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Mark Sapiro | 1 Jul 2012 16:27
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Re: Mailman / Postfix new list issue

Dan Offord wrote:
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>I'm having an issue with any new lists created in Mailman, it appears
>to be forcing each mailing lists host_name to: multiplay.co.uk
>
>So any welcome emails specifically states:
>
>"To post to this list, send your message to:
>
> newlist <at> multiplay.co.uk"
>
>Where the host/domain for Mailman is set to lists.multiplay.co.uk
>
>My mm_cfg.py is at http://pastie.org/4178388

The relevant lines of which are:

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'
add_virtualhost('lists.multiplay.co.uk')
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'
host_name = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'

The assignment to host_name in mm_cfg.py does nothing useful. remove it.

add_virtualhost() takes one or two arguments and creates a mapping from
a url host (web host) to an email host. If the email host argument is
ommitted, it is determined by stripping everything up to the first dot
'.' from the url host argument. This is documented in Defaults.py

# ...  If optional emailhost is
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David Andrews | 1 Jul 2012 21:12
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Duplicate Messages

I am getting duplicate messages once a day, the 8:00 a.m. messages 
sent out by every list telling of what messages pending.  My users 
also get two copies of the password reminder once a month.  And ... 
not sure if it is related, but probably, I get two copies of a 
message each morning at 8:00 a.m. from the "Mailman" list telling of 
pending messages.  You can't get at this list to eliminate, so not 
sure what is going on.

Thanks in advance!

Dave

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Barry S, Finkel | 1 Jul 2012 22:31
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Re: Duplicate Messages

On 7/1/2012 2:12 PM, David Andrews wrote:
> I am getting duplicate messages once a day, the 8:00 a.m. messages 
> sent out by every list telling of what messages pending.  My users 
> also get two copies of the password reminder once a month.  And ... 
> not sure if it is related, but probably, I get two copies of a message 
> each morning at 8:00 a.m. from the "Mailman" list telling of pending 
> messages.  You can't get at this list to eliminate, so not sure what 
> is going on.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Dave
>

It sound like you have two crontab entries for some Mailman crons, or 
you have two
crontabs - one in the old style as root and one in the new style as mailman.
--Barry Finkel

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Dan Offord | 2 Jul 2012 07:12
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Re: Mailman / Postfix new list issue

On 1 July 2012 15:27, Mark Sapiro <mark <at> msapiro.net> wrote:
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> The relevant lines of which are:
>
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'
> add_virtualhost('lists.multiplay.co.uk')
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'
> host_name = 'lists.multiplay.co.uk'
>
> The assignment to host_name in mm_cfg.py does nothing useful. remove it.
>
> add_virtualhost() takes one or two arguments and creates a mapping from
> a url host (web host) to an email host. If the email host argument is
> ommitted, it is determined by stripping everything up to the first dot
> '.' from the url host argument. This is documented in Defaults.py
>
> # ...  If optional emailhost is
> # omitted it defaults to urlhost with the first name stripped off, e.g.
> #
> # add_virtualhost('www.dom.ain')
> # VIRTUAL_HOST['www.dom.ain']
> # ==> 'dom.ain'
>
> Thus,
>
> add_virtualhost('lists.multiplay.co.uk')
>
> is the same as
>
> add_virtualhost('lists.multiplay.co.uk', 'multiplay.co.uk')
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Geoff Shang | 2 Jul 2012 17:02

Help! How to quell list address in personalised messages

Hi,

A bit urgent.

I thought I'd turn on personalisation for an announce list I'm putting 
together, in order to have the person's address in the To field instead of 
the list address.  The box will only be used for this list and messages 
wil only go out about once a month, so performance isn't an issue.

But when I turned on full personalisation and got my Email address in the 
To field, the list address got sent in the Cc field.

Is there any way I can stop this?   I want to keep people from trying to 
post to the list.  I will close other doors as well but there's really no 
need for people to see the list address.

Geoff.

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Mark Sapiro | 2 Jul 2012 17:16
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Re: Help! How to quell list address in personalised messages

On 7/2/2012 8:02 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
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> But when I turned on full personalisation and got my Email address in
> the To field, the list address got sent in the Cc field.
> 
> Is there any way I can stop this?   I want to keep people from trying to
> post to the list.  I will close other doors as well but there's really
> no need for people to see the list address.

This is intentional and by design to facilitate people replying to the
list even with full personalization.

If you don't want this, you need to modify
Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py to not add the list posting address to
Cc: or add a custom handler following CookHeaders to remove it.

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Geoff Shang | 2 Jul 2012 17:42

Re: Help! How to quell list address in personalised messages

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> This is intentional and by design to facilitate people replying to the
> list even with full personalization.

Yes but for an announcement-type list you don't want this.

> If you don't want this, you need to modify
> Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py to not add the list posting address to
> Cc: or add a custom handler following CookHeaders to remove it.

Thanks very much.  I just found the same advice you wrote two years ago at 
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-April/069241.html

Lets see if I can do this without serious breakage.

Geoff.

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Mark Sapiro | 2 Jul 2012 19:15
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Re: Help! How to quell list address in personalised messages

Geoff Shang <geoff <at> QuiteLikely.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Mark Sapiro wrote:
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>Lets see if I can do this without serious breakage.
>
>Geoff.

If you need help, let me know.

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Geoff Shang | 2 Jul 2012 19:26

Re: Help! How to quell list address in personalised messages

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> If you need help, let me know.

Think I got it.  Commenting out the block at line 161 (Mailman 2.1.13) 
seems to have done the trick.

Thanks again,
Geoff.

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jdd | 2 Jul 2012 20:10
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remainder post bounce

I have a curious situation. I could fix it, so there is no hurry to 
find a better solution, but I wonder where I failed :-).

I have a domain name (culte.org) that hold a mailman mailing lists server.

Under this domain, there is a (virtual) network. The real server is 
savage-reborn.culte.org

When mailman send the messages to the lists, no problem at all, the 
return path is <list-name> <at> culte.org

but when mailman send the monthly reminder, the return path is 
<listname> <at> savage-reborn.culte.org.

some recipients do not like to have the extra "savage-reborn" part and 
refuse the mail.

I don't know where I could change this without disturbing the server's 
working.

The MTA is postfix.

I could solve the problem adding savage-reborn in culte.org zone 
definitions.

any idea?

thanks
jd
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