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wilby | 1 Oct 2010 03:22
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Mailman 2.1.12 can't accept email from Thunerbird 3.1.4 help!


For some reason a very recent update to Thunderbird 3.1.4 email has suddenly
stopped the Mailman 2.1.12 account, that I administer, from accepting my
messages.

I can send to this Mailman account from non-Tbird email software.

Help needed badly.

Thanks, Wilby

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Oct 2010 04:02
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Re: Digest options as email attachments

Danny hendrawan wrote:
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>I'd like to have my members list who choose to receive a digest mail to 
>receive similar to the digest of this list i.e. with summary page and 
>attachment emails for each topic.
>
>I looked at 'digest options' but cannot find anything to enable this option. 
>Where can I set it up?

What you want is called a MIME format digest. This is not a list
option. it is a "by member" option. You can set the default for new
members by setting Digest options -> mime_is_default_digest to MIME,
but for existing members you either need to uncheck the member's
'plain' box on Membership Management... -> Membership List or the
member has to select MIME digests on her member options page.

Note that the plain/MIME setting only affects digests and is irrelevant
for non-digest members.

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Oct 2010 04:07
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Re: Mailman 2.1.12 can't accept email from Thunerbird3.1.4 help!

wilby wrote:
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>For some reason a very recent update to Thunderbird 3.1.4 email has suddenly
>stopped the Mailman 2.1.12 account, that I administer, from accepting my
>messages.

Exactly what happens when you send a post from T-bird. If it bounces or
if Mailman rejects it, what does the bounce/rejection message say?

If it is held for approval, what does the admindb interface say is the
reason?

If it just disappears, and you have access to the server's logs, what
does the MTA log and Mailman's vette log say, and if you don't have
access to those logs, ask the server admins or the hosting provider.

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Oct 2010 06:47
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Re: /etc/mailman/aliases.db

Troy Campbell wrote:

>For some reason when I moved the mailman configuration a few months ago
>I had to add /etc/mailman/aliases to the alias_maps e.g.,:
>
>alias_maps =    hash:/etc/aliases
>
>                hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
>
> 
>
>whereas on the old installation I didn't.  Since this is on a server
>that can fail over to another server that has the IMAP configuration
>which
>
>doesn't need /etc/mailman/aliases I would like to see if there is a
>workaround so that they both have the same postfix configuration.  Sorry
>
>if this is more of a postfix question but I didn't get an answer on
>their list yet. 

Postfix doesn't do IMAP, nor do other MTAs, so I'm not sure if the IMAP
reference is relevant.

Is the Mailman package on the other server the same as the one on this
server which is clearly a downstream package if aliases are in
/etc/mailman.

>Basically trying to get the /etc/postfix/main.cf files identical so I
>don't have to manage the differences and bounce postfix on failover.
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Mark Sapiro | 1 Oct 2010 07:04
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Re: Hold.py fails in hold_for_approval

Morris Jones wrote:

>I recently discovered that all of my moderated posts have been failing, 
>most likely because my mailman version was older than my python version.
>
>This is the error:
>
>Sep 29 20:52:12 2010 (5588) Uncaught runner exception: unbound method 
>reason_notice() must be called with ModeratedMemberPost instance as 
>first argument (got nothing instead)
>Sep 29 20:52:12 2010 (5588) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
>     filebase)
>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 169, in _onefile
>     'Dequeuing message destined for missing list: %s',
>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in 
>_dispose
>     more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in 
>_dopipeline
>     sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py", line 67, in process
>     msgdata['sender'] = sender

Something is really wrong with this traceback. The above line actually
is line 67 in Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py in all Mailman versions
since 2.1.9, but the actual lines that were executed here must have
been

                Hold.hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata,
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wilby | 1 Oct 2010 04:22
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Re: Mailman 2.1.12 can't accept email from Thunerbird3.1.4 help!


