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AMBROSE CHRISTOPHER | 1 Jan 2007 04:01
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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 70


no offense but i thought you guys used just so you could have as a teaching tool ,I never even considered
possibility that was what you actually preffered to use. some of the new stuff show you examples of 1ooo
ways to do and with the new discs and redundancy in them, you can look at completely in every respect before
even making a decision. But you get 1 100th the problems. tough to teach from that. like having a harley and
buying a honda.you suddenly find yourself riding rather then fixing.

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Brad Knowles | 1 Jan 2007 07:12
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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 70

At 7:01 PM -0800 12/31/06, AMBROSE CHRISTOPHER wrote:

>  no offense but i thought you guys used just so you could have as a
>  teaching tool ,I never even considered possibility that was what
>  you actually preffered to use.

I'm confused.  What are you talking about?

>  some of the new stuff show you examples of 1ooo ways to do and
>  with the new discs and redundancy in them, you can look at
>  completely in every respect before even making a decision. But
>  you get 1 100th the problems. tough to teach from that. like
>  having a harley and buying a honda.you suddenly find yourself
>  riding rather then fixing.

I'm sorry, I'm not understanding anything that you're saying.  Are 
you sure that this is the list where you intended to post this 
material?

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emmexx | 1 Jan 2007 23:31
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Moderator subscribing by email

I'm starting to write a program that my club needs to keep in sync a 
database and the subscribers of a couple of mailing list.

I know there are the users web pages, the -request or -subscribe 
addresses or the administration panel but I would like to automate the 
process.

It would be great if a list moderator or administrator could subscribe 
or unsubscribe somebody by email.
I mean:
- the moderator sends a message to listname-request containing his 
(moderator) password and the address to subscribe.
- the address gets suscribed with no need to confirm.

I found nothing of this kind in the faq and in the archives of this 
mailing list.

I can't access the server, so I can't patch/add/modify any server file 
or configuration.

thank you
	maxx
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Dragon | 2 Jan 2007 07:41
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Re: Moderator subscribing by email

emmexx did speak thusly:

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>I can't access the server, so I can't patch/add/modify any server file
>or configuration.
---------------- End original message. ---------------------

Everything you said above that is essentially moot unless you can 
find somebody who can do so. What you wish to do requires code 
modifications, you are pretty much out of luck as there is no 
standard configuration that will allow you to do what you wish.

Dragon

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Brian Atkins | 2 Jan 2007 21:08
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The incredible disapearing post?

Greetings, all!

I have a mailing list set up for company-wide emails to which any member 
can post (in other words, a plain vanilla list). However, I have one 
user that has been attempting to post to the list but his emails are 
disappearing.

I can see the message hitting the server and being passed off to 
mailman, but I can not find anything in the mailman logs to indicate 
that it was ever received. His account is identical to everyone else, 
but he 'appears' to be the only member that has this issue. I have 
removed and recreated his account several times, but there has been no 
change.

Any ideas on where to look?

MAIL.LOG:
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Jan  2 09:19:27 mail sendmail[13025]: l02EJNaC013025: 
from=<user <at> MYDOMAIN.com>, size=1791, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
msgid=<001801c72e79$02aa6370$163b0a0a <at> MYDOMAIN.com>, proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=MTA, relay=[10.10.57.184]

Jan  2 09:21:04 mail sendmail[13363]: l02EJNaC013025: 
to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post COMPANY", 
ctladdr=<COMPANY <at> MYDOMAIN.com> (8/0), delay=00:01:37, xdelay=00:00:02, 
mailer=prog, pri=121791, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

Here is another user sending the same post (text-wise) to the same list:
MAIL.LOG:
(Continue reading)

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Paul Tomblin | 2 Jan 2007 21:34
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Re: The incredible disapearing post?

Quoting Brian Atkins (batkins <at> tlcdelivers.com):
> can post (in other words, a plain vanilla list). However, I have one 
> user that has been attempting to post to the list but his emails are 
> disappearing.
> 
> I can see the message hitting the server and being passed off to 
> mailman, but I can not find anything in the mailman logs to indicate 
> that it was ever received. His account is identical to everyone else, 
> but he 'appears' to be the only member that has this issue. I have 
> removed and recreated his account several times, but there has been no 
> change.
> 
> Any ideas on where to look?
> 

Look on the admindb page to see if they're being held for some reason.

