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Henrique Martins | 10 May 2013 03:48
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mh-refile-msg vs mh-thread-refile


Seems that
  mh-refile-msg
sets the variables
  mh-last-destination
and
  mh-last-destination-folder
to be used in future refiles, but
  mh-thread-refile
does not sets those thus things can get a bit confusing if
one does a few of each in succession.

Shouldn't the behavior be identical?

-- Henrique

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Henrique Martins | 24 Apr 2013 05:49
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/etc/nmh/components not parsed


I created a brand new user on my system (Fedora 18), no
customization files whatsoever.

Logged on as that user, ran install-mh, accepted the defaults.

Ran "xemacs -nw -vanilla" and once in xemacs invoked "M-x
mh-smail".

The resulting draft is a copy /etc/nmh/components, not expanded
at all, which would be a bit puzzling to a new user, to say the
least.

Read the manual through the mh-smail invocation and if I was a
new user I wouldn't know what to do then, which is?

-- Henrique

Note:
  Default mh-e on F18 is 7.4.2, but the same happens with
  8.5. if I move my components file away.

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Greg Minshall | 18 Apr 2013 02:43
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face for messages for which i'm on the cc list

hi.  i've always been curious/slightly miffed that i get a visual
notification (a blue versus a black face (?) in my +inbox folder
listing) when i'm on the To: list of a received e-mail, but not when i'm
on the cc: list.

this has recently gotten more urgent (as the amount of spam i'm dealing
with has increased greatly over the past few weeks).  tonight i looked
at this.  it seems that the language mh-format provides requires one to
enter the query for cc: more than once.

if mh-scan-format-nmh has the following format:

      (concat
       "%4(msg)"
       "%<(cur)+%| %>"
       "%<{replied}-"
       "%?(nonnull(comp{to}))%<(mymbox{to})t"
 ; my addition (after splitting the above line)
       "%?(nonnull(comp{cc}))%<(mymbox{cc})c%>"
       "%>"
       "%?(nonnull(comp{cc}))%<(mymbox{cc})c%>"
       "%?(nonnull(comp{bcc}))%<(mymbox{bcc})b%>"
       "%?(nonnull(comp{newsgroups}))n%>"
       "%<(zero) %>"
       "%02(mon{date})/%02(mday{date})%<{date} %|*%>"
       "%<(mymbox{from})%<{to}To:%14(decode(friendly{to}))%>%>"
       "%<(zero)%17(decode(friendly{from}))%>  "
       "%(decode{subject})%<{body}<<%{body}%>")

one sees a "c" in the right place.  (otherwise, i think one wouldn't see
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d.henman | 5 Apr 2013 11:17
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method of autosaving sent mail


What is the current recommended method for setting up MH-E for automatically save 
a copy of outgoing mail?

I found the below, but I recal seeing another method  to accoplish this but can't find it yet.  If someone would
give me a reference or actual example I'd appreciate

darel
 --

What I did fid was:
     a.) this proposal to use the dcc header field.
         (defcustom mh-insert-dcc-address nil 
                        "Append this string as a dcc field to the header.
                         t means insert the output from function `user-login-name'."
			 :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't insert dcc" nil)
			 (const :tag "Use user-login-name" t)
			 (string :tag "dcc address"))group 'mh-compose)

      (defun mh-insert-dcc () "Insert dcc field if `mh-insert-dcc-address' is non-nil."
      (save-excursion   (when (and mh-insert-dcc-address
      (not (mh-goto-header-field "dcc:")))   (mh-goto-header-end 0)
      (if (stringp mh-insert-dcc-address)    (insert "dcc: " mh-insert-dcc-address "\n")
      (insert "dcc: " (user-login-name) "\n")))))

   # And edit 'mh-compose-and-send-mail , adding  "(pop-to-buffer draft):" after
   (if mh-insert-dcc-address (mh-insert-dcc))

OR manually for each send one would have to use C-c C-f C-d  to use the dcc field.
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Greg Minshall | 4 Apr 2013 00:14
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spam filtering -- false positives

hi, all.

i'm my own spam filter.  (there's nothing between me and the internet;
it's pretty interesting to see new spam "technologies"/"techniques" pop
up, play out, die off.)

up till now, i delete spam messages (using "d" or "k").

but, i occasionally kill the wrong message.

so, since the amount of storage consumed by spam is fairly small, i'd
like to remap "d" and "k" to do refiles to a "+spam" folder instead.

what would be nice would be something that allowed me to continue to see
the same (emacs calls this) "face" for "d"/"k" messages versus "o"/"^"
messages.

is there any obvious way of approaching this?

cheers, Greg

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Sergey Poznyakoff | 31 Mar 2013 11:27
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Re: unexpected error mesage

Hello,

I'm not subscribed to the list, but I've been forwarded some messages,
which I feel I should answer.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 d.henman <dhenman <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Same here the " "scan: bad message list `unseen'"  only happens on startup.