Mark Sapiro-3 wrote:
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> wilby wrote:
>>
>>For some reason a very recent update to Thunderbird 3.1.4 email has
suddenly
>>stopped the Mailman 2.1.12 account, that I administer, from accepting my
>>messages.
> 
> 
> Exactly what happens when you send a post from T-bird. If it bounces or
> if Mailman rejects it, what does the bounce/rejection message say?
> 
> If it is held for approval, what does the admindb interface say is the
> reason?
> 
> If it just disappears, and you have access to the server's logs, what
> does the MTA log and Mailman's vette log say, and if you don't have
> access to those logs, ask the server admins or the hosting provider.
> 
> -- 
> Mark:
> 
> The message is sent back to me (and only to me). 
> It starts with the rejection message under "privacy Options", "rejection
> to moderated members".
> 
> Then it presents me with a .eml file that contains me original message to
> MM.
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Mark Sapiro | 1 Oct 2010 08:33
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Re: Mailman 2.1.12 can't accept email fromThunerbird3.1.4 help!

wilby wrote:
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>> The message is sent back to me (and only to me). 
>> It starts with the rejection message under "privacy Options", "rejection
>> to moderated members".
>> 
>> Then it presents me with a .eml file that contains me original message to
>> MM.
>> 
>> At the end is an attachment of my original email.
>> 
>> The text in the open .eml file clearly shows a blank space just before the
>> approve: pw line.
>> 
>>  approve: pw    rather than
>> approve: pw
>> 
>> The original message does not get in the archive.

So you are relying on pre-approving the post, and since it is not
properly pre-approved (T-Bird's fault somehow) it is rejected,
presumably per your list settings.

>> I tried a message with the approve: pw on the second line, leaving the
>> first line blank. This did ge in the archive, but didn't get sent.

If it got to the archive, it reached the list and should have been
sent. The only reason it wouldn't have been sent is an error in
outgoing message processing or OutgoingRunner not running. If other
mail is being sent from Mailman, the problem is not that
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Troy Campbell | 1 Oct 2010 16:57
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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 80, Issue 2

Thanks again Mark.  I've decided to manage it with separate postfix
config files (one for when there is no service group on a server, one
for when there is just the Mailman service group, one for when there is
just the IMAP service group and one when there is both) and just restart
postfix and monitor it as part of VCS as it doesn't make sense to merge
config files for other reasons anyway.

Regards,
Troy

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Troy Campbell wrote:

>For some reason when I moved the mailman configuration a few months ago

>I had to add /etc/mailman/aliases to the alias_maps e.g.,:
>
>alias_maps =    hash:/etc/aliases
>
>                hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
>
> 
>
>whereas on the old installation I didn't.  Since this is on a server 
>that can fail over to another server that has the IMAP configuration 
>which
>
>doesn't need /etc/mailman/aliases I would like to see if there is a 
>workaround so that they both have the same postfix configuration.  
>Sorry
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wilby | 1 Oct 2010 21:27
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Re: Mailman 2.1.12 can't accept email fromThunerbird3.1.4 help!


Mark Sapiro-3 wrote:
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> wilby wrote:
>>> 
>>> The message is sent back to me (and only to me). 
>>> It starts with the rejection message under "privacy Options", "rejection
>>> to moderated members".
>>> 
>>> Then it presents me with a .eml file that contains me original message
>>> to
>>> MM.
>>> 
>>> At the end is an attachment of my original email.
>>> 
>>> The text in the open .eml file clearly shows a blank space just before
>>> the
>>> approve: pw line.
>>> 
>>>  approve: pw    rather than
>>> approve: pw
>>> 
>>> The original message does not get in the archive.
> 
> 
> So you are relying on pre-approving the post, and since it is not
> properly pre-approved (T-Bird's fault somehow) it is rejected,
> presumably per your list settings.
> 
>
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Guillaume Chartrand | 1 Oct 2010 17:23
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after new installation 403 Forbiden Access

I know it's been posted many time but all the answer wasn't apply to me. So I will ask it another time
I run Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS
I installed Python 2.6.6
I installed Apache 2.2.16
I download and try to install mailman 2.1.14

All the installation steps working fine, but when I try to create the first list with the web interface I've
got the 403 Forbidden page
Whenever I try to reach
http://mywebserver.com/mailman/create
                                                                         admin
                                                                        listinfo

I've always get the 403 error.
Here is the output of the command ls -la /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  4096 Sep 30 14:57 .
drwxrwsr-x  20 root mailman  4096 Sep 30 14:57 ..
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15658 Sep 30 14:57 admin
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 admindb
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 confirm
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 create
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15666 Sep 30 14:57 edithtml
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15666 Sep 30 14:57 listinfo
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 options
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 private
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 rmlist
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15662 Sep 30 14:57 roster
-rwxr-sr-x   1 root mailman 15666 Sep 30 14:57 subscribe

Here's some of the httpd.conf line
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