d.henman | 1 Aug 2008 10:33
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Re: MH-E with Gnu Mailutils and Gmail


Douglas,
   as Bill said I use gnu mh, aka mu-mh.  I for the present use fetchmail to
download the mail from gmail.  I do not use imap however.

   I've been informed, since the gnu mailutilies (I believe the program is movemail" now can handle the
process on its own, both imap and pop mail.  I'be been indending to do it but haven't yet.  

   For me now, I do just this:  (but intend to use gnu mailutils' movemail later)
      (1) fetchmail to get mail into the host.. then in 
      (2) ~/.fetchmailrc file pipe mail to mu's mail.local program via a 
          sieve file, which one can add, some filtering.

For example in my ~/.fetchmailrc I have:
 mda "/usr/local/libexec/mail.local  -S /home/djh/.mailutils/gmail-incoming-filter.sv

The above is gnu mu's mail.local with its sieve filtering (-s filter_script.sv) capabiltiies, to acquire
and organize incoming mail from gmail.

Recently, however, I've been told that gnu mailutiles movemail can now handle pop3 ..
That is my next leasure project.

I haven't checked out on the imap features.

Do you really need imap and can gmail actually suport it.  Last I looked, it was pop3 with some kind of ssl....

Regards, 
   darel henman

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asterix | 1 Aug 2008 12:22
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posting messages from a laptop via smtp with tls

Today I solve this problem,

>but I cannot get it to work as a drop in replacement [which it should
>be] for sendmail; in my global mts.conf I have:

>mts: sendmail
>sendmail: /usr/local/bin/msmtp

This is right, to must compile nmh with --whit-nts=sendmail opt,
then you should say to nmh that you want use a msmtp.
To do this you write in ~/.mh_profile the follow line:

postproc: /usr/nmh/lib/spost

(check the path of spost programm, generally is in nmh/lib)

.. and now you can send mail with msmpt client

the problem is that: the post program send mail to your MTA, suppose that is a
demon, and is running on  your system like smtp, while spost send a mail in one
shost, running sendmail and command it to send the mail that its receive in pipe.

daniele

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Douglas Alan | 1 Aug 2008 20:29
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Re: MH-E with Gnu Mailutils and Gmail

d.henman <dhenman <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you really need imap and can gmail actually suport it.  Last I
> looked, it was pop3 with some kind of ssl....

Thanks for the info!

I was hoping that MH-E might someday support (via Mailutils) the use of
IMAP that IMAP was designed for: keeping the mail on the IMAP server so
that you can access all of your mail from any computer.

Currently I do use IMAP with MH-E, but via fetchmail, and I just use
IMAP like I'd use POP -- to download all the incoming mail.

Gmail *does* support IMAP and supports it for the cannonical IMAP
use-case.  E.g., users of Thunderbird will frequently use Gmail as their
IMAP mail store.

|>oug

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Bill Wohler | 18 Aug 2008 03:47
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MH-E 8.1 release notes

Here is a draft of the release notes for 8.1. Please comment if you
wish.

The older release notes are in emacs/etc/MH-E-NEWS if you want to
compare to previous releases.

One change I made was to exclude the email addresses from the
contributors (of which there were many this time--thank you!). I did it
more out of laziness than anything :-). On the other hand, the
contributors might prefer not to have their email addresses in a public
place. What do you think?

* Changes in MH-E 8.1

Version 8.1 fixes some issues with forwarding messages, respects the
MH environment variable, adds the abilities to use aliases with GPG
and show HTML even though it is discouraged. A new hook,
`mh-annotate-msg-hook', has been added.

** New Features in MH-E 8.1

*** Showing HTML When Text Is the Preferred Alternative

The `:' (`mh-show-preferred-alternative') function displays the
message with the default preferred alternative. This is as if
`mm-discouraged-alternatives' was set to nil (closes SF #1777321).

