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Satyaki Das | 11 Mar 2002 02:48
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Nicer display of MIME messages

Recently I modified one of the functions used by mh-e to
display messages to use MML, the mime display engine of GNUS.
This makes mh-e really pretty. It does inline images in
Emacs 21, button-like display of attachments, PGP/MIME
support, X-Face etc.

It is quite easy to use the mime composition part by binding
some of the keys to use MML functions. The mime handling is
a XML-like version of mhn/mhbuild. The only advantage over
mhn is that it does PGP/MIME out of the box. Some keybindings
for mime composition is added in the .emacs snippet below.

Now that you are convinced that this is all good, here are
some potential problems:
  1. You need a CVS version of gnus, the later the better.

  2. I couldn't get mailcrypt to work for PGP support. Mailcrypt
     works fine by itself. But the GNUS code doesn't work
     with it (or more likely I am not setting things up right).
     The contrib directory of GNUS has a gpg.el which works for
     me.

  3. I don't understand the MML code very well. So I was leaking
     buffers like crazy. I fixed that by advising generate-new-buffer
     but I am sure there has to be a better way to do this.

Anyway, put mh-ext.el somewhere in your load-path put the
following in your .emacs to give it a spin. I have been using
this for about a week now without problems.
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Olivier Lecarme | 15 Mar 2002 09:17
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Re: MH/EXMH usage: shrinking or growing? (fwd)

Here follows a message explaining some complaints about mh-e of a heavy
user of MH and Exmh. Maybe some of of his complaints are already
satisfied by the current version of mh-e, maybe others could be usefully
taken in consideration by the developers?

------- Forwarded Message

Date:    Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:21:33 -0800
From:    J C Lawrence <claw <at> kanga.nu>
To:      exmh-users <at> redhat.com
Subject: Re: MH/EXMH usage: shrinking or growing? 

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:02:21 +0100 
Olivier Lecarme <ol <at> i3s.unice.fr> wrote:

> I must say I don't understand the current thread of people
> searching desperately for ways of using MH on a tty or telnet
> connection. I'm using daily Emacs with mh-e in such a situation,
> while I'm using Exmh when I'm on an X display.

My complaints against MH-E:

  1) mh-list-folders only shows the top level folders.  I have a
  fairly deep/narrow tree of folders (86 folders total, only 8 at
  the top level).  Working thru that tree, especially to see where
  unread mail is, is an excessive pain.  

  2) Folder navigation sucks.  Lack of a folder overview is painful.
  Lack of folder overview navigation is more painful.
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Bill Wohler | 20 Mar 2002 07:17
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Re: MH/EXMH usage: shrinking or growing? (fwd)

> From:    J C Lawrence <claw <at> kanga.nu>

>   1) mh-list-folders only shows the top level folders.  I have a
>   fairly deep/narrow tree of folders (86 folders total, only 8 at
>   the top level).  Working thru that tree, especially to see where
>   unread mail is, is an excessive pain.  

  M-x customize-variable RET mh-recursive-folders RET

>   2) Folder navigation sucks.  Lack of a folder overview is painful.
>   Lack of folder overview navigation is more painful.  
> 
>     ObNote: Please don't use the MH folders command for folder
>     scanning -- use the exmh folders cache.  The folders command
>     takes almost 6 minutes on my system to compleat (Dual P3-500).
>     Conversely, flist under exmh takes less than 2 seconds.

  I'd appreciate it if you added your 2 cents to:

    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=503727&group_id=13357&atid=363357

  Fast is good.

>   3) It keeps screwing with my scanfile.  The basic result is that
>   the number field gets partially overwritten with spaces and "+"
>   characters resulting in that message being unreadable.  rescanning
>   the folder doesn't fix.  Manually deleting the scanfile often (not
>   always) fixes.
>
>   4) MH-E doesn't seem to use my scancomps.
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Peter S Galbraith | 27 Mar 2002 02:52
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mh-e Debian package

A couple of days ago, I uploaded a new version of the mh-e package to
Debian.  It's a current CVS snapshot.

 Package: mh-e
 Section: mail
 Installed-Size: 564
 Maintainer: Peter S Galbraith <psg <at> debian.org>
 Version: 6.0.+cvs.20020325-1
 Depends: emacs20 | emacsen, nmh
 Recommends: mimedecode
 Description: the GNU Emacs front end for MH and nmh mail user agents.
  This is likely a more recent version of mh-e than the one packaged with
  the flavor of Emacs you use.  It also includes latest version of Info
  format documentation as well as contributed files that are
  not distributed with GNU Emacs:
   mh-alias.el - MH mail alias expansion and substitution.
   mh-frame.el - Open mh-e in a separate frame.
  .
  The mh-e web page is http://mh-e.sourceforge.net/

See http://packages.debian.org/mh-e

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