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Dragon | 2 Jan 2007 22:02
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Re: The incredible disapearing post?

Brian Atkins sent the message below at 12:08 1/2/2007:
>Greetings, all!
>
>I have a mailing list set up for company-wide emails to which any member
>can post (in other words, a plain vanilla list). However, I have one
>user that has been attempting to post to the list but his emails are
>disappearing.
>
>I can see the message hitting the server and being passed off to
>mailman, but I can not find anything in the mailman logs to indicate
>that it was ever received. His account is identical to everyone else,
>but he 'appears' to be the only member that has this issue. I have
>removed and recreated his account several times, but there has been no
>change.
>
>Any ideas on where to look?
>
>MAIL.LOG:
>---------
>Jan  2 09:19:27 mail sendmail[13025]: l02EJNaC013025:
>from=<user <at> MYDOMAIN.com>, size=1791, class=0, nrcpts=1,
>msgid=<001801c72e79$02aa6370$163b0a0a <at> MYDOMAIN.com>, proto=ESMTP,
>daemon=MTA, relay=[10.10.57.184]
>
>Jan  2 09:21:04 mail sendmail[13363]: l02EJNaC013025:
>to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post COMPANY",
>ctladdr=<COMPANY <at> MYDOMAIN.com> (8/0), delay=00:01:37, xdelay=00:00:02,
>mailer=prog, pri=121791, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>
>Here is another user sending the same post (text-wise) to the same list:
(Continue reading)

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Brian Atkins | 2 Jan 2007 21:55
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Re: The incredible disapearing post?

I guess I forgot to add that info to my previous post. No, it's not 
getting hung up in the admindb.

I was able to get one message from him to go through this afternoon by 
unchecking 'log on to the server before sending' in Outlook.

Hmmm... I can't imagine why that would have prevented him from sending 
through mailman. I decided to look there after I noticed that the 
message he was sending had a message ID of " <at> AD-DOMAIN.DOMAIN.COM" and 
the other user was " <at> mail.DOMAIN.COM".

Weird. Any idea why that would have caused an issue with Mailman?

Brian

Paul Tomblin wrote:
> Quoting Brian Atkins (batkins <at> tlcdelivers.com):
>> can post (in other words, a plain vanilla list). However, I have one 
>> user that has been attempting to post to the list but his emails are 
>> disappearing.
>>
>> I can see the message hitting the server and being passed off to 
>> mailman, but I can not find anything in the mailman logs to indicate 
>> that it was ever received. His account is identical to everyone else, 
>> but he 'appears' to be the only member that has this issue. I have 
>> removed and recreated his account several times, but there has been no 
>> change.
>>
>> Any ideas on where to look?
>>
(Continue reading)

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Paul Tomblin | 2 Jan 2007 22:20
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Re: The incredible disapearing post?

Quoting Brian Atkins (batkins <at> tlcdelivers.com):
> I was able to get one message from him to go through this afternoon by 
> unchecking 'log on to the server before sending' in Outlook.
> 
> Hmmm... I can't imagine why that would have prevented him from sending 
> through mailman. I decided to look there after I noticed that the 
> message he was sending had a message ID of " <at> AD-DOMAIN.DOMAIN.COM" and 
> the other user was " <at> mail.DOMAIN.COM".

If it's changing the Message-ID, it might be changing the From address as
well.  Is your mailing list set to reject mail from non-members?  If so,
it's possible that Outlook is changing his From to something other than
what he subscribed as.  Is there anything in the vette log?

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Brian Atkins | 2 Jan 2007 22:30
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Re: The incredible disapearing post?

Nothing in vette or other logs. It is set to hold non-members, but I 
also have a rule in place to accept any sender on our domain, just in 
case the new employees aren't updated as frequently as need be.

accept_these_non-members:	^.* <at> DOMAIN\.com

Brian

Paul Tomblin wrote:

> If it's changing the Message-ID, it might be changing the From address as
> well.  Is your mailing list set to reject mail from non-members?  If so,
> it's possible that Outlook is changing his From to something other than
> what he subscribed as.  Is there anything in the vette log?
>
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