** New Variables in MH-E 8.1

*** mh-annotate-msg-hook
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Eric Gillespie | 20 Aug 2008 05:06

BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text

MH-E 8.0.3+cvs

MH-E compilation details:
 Byte compiled:		yes
 Gnus (compile-time):	Gnus v5.13
 Gnus (run-time):	Gnus v5.13

GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2008-08-09 on wundagore.diplodocus.org

nmh 1.3-dev
 mh-progs:	/usr/local/nmh/bin
 mh-lib:	/usr/local/nmh/etc
 mh-lib-progs:	/usr/local/nmh/lib

Linux wundagore.diplodocus.org 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

I've attached a message from launchpad.net.  The body is encoded
in quoted-printable, and it contains OpenPGP text.  MH-E offers
to decode it, but fails before asking for a passphrase.  After I
manually copied the text into gpg --decrypt and saw the same
behavior, I noticed the '=3D' at the end.  MH-E has no trouble
decoding other quoted-printable messages, so I guess this is a
bug in the interaction between these two features.

Hmm, actually, I see that MH-E isn't decoding the rest of the
body, either.  If I remove the OpenPGP block from a copy of this
message, MH-E then decodes it correctly.

Gnus is able to decrypt the message with no trouble, via nnmh:inbox.
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Bill Wohler | 20 Aug 2008 19:31
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Re: BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text

Sounds familiar. Is this related to the following SourceForge bug?

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1406898&group_id=1&atid=200001

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Eric Gillespie | 20 Aug 2008 21:46

Re: BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text

Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> writes:

> Sounds familiar. Is this related to the following SourceForge bug?
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1406898&group_id=1&atid=200001

Hmm, I don't see how.  Sourceforge didn't send me this mail,
launchpad.net did.  Anyway, the message is perfectly valid, and
properly encoded.  Gnus, mutt, and mhshow all decode it properly.
Only MH-E gets it wrong.

Thanks.

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Henrique Martins | 20 Aug 2008 22:02
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Re: BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text


> Anyway, the message is perfectly valid, and properly encoded.
> Gnus, mutt, and mhshow all decode it properly.  Only MH-E gets
> it wrong.

Your message came up on my mh-e system, I was asked for a
password, entered the wrong one, the system claimed it was
invalid, and showed me your message, a few mime parts, plus the
key.   What was the part that was supposed to be decoded
improperly?

I deleted your message, and can't see it in the archives at
SourceForge to check it out again ...

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Eric Gillespie | 20 Aug 2008 22:39

Re: BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text

Henrique Martins <mh-e-users-2008 <at> martins.cc> writes:

> Your message came up on my mh-e system, I was asked for a
> password, entered the wrong one, the system claimed it was
> invalid, and showed me your message, a few mime parts, plus the

Interesting, what version do you have?  I include my version info
again, since my original post seems not to be in the archive.

MH-E 8.0.3+cvs

MH-E compilation details:
 Byte compiled:		yes
 Gnus (compile-time):	Gnus v5.13
 Gnus (run-time):	Gnus v5.13

GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2008-08-09 on wundagore.diplodocus.org

nmh 1.3-dev
 mh-progs:	/usr/local/nmh/bin
 mh-lib:	/usr/local/nmh/etc
 mh-lib-progs:	/usr/local/nmh/lib

Linux wundagore.diplodocus.org 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

> key.   What was the part that was supposed to be decoded
> improperly?

Perhaps a picture is worth a thousand words.  Note the "=3D" in
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Bill Wohler | 20 Aug 2008 23:14
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Re: BUG in quoted-printable message with PGP-encrypted text

Eric Gillespie <epg <at> pretzelnet.org> wrote:

> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> writes:
> 
> > Sounds familiar. Is this related to the following SourceForge bug?
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1406898&group_id=1&atid=200001
> 
> Hmm, I don't see how.  Sourceforge didn't send me this mail,
> launchpad.net did.

I see, I saw SourceForge stuff, but that must have been from your MH-E
posting.

Just out of curiosity, how did you encrypt that message? Typically you
have to use the recipient's public key. Maybe you used a key without a
pass phrase? I noticed that any pass phrase works on the message.

By the way, we won't be able to do anything with the message you
forwarded since none of the MIME header fields were preserved. Can you
please forward/include the message with MIME?

Better yet, post a bug report and add the message as an attachment.
Thanks!

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