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Randy Primeaux | 10 Jul 2002 19:57

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Hi,
   How do I execute "n" (mh-next-undeleted-msg) without "x"
   (mh-execute-commands) in mh-e 6.1?

I don't want the mark updated when I read certain large folders, until I
type "x".

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randy <at> cloudfactory.org
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Peter Davis | 10 Jul 2002 20:16
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nmh and mh-e on Windows: *almost* there

My apologies to anyone following comp.mail.mh-e, where I also reported 
these results.

With a lot of help from Satyaki Das, Earl Hood and others, I now *sort
of* have nmh and mh-e working on Windows.  The first hurdle was
getting a Win32 or Cygwin port of nmh to begin with.  I'm not sure if
there are other ports out there, but I got one from Earl Hood.  Has
this been officially merged with nmh sources in cvs yet?

I'm using a Win32 version of XEmacs 21.4 patch 6, along with Cygwin
versions of the nmh executables.  Moreover, I'm using a cvs version of
mh-e, plus a few modules updated by Satyaki Das.  In other words, it's
pretty much of a hodge-podge.  If I ever get everything working, the
first thing I'll do is burn a CD with all the relevant parts.
Meanwhile, I'll have to try to track the nmh and mh-e cvs
repositories.

Remaining problems:

1) The cvs version of mh-e I'm using tries to figure out the values of
    mh-progs and mh-lib itself.  The previous (released?) version let
    me set these myself.  Now, mh-e barfs when I try to reply or
    compose a draft, because it can't find components.  I've tried
    explicitly redefining mh-lib after loading all the mh stuff, and
    that *does* allow components to be found.  I'm not sure if that
    redefinition gets clobbered later though.

2) mh-e can't seem to figure out where my drafts are when I do manage
    to edit them, so sending always fails.  It comes up with some
    horrendous path like /cygdrive/d/home/d:/HOME/Mail/drafts, as if
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Peter S Galbraith | 11 Jul 2002 18:55
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Re: no mark update

Randy Primeaux <randy <at> cloudfactory.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>    How do I execute "n" (mh-next-undeleted-msg) without "x"
>    (mh-execute-commands) in mh-e 6.1?
> 
> I don't want the mark updated when I read certain large folders, until I
> type "x".

I'm sorry but I don't understand the question.

[CC'ed to mh-e-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net in case other developers
 aren't subscribed to -user and know the answer.]

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Peter S Galbraith | 11 Jul 2002 19:11
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Re: nmh and mh-e on Windows: *almost* there

Peter Davis <pd <at> world.std.com> wrote on mh-e-users:

> My apologies to anyone following comp.mail.mh-e, where I also reported 
> these results.

I don't follow usenet.  Your post is welcome here.

> With a lot of help from Satyaki Das, Earl Hood and others, I now *sort
> of* have nmh and mh-e working on Windows.  The first hurdle was
> getting a Win32 or Cygwin port of nmh to begin with.  I'm not sure if
> there are other ports out there, but I got one from Earl Hood.  Has
> this been officially merged with nmh sources in cvs yet?
> 
> I'm using a Win32 version of XEmacs 21.4 patch 6, along with Cygwin
> versions of the nmh executables.  Moreover, I'm using a cvs version of
> mh-e, plus a few modules updated by Satyaki Das.  In other words, it's
> pretty much of a hodge-podge.  If I ever get everything working, the
> first thing I'll do is burn a CD with all the relevant parts.
> Meanwhile, I'll have to try to track the nmh and mh-e cvs
> repositories.
> 
> Remaining problems:
> 
> 1) The cvs version of mh-e I'm using tries to figure out the values of
>     mh-progs and mh-lib itself.  The previous (released?) version let
>     me set these myself.  Now, mh-e barfs when I try to reply or
>     compose a draft, because it can't find components.  I've tried
>     explicitly redefining mh-lib after loading all the mh stuff, and
>     that *does* allow components to be found.  I'm not sure if that
>     redefinition gets clobbered later though.
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Randy Primeaux | 11 Jul 2002 19:46

Re: no mark update

Peter,
   I just upgraded from mh-e 5.0.2 to 6.1.  In 5, I could visit a folder
   and read messages without changing the current message sequence.  I
   usually read a few messages, or many, then use 'x'
   (mh-execute-commands) to update the current message before I leave
   the folder.

Most folders I read sequentially.  But, some folders contain very busy
lists where I prefer to skip ahead and read a few messages, without
changing my current message (and the mh-note-cur mark), thus preserving
my "bookmark".  Later I can visit the folder again and continue reading
sequentially from the earlier current message.

In 6, I no longer have this feature, as 'n' (mh-next-undeleted-msg)
seems to update the current message sequence in .mh_sequences every time.
The message at the cursor becomes current.  Probably helpfull to some,
yet annoying to me.

Peter S Galbraith writes:
> Randy Primeaux <randy <at> cloudfactory.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >    How do I execute "n" (mh-next-undeleted-msg) without "x"
> >    (mh-execute-commands) in mh-e 6.1?
> > 
> > I don't want the mark updated when I read certain large folders, until I
> > type "x".
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't understand the question.
>
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Peter S Galbraith | 11 Jul 2002 20:03
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Re: no mark update

Randy Primeaux <randy <at> cloudfactory.org> wrote:

> Peter,
>    I just upgraded from mh-e 5.0.2 to 6.1.  In 5, I could visit a folder
>    and read messages without changing the current message sequence.  I
>    usually read a few messages, or many, then use 'x'
>    (mh-execute-commands) to update the current message before I leave
>    the folder.
> 
> Most folders I read sequentially.  But, some folders contain very busy
> lists where I prefer to skip ahead and read a few messages, without
> changing my current message (and the mh-note-cur mark), thus preserving
> my "bookmark".  Later I can visit the folder again and continue reading
> sequentially from the earlier current message.
> 
> In 6, I no longer have this feature, as 'n' (mh-next-undeleted-msg)
> seems to update the current message sequence in .mh_sequences every time.
> The message at the cursor becomes current.  Probably helpfull to some,
> yet annoying to me.

Does setting the following to nil help?

 M-x customize-variable [RET] mh-update-sequences-after-mh-show [RET]

or simply (setq mh-update-sequences-after-mh-show nil)

If not, when should the sequence be updated and when should it not be
updated?

Peter
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Randy Primeaux | 11 Jul 2002 20:12

Re: no mark update

Peter,
Yes, that was the customization I was looking for.  Thank you very much.

I read through the customize pages last week, and set several of them,
but overlooked this one.

Peter S Galbraith writes:
>
> Does setting the following to nil help?
> 
>  M-x customize-variable [RET] mh-update-sequences-after-mh-show [RET]
> 
> or simply (setq mh-update-sequences-after-mh-show nil)
> 
> If not, when should the sequence be updated and when should it not be
> updated?

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Peter S Galbraith | 11 Jul 2002 20:19
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Re: no mark update

Randy Primeaux <randy <at> cloudfactory.org> wrote:

> Peter,
> Yes, that was the customization I was looking for.  Thank you very much.
> 
> I read through the customize pages last week, and set several of them,
> but overlooked this one.

I'm glad it now works as you like it.

Peter
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