Compilation of
mimedefang.c succeeds on 5.4, but fails on 4.10.  Adding <sys/types.h>
before <sys/socket.h> in mimedefang.h and bracketing { } the section
from line 403 to about 423 in mimedefang.c makes it compile, but since
I'm not a heavy-duty C programmer and haven't gone thru the entire
mimedefang code, I'm reluctant to use it.

I don't normally upgrade the OS on my systems until we get new systems
under our hardware replacement schedule unless there's a serious issue,
since they're in production and there's a risk of extended downtime.  I
suppose I"ll be upgrading sooner this time.

Ione
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Gary Funck | 2 Feb 2006 00:50

spams slipping by, because they bigger than the SA size cutoff


I've had a couple of spams drop in my inbox recently,
and at first, I couldn't see how they made it past SA.
I looked at the headers, and to my surprise, the message
hadn't been scanned by Spamassassin(!).  Why?  How?
I looked further, and noticed that one message was 800K
bytes, and the other 140K.  The first had an attached
.wmv file (hopefully not one of _those_ .wmv files, but
I didn't click on it to find out).

Both messages avoided being scanned by SA because they were
larger than the 100K limit we currently impose via MdF.

What to do?  I can bump the size limit, or have no limit at all.
I could consider building a temporary copy of the message
with non text and/or html attachments removed, and feed
that to SA, although that sounds a bit complicated and
computationally expensive.

BTW, a couple of years ago, I experiment with simpiy peeling
off the first N bytes off the front of large messages and
tacking on the last N bytes (where N = approx. 50K).  This
actually worked rather well, modulo the occassional malformed
MIME content.  I could do that, but it is a bit of hack,
and could result in having some valid ham messages mis-filed
as spam, partly because the MIME parts are garbled.

Thoughts?
Stephen J. Smoogen | 2 Feb 2006 01:21
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Re: spams slipping by, because they bigger than the SA size cutoff

On 2/1/06, Gary Funck <gary <at> intrepid.com> wrote:
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> I've had a couple of spams drop in my inbox recently,
> and at first, I couldn't see how they made it past SA.
> I looked at the headers, and to my surprise, the message
> hadn't been scanned by Spamassassin(!).  Why?  How?
> I looked further, and noticed that one message was 800K
> bytes, and the other 140K.  The first had an attached
> .wmv file (hopefully not one of _those_ .wmv files, but
> I didn't click on it to find out).
>

Well depending on how patched your system is.. and what application
you are using for email you do not have to click on the wmv file. Just
having some clients process the email can cause problems (according to
one write up about WMV). I would recommend that you put wmv on the
extensions block list and your problem is solved.

I would also recommend a grey-list or other mechanism.

--
Stephen J Smoogen.
CSIRT/Linux System Administrator

Gary Funck | 2 Feb 2006 06:50

RE: spams slipping by, because they bigger than the SA size cutoff


> From: Stephen J. Smoogen
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:22 PM
> 
> Well depending on how patched your system is.. and what application
> you are using for email you do not have to click on the wmv file. Just
> having some clients process the email can cause problems (according to
> one write up about WMV). I would recommend that you put wmv on the
> extensions block list and your problem is solved.

Good idea for .wmv files, but still doesn't address the correct action
for spam files that exceed the cutoff.

> 
> I would also recommend a grey-list or other mechanism.
> 

Yup, we do that, and it works well.


Gmane