BG Mahesh | 1 Apr 04:55 2006
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Importing Eudora email box into archives

hi

I have the archives of a mailing list in my Eudora mailbox [with
attachments]. Is there anyway I could import it into Mailman archives?

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B.G. Mahesh

Mark Sapiro | 1 Apr 06:01 2006
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Re: Importing Eudora email box into archives

BG Mahesh wrote:
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>I have the archives of a mailing list in my Eudora mailbox [with
>attachments]. Is there anyway I could import it into Mailman archives?

bin/arch will probably do it.

I would do the following steps. First

bin/cleanarch < eudora.mbx > temp.mbox

Then it depends on whether or not there are existing Mailman archives
for the list, and if so, whether it is important to preserve the
existing message numbers in this archive. Basically, you want to
concatenate the existing archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox
file if any and the temp.mbox created above.

If preserving message numbers is not a priority, it is best to do

cat temp.mbox archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox > temp2.mbox
cp temp2.mbox archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox

which will leave archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox in
cronological sequence, but if you want to preserve message numbers,
you need to add temp.mbox to the end.

In either case, you then do

bin/arch --wipe listname

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Apr 07:30 2006
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Re: Importing Eudora email box into archives

BG Mahesh wrote:
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>Cool, I will try it out. How to preserve the attachments?

This is a problem.

I looked more closely at a Eudora .mbx file and I see that the MIME
structure of the messages is not preserved. The messages are
'flattened' - the outer Content-Type: header is preserved, but all
boundaries and part headers are removed and non-text attachments are
stored aside with a pointer left in the message.

Thus, the messages in the Eudora .mbx file are vaguely similar to
messages that have been scrubbed by Mailman's Scrubber.py module,
except the Content-Type: of the Eudora message is no longer correct
which will probably confuse the Mailman bin/arch process.

Thus, converting the Eudora .mbx will probably require a fairly
involved script. I'm not aware of an existing one.

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Bob Bales | 1 Apr 20:51 2006
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Re: Importing Eudora email box into archives

What does it mean when a message is kocked back due to:

>Cause: Message has implicit destination

Thanks,
Bob

Dragon | 1 Apr 21:33 2006

Re: Importing Eudora email box into archives

Bob Bales did speak thusly:
>What does it mean when a message is kocked back due to:
>
> >Cause: Message has implicit destination
---------------- End original message. ---------------------

This means that the list address was not explicitly on the To: line 
of the e-mail header and was probably included as a Bcc:

Dragon

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Mark Sapiro | 1 Apr 21:41 2006
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Re: Implicit destination

Bob Bales wrote:

>What does it mean when a message is kocked back due to:
>
>>Cause: Message has implicit destination

It means that Privacy options...->Recipient
filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and neither the list
posting address nor any acceptable_aliases were found in the To: or
Cc: headers of the post.

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San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

MichaelP | 1 Apr 21:50 2006

Re: Implicit destination

It also that some listserves won't respond when their address is listed 
bcc: . It's a total pain that a sender who prefers addressing to lists of 
bcc: addresses has to persuade the owner of some mailman lists to 
reconfigure so as to accept posting to their list under bcc;  the 
alternative is to post separately to such lists  -- which means 
identiofying which owners don't care about other posters privacy wishes.

Michael 

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Bob Bales wrote:

>What does it mean when a message is kocked back due to:
>
>>Cause: Message has implicit destination

It means that Privacy options...->Recipient
filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and neither the list
posting address nor any acceptable_aliases were found in the To: or
Cc: headers of the post.

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San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Kaja P. Christiansen | 2 Apr 18:15 2006
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Re: [Solved] Importing Archives Not Working


Karl Zander wrote:

> The python code from Mark below worked nicley to convert
> the date formats.  My imported archives are visiable in
> Mailman.

I've followed this thread, as Mailman site administrator at two different
sites (and continents :) and will try to see whether it may help me to
integrate Mailman and HtDig for the last two releases of Mailman (that is,
2.1.7 & 2.1.81b).

This said, I'd like to express many thanks and much appreciation to
Richard Barret in UK for providing the Mailman/HtDig integration patches
up to and including Mailman v. 2.1.6. The patches worked 'out of the box'
and the quality of the searchable archives they produced was superior to
what we see on this list (imho).

Does anyone on this list has a working email address for Richard Barrett?

Regards
Kaja

DongInn Kim | 3 Apr 00:03 2006
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Re: Turn off wraping a line

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your answer.
Yes, I don't care about 'header folding' but 'body folding'.
My issue occurred because we believe that MUA and MTA have setup not to
wrap any long lines but mailman somehow wraps them up.
So, I am looking for any thing to turn off this feature on mailman.
Can this be done on mm_cfg.py or do I have to tweak some codes
(especially Mailman/Utils.py)?

Regards,

-- DongInn
Mark Sapiro wrote:

>DongInn Kim wrote:
>  
>
>>Is there a simple configuration to turn off the functionality of
>>wrapping a line in a mail?
>>    
>>
>
>
>If you're talking about 'header folding', then no, there is no option
>to stop Mailman from doing this.
>
>If you're talking about folding lines in the body of the message, I
>don't know anywhere in Mailman where folding would be done except
>maybe in content filtering html to plain text conversion. Folding is
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Mark Sapiro | 3 Apr 02:14 2006
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Re: Turn off wraping a line

DongInn Kim wrote:
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>Thanks for your answer.
>Yes, I don't care about 'header folding' but 'body folding'.
>My issue occurred because we believe that MUA and MTA have setup not to
>wrap any long lines but mailman somehow wraps them up.

How long are these lines before and after wrapping?

If you look for example at
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-March/050215.html>
you will see a post with a 740 character line that isn't wrapped.

>So, I am looking for any thing to turn off this feature on mailman.
>Can this be done on mm_cfg.py or do I have to tweak some codes
>(especially Mailman/Utils.py)?

There is no mm_cfg.py setting for this. In fact, I don't think there is
anything in the mailman code at all that does this intentionally, so I
can't tell you where to look.

If the lists Non-digest options->scrub-nondigest is set to Yes, you
might try setting it to No to see if that makes a difference (if so,
you would then look at Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py).

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San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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