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Jeffrey Goldberg | 1 Sep 2009 21:51
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Mass subscribe blunder

This is more of a list management question than a Mailman question,  
but I need your collective wisdom

I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
intended to do a mass Invite.

The addresses come from a sign up sheet specifically for this list,  
but the combination of some not very legible addresses along with the  
potential for typos (I typed them all in) mean that will almost  
certainly be a handful of addresses subscribed that have no interest  
in the Wilson Middle School PTA Newsletter (Plano, TX).

Obviously this was a situation where an Invite was what was needed.  I  
had just overlooked the radio button for this.

I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.

Any advice is welcome.

-j

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Jeffrey Goldberg                        http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/
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Rosenbaum, Larry M. | 1 Sep 2009 21:21
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What causes "decoding Unicode is not supported"?

We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2. What causes the following "decoding
Unicode is not supported" error message?  I've looked at digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.

Thanks, Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: GNU Mailman [mailto:mailman <at> ornl71.ornl.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:00 PM
To: mailman <at> ornl71.ornl.gov
Subject: [Mailman Site List] Output from "cron" command

Your "cron" job on ornl71
/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests

produced the following output:

List: dcaplusplus: problem processing /usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
decoding Unicode is not supported
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Adam McGreggor | 1 Sep 2009 22:35
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Re: Mass subscribe blunder

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> I just did a mass Subscribe (288 address) for a list where I had  
> intended to do a mass Invite.

[...]
> I'm hopeful that I will be able to explain and apologize to anyone who  
> complains to me, but I fear that I won't have that opportunity and  
> will get blocked by the likes of AoL right off the bat.
> 
> Any advice is welcome.

Be pre-emptive/pro-active and mail the people you sub'd explaining
that you meant to invite them to join the list, but human error caused
them to be subscribed; that the list is low-traffic/announcements from
the school only (or whatever). Provide a link to *their* options page,
along with something like:
    "I understand if you want to unsubscribe -- you can so do via
    <http://foo.example.org/mailman/options/emailaddy>"

(It's the sort of thing I'd grep the subscribe log for, and then let
some perl/bash mail each person, giving them their customized URIs.)

If you didn't send a welcome message, a slightly cheeky option is to
unsub (without notification), and invite the folks.

(Still, it's a lot better than sending a reply about privacy policy to
a complete list of a few k subscribers, rather than the individual you
thought you were sending it to: there's a reason my external lists are
set to require all posts to be approved, even those from staff.)
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Jeff Grossman | 2 Sep 2009 01:18
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Postfix-To-Mailman.py

I am not sure if this is better suited for this mailing list or for
Postfix.  I am running Mailman 2.1.12 on Debian.  Everything is setup
and working fine except for one thing.  I am using the
postfix-to-mailman.py script to automatically create the virtual mapping
in Postfix.  All of my lists are working perfectly, except mail to
postmaster or abuse for that virtual domain is getting rejected with the
following error:

Sep  1 16:13:57 corp2 postfix/smtpd[25764]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
corp1.turners.com[192.168.168.229]: 550 5.1.1
<postmaster <at> lists.turners.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
in relay recipient table

Can anybody tell me what I messed up in the configuration?  I followed
each item at the top of the postfix-to-mailman.py file, but I get the
rejected message.

Thanks,

Jeff
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Email Help | 1 Sep 2009 22:18
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Modifying Welcome Message Subject Lines

I host several mailing lists off a single mailman server. I would like 
to be able to modify the subject line of the initial welcome message for 
some of the mailing lists. Is this possible?  I was able to modify the 
subject line of messages being posted by modifying the global pipeline, 
but did not see my welcome messages subject being changed.
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Andrei | 1 Sep 2009 01:29
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failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused')

I don't know how to resolve this. Mailman is running.
Everything seems OK but when I try to send an email to the list I see
the following error messages and message is never gets sent (by
mailman)

tail -f /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure
Error  Aug 31 16:11:17 2009 (15875) delivery to
enews-owner <at> lists.myFQD.org failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection
refused')

netstat -na | grep 25 (IP's are obfuscated)
tcp        0      0 74.125.127.1:25           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
tcp        0      1 74.125.127.1:50036        74.125.47.121:143       SYN_SENT

telnet lists.myFQD.org 25
Trying 74.125.127.1...
Connected to 74.125.127.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 lists.myFQD.org ESMTP Exim 4.69 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:25:50 -0700
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Andrei | 1 Sep 2009 06:16
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Re: Messages are not delivered to list members...

Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
created. I'm confused.

Help?

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
> archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
> list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
> like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
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Andrei | 1 Sep 2009 07:16
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Re: Messages are not delivered to list members...

I've been at this for three hours now and still no luck.

I do have MTA = None in mm_cfg.py
bin/newlist gives me Hit enter to notify %(listname)s owner...' prompt
but the owner never gets a message.
There is nothing /var/log/mailman/error

When I try to telnet on port 25 from outside (different public
network) the connection times out.
When I try to telnet from the server on port 25 I get standard SMTP greeting.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
> created. I'm confused.
>
> Help?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
>> archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
>> list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
>> like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>
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Andrei | 1 Sep 2009 07:37
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Re: Messages are not delivered to list members...

I can send and receive emails from the command line from this server.
I assume that means exim4 is working fine. This must be a mailman
issue. I just don't know how to troubleshoot this. Arrgh...

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been at this for three hours now and still no luck.
>
> I do have MTA = None in mm_cfg.py
> bin/newlist gives me Hit enter to notify %(listname)s owner...' prompt
> but the owner never gets a message.
> There is nothing /var/log/mailman/error
>
> When I try to telnet on port 25 from outside (different public
> network) the connection times out.
> When I try to telnet from the server on port 25 I get standard SMTP greeting.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh, I just noticed that owners are never notified when new list is
>> created. I'm confused.
>>
>> Help?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Andrei<funactivities <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
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Andrei | 1 Sep 2009 05:31
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Messages are not delivered to list members...

I can create a list, send emails to the list, I can even go to list
archives to view messages, but the same messages never get sent to
list members. List has default settings (no moderation or anything
like that). I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Any help would be
appreciated.
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