That's typical to Mailutils MH installations.  In Mailutils there are no
built-in sequences, in particular there is no "unseen" sequence (it does
support the %(unseen) format specification, though). You will get this
message if you run `scan [options...] unseen' on the command line, for
example. Apparently this is what MH-E does.

Note to MH-E developers: I will add the support for "unseen" sequence
before releasing MU 3.0, so there is no need to account for this
strangeness in MH-E code.

> Plus another anomaly I found occurs when I execute a 'k' kill messages with the same subject.  Here is the
error messgages:
> ----
>  Errors when executing: mark +inbox -delete -sequence subject all
> mark: message 24 does not exist

These too could be Mailutils-specific. I think so because Mailutils is
rather picky about error conditions, and often reports such conditions
that the traditional MH turns a deaf ear to. This particular message
would be emitted, for example, if the sequence "subject" contained
the sequence number 24, but that message had been deleted without removing
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Bill Wohler | 31 Mar 2013 21:48
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Re: unexpected error mesage

d.henman <dhenman <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Notes inline below:
> 
> Bill Wohler <wohler <at> newt.com> wrote:
> > d.henman <dhenman <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Plus another anomaly I found occurs when I execute a 'k' kill messages with the same subject.  Here is the
error messgages:
> > > ----
> > >  Errors when executing: mark +inbox -delete -sequence subject all
> > > mark: message 24 does not exist

I only get this error when trying to add a bogus message to a sequence:

    $ mark +tmp -add -sequence foo 24
    mark: message 24 doesn't exist

I could not reproduce your error with nmh. Since I couldn't add 24 with
mark, I edited +tmp/.mh_sequences and added a sequence with a bogus
message number ("foo: 24"). This is interesting:

    $ mark +tmp -list
    cur: 
    pseq: 1-10
    foo: 

MH notices that the 24 is bogus and doesn't list it. Then I issued
essentially the same command that as you showed below:

    $ mark +tmp -delete -sequence foo all
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Zeus Panchenko | 26 Mar 2013 11:47
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reply from identity with gpg-sign


hi,

when I am replying to the message with identity for which it is set
gpg-sign, tag <#secure ...> appears *after* the original message
quotation and I have to move it to the beginning of the message

othervise the message is sent without signing and the tag appears in the
message body as is

is it intended behaviour?

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d.henman | 25 Mar 2013 10:42
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unexpected error mesage


MH-E Version 8.3.1
Platform:  Cygwin

#1 The anamoly is that when ever I start up MH-E with M-x mh-rmail I get the following message:
    scan: bad message list `unseen'

Otherwise MH-E operates fine.  It's possible a config file or find in +inbox is corrupt.
My ../inbox/.mh_sequences  file contains:

	subject: 16-18
	cur:  1

Just wondering if anyone is seeing this anomaly as well???

#2  Whoever left the comment on line 221 in ../mh-folder.el,
" ;; Save the "b" binding for a future `back'. Maybe?"  was very farsighted.

Using b here is exactly how the univeriste meant it to be.  How else can on sip tea with one hand and view
digests, keeping eyes on the text without having to search or move hands lookinf for a [BCKSP] or [DEL] key.

Following, the natural way, I tried to fix this shortcoming in my .emacs file this way:

  (define-key mh-folder-mode-map "b" 'mh-page-digest-backwards)

but get this error on start up:
  "Symbol's value as variable is void: mh-folder-mode-map"

But after emacs is up and running (possibly after invoking MH-E once) I can
evaluate  (define-key mh-folder-mode-map "b" 'mh-page-digest-backwards) and it does what I want it to.
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covici | 4 Mar 2013 18:49

getting pgp to work

I am having problems getting pgp to work at all with mh-e.  I am using
8.3 with emacs  23.4.2.

I am using this in a text console.  If I try to signn  the message, it
just hangs when I try to send it and looking at the processes, it has
gpg-agent and pinentry which I have linked to the curses version.  When
receiving messages, it always says undecided for the pgp part.

Is this possible at all and if so what can I do?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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Zeus Panchenko | 4 Mar 2013 11:12
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is it possible to "identity + gpg sign" ?

hi all,

may somebody help with this, please?

can I somehow to gpg sign outgoing messages according to the identity I
use?

if not, than can I sign all my outgouing messages?

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