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Mark Sapiro | 1 Jun 2012 04:11
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Re: Pending messages

On 5/31/2012 8:29 AM, Tomislav Luetić wrote:
> Not to my knowledge, but the server itself wasn't set up by me. I got
> handed somebody else's mess.
> a couple more things that might help; permissions check out, there was
> no upgrading or moving involved, if I try to admin a message from a
> single message view I get send back to pending requests overview page.
> and wouldn't URL redirect screw up all changes I try to make? I can
> normally change settings for lists, it's just the messages that are
> misbehaving.

A redirect may or may not affect the admin as well as the admindb
interface. It depends on the specifics of the web server configuration.

You need to do two things:

1) View the source of an admindb page and note the action= URL in the
form tag. If it is a relative URL, prepend the initial portion of the
URL in the browser's address bar to get an absolute URL.

2) Look at the web server's configuration and figure out what it does to
process that URL and if it just does the POST or if it redirects or
rewrites it somehow.

Somebody else's mess or not, someone is going to have to figure out what
the web server is doing with these requests.

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Jun 2012 08:59
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Re: Personalization issue

On 5/31/2012 2:49 PM, wilby wrote:
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> 1. There must be a way to get the footer to always show in the message, is
> there?

See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9>.

> 2. Maybe there is an easier way to get the "delivered_to" info to appear
> somewhere in my messages.

If you can get the ISP to enable VERP delivery, the address sent to is
in the envelope sender and the Sender: and Errors-To: headers of the
message in the form <LISTNAME-bounces+user=users.domain <at> example.com>.

> 3. Maybe there is an entirely better way to do what I need, Help!

The Received: headers of the message may contain something like

Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [82.94.164.166])
	(using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by sbh16.songbird.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792686900C6
	for <mark <at> msapiro.net>; Thu, 31 May 2012 23:43:50 -0700 (PDT)

where the "for <mark <at> msapiro.net>" indicates the recipient. This is
dependent on the MTAs that the message passes through between Mailman
and the recipient.

> Looking further, I see that if the email from the MM server I use is "text"
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wilby | 1 Jun 2012 22:38
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Re: Personalization issue


Thank you for the information.  Wilby

On 5/31/2012 2:49 PM, wilby wrote:
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> 1. There must be a way to get the footer to always show in the message, is
> there?

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Mehdi Mortezai | 1 Jun 2012 22:01
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Help: how to extract a list's description using a bash or Python script (Mailman version 2.1.9)

Hello All,

I am new to your the Mailman Users' group. I manage Mailman 2.1.9 (a VM
Red Hat Enterprise 5 system) for my organization but I am new to Mailman
and don't know much about Python scripting.

I need to generate a monthly report on all my mailing lists that includes
each list's name, description, admin, and members.  I have come up with a
bash script using some Python scripts for Mailman that generates most of
the reporting but could not find a script or a way to extract a list's
description.

Any hint/help for pointing out how to extract the description of any list
via a bash script will be very much appreciated.

Thanks very much for your input.

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Mark Sapiro | 2 Jun 2012 08:20
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Re: Help: how to extract a list's description using abash or Python script (Mailman version 2.1.9)

Mehdi Mortezai wrote:
>
>I need to generate a monthly report on all my mailing lists that includes
>each list's name, description, admin, and members.  I have come up with a
>bash script using some Python scripts for Mailman that generates most of
>the reporting but could not find a script or a way to extract a list's
>description.

Mailman's bin/list_lists produces a list of all the installations list
names and descriptions.

>Any hint/help for pointing out how to extract the description of any list
>via a bash script will be very much appreciated.

#!/bin/bash
# assume $1 is the list name
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists | grep -i " $1 " |\
 sed -r "s/\s*\S+ - //"

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H | 3 Jun 2012 08:14
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More missing files from installation


Further to my previous mail, the data/sitelist.cfg which is supposed to
have a list template, cannot be found either. Neither the installation
directory nor the other directories have a file like that. I used GREP
to search for it, not there. The manual does not explain how to get it.

Anybody having any tips here? 

H.
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H | 3 Jun 2012 08:09
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looking for correct doc for configure


All, 

Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct
documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1

After unpacking that package, there is supposed to be configure script
which is not there, or, I have to create it but it is not explained how.
Cannot find any instruction where to find or how to create configure.

Tried to install via YUM, but then, the directory arrangement is
different and the manual does not take that into account. 

Also, the manual in 6.3.2. describes a contrib directory in the package,
which is not there either. 

Any tips here?

H.
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H | 3 Jun 2012 08:59
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A low level failure?


While trying to run the 'create' script from the webbrowser after
configuring as much as possible, and spending all morning on it: 

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We're sorry, we hit a bug!
 Mailman experienced a very low level failure and could not even
generate a useful traceback for you. Please report this to the Mailman
administrator at this site.
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There you go. I think I will quit at this point. Enough wasting time. 

H.

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Larry Stone | 3 Jun 2012 21:16

Re: looking for correct doc for configure


On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote:

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> All, 
> 
> Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct
> documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1

MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet. 3.0.0b1 is the first beta release of the
largely re-architected Mailman 3. Stick to the latest Mailman 2.1 production release (2.1.14) which is
well documented, debugged, and supported.

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Mark Sapiro | 4 Jun 2012 03:43
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Re: More missing files from installation

H <harewood <at> xs4all.nl> wrote:
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>Further to my previous mail, the data/sitelist.cfg which is supposed to
>have a list template, cannot be found either. Neither the installation
>directory nor the other directories have a file like that. I used GREP
>to search for it, not there. The manual does not explain how to get it.

I think you're reading Mailman 2.1 documentation after downloading
Mailman 3. data/sitelist.cfg is a Mailman 2.1 file. It doesn't exist
in Mailman 3.

As Larry Stone said, if your goal is just a working Mailman
installation, either install a vendor package via Yum or whatever and
follow its docs, or download and install Mailman 2.1.15rc1 from
<https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1> following the manual in the
tarball or at <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html>.

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