Re: Manual, 8.0, and incompatible changes

Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:

> In case folks haven't noticed, I am making a push to finish the manual
> update. We are planning on making a major MH-E release--8.0--to coincide
> with the completion of the new manual.

Hi Bill,

how far have you come with the manual yet? ...   It's just that I am
VERY curious ... 

greetings, ray

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Re: Manual, 8.0, and incompatible changes

ray <at> nabuli.de wrote:

> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:
> 
> > In case folks haven't noticed, I am making a push to finish the manual
> > update. We are planning on making a major MH-E release--8.0--to coincide
> > with the completion of the new manual.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> how far have you come with the manual yet? ...   It's just that I am
> VERY curious ... 

Thanks for your interest, Ray!

It's hard to say. Thirty days ago, I thought I had 30 days left, but now
that I'm here, it still looks like at least 30 more days . But, it's
moving along, and I'm committed to finishing it this time around. Soon!

I'm definitely going to send it out to mh-e-users for public review
before the release, so keep your eyes open for it.

One thing I hope you'll enjoy is that I'm syncing the online help
(docstrings) with the manual as well so that they'll be better too.

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Re: mhl-formfile -> mh-mhl-format-file

Mark D. Baushke <mdb <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> writes:
> 
> > In order to be consistent with mh-scan-format-file and to stay within
> > the mh- namespace, I'd like to rename mhl-formfile to mh-mhl-format-file.
> 
> Go for it.

Done.

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Re: mh-highlight-citation-p -> mh-highlight-citation-style

Peter S Galbraith <p.galbraith <at> globetrotter.net> wrote:

> Go for it Bill.  Thanks!
> 
> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:
> 
> > The Emacs Lisp coding conventions say:
> > 
> >    * If the purpose of a function is to tell you whether a certain
> >      condition is true or false, give the function a name that ends in
> >      `p'.  If the name is one word, add just `p'; if the name is
> >      multiple words, add `-p'.  Examples are `framep' and
> >      `frame-live-p'.
> > 
> > However, the option mh-highlight-citation-p is neither a function, nor
> > is it tested whether it is true or false (in which case it would have a
> > -flag suffix).
> > 
> > I therefore propose that we rename this option from
> > mh-highlight-citation-style (or mh-citation-highlighter or ...). Its
> > values will be "Gnus", "font-lock", "None".
> > 
> > I trust that most folks use the default and won't even notice .

Done. Hidden in that last massive check-in!

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Re: Manual, 8.0, and incompatible changes

Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your interest, Ray!
> 
> It's hard to say. Thirty days ago, I thought I had 30 days left, but now
> that I'm here, it still looks like at least 30 more days . But, it's
> moving along, and I'm committed to finishing it this time around. Soon!
> 
> I'm definitely going to send it out to mh-e-users for public review
> before the release, so keep your eyes open for it.
> 
> One thing I hope you'll enjoy is that I'm syncing the online help
> (docstrings) with the manual as well so that they'll be better too.

See, I think this program is such a wonderful tool even if it doesn't
everything that I want it to do - but I believe the latter is due to a
lack of knowledge on my side and that I therefor want to know more about
it's features ... 

But take your time - a good manual is way better than a quick one with
lacks 

ray

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Bill Wohler: Use of "optional argument" in docstring

Hey gang,

I just sent the following to emacs-devel. In case there isn't a
definitive outcome, please let me know if you have an opinion about the
points I raise in the letter. I'm happy to go with the consensus (so it
is as important to let me know if you agree as well as if you disagree),
but I want to be consistent in any case. Since I'm updating most of the
docstrings during this manual update, now is the time...

From: Bill Wohler <wohler <at> olgas.newt.com>
Subject: Use of "optional argument" in docstring
Date: 2005-12-02 21:31:38 GMT

Is there a convention regarding the use of explicitly using the word
"optional" when describing an optional argument in the docstring?

For example:

  (log arg &optional base)

  Return the natural logarithm of ARG.
  If second optional argument BASE is given, return log arg using that base.
            ^^^^^^^^

how to reply with mh-e when using gnus

I use GNUS to read mailing lists from www.gmane.org.

When I reply privately, I wind up using GNUS rather than mh-e.
While I realize that a large subset is the same, I'd rather use mh-e, and
having my normal +outgoing, etc. Any clue how to make this happen?

Also, I've noticed that my highlight-to-click-on-link stuff is broken with
mh-e. I don't have a clue what I broke.  I notice it still works with GNUS,
and still does what I want (xterm -e lynx&).

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Re: Dropping "index" from mh-index-new-messages-folders and mh-index-ticked-messages-folders

Jeffrey C Honig <jch <at> honig.net> wrote:

> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:
> 
> > Since these options are used in the "F n" and "F '" commands which are
> > described in the Folders node rather than in the Searching node, I'd
> > like to move them from the mh-index customization group to the mh-folder
> > customization group. Similarly, from a user's point of view, they don't
> > have anything to do with our searching code, so I'd also like to make
> > the following renamings:
> > 
> >   mh-index-new-messages-folders     -> mh-new-messages-folders
> >   mh-index-ticked-messages-folders  -> mh-ticked-messages-folders
> > 
> > Please let me know if you have any objections.
> 
> Go for it!

Done. Those of you following CVS MH-E will have to edit these options in
your custom-set-variables stanza. 

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"SourceForge.net": [ mh-e-Feature Requests-831278 ] Improve security of mh-fetch-x-image-url

FYI...

From: SourceForge.net <noreply <at> sourceforge.net>
Subject: [ mh-e-Feature Requests-831278 ] Improve security of mh-fetch-x-image-url
Date: 2005-12-05 01:36:31 GMT

Feature Requests item #831278, was opened at 2003-10-27 12:15
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by wohler
You can respond by visiting: 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=363357&aid=831278&group_id=13357

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Category: General
>Group: CVS
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 7
Submitted By: Bill Wohler (wohler)
>Assigned to: Bill Wohler (wohler)
Summary: Improve security of mh-fetch-x-image-url

Re: mh-process-commands-after-function?

Mark D. Baushke <mdb <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> writes:
> 
> > The precedent is not to include the buffer name
> > in the hook so let's drop the mh-folder prefix.
> > The one other exception I see is
> > mh-letter-insert-signature-hook. I think I'll
> > take this opportunity to rename that to
> > mh-insert-signature-hook.

Done. If you have customized mh-letter-insert-signature-hook, don't
forget to drop the -letter the next time you grab CVS MH-E.

> > Given my observation of functions versus hooks,
> > I'm thinking that your proposed functions should
> > really be hooks. I also think
> > mh-before-commands-processed-hook and
> > mh-after-commands-processed-hook reads better
> > than mh-process-commands-before-hook and
> > mh-process-commands-after-hook (what do others
> > think?).
> 
> Your naming seems reasonable.

If my suggestions work for you, Stephen, please go for it.

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