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Iain Dooley | 1 May 2005 05:56

Sendmail integration, mail not being processed?

hi, i've just installed mailman and mm-handler on a FreeBSD machine with uname:

FreeBSD kingfish.scoastnet.com.au 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 27 22:44:45 EST
2005     amac <at> kingfish.scoastnet.com.au:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEWKERNEL  i386

i am able to create and maintain lists, but get no response (not even an error) when i send mail to a list.

i followed the process for sendmail integration described in the mm-handler howto. when i call 'make' from
/etc/mail/ i get the following errors:

cp freebsd.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc > kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.cf
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()

*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()

*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()

cp freebsd.submit.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc > kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.cf

i am able to subscribe users through the web interface, and get the confirmation emails. i can use the
confirmation http link, but if i respond to the confirmation email then i do not get the 'welcome' message.

once subscribed, i do not get emails back when i send to the list. i do not get any error emails, i just receive
no emails in response when i send to my mailing list. the following are some messages from /var/log/messages:

May  1 03:10:00 kingfish cron[67069]: _secure_path: cannot stat none/.login_conf: Permission denied
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Dale Rose | 1 May 2005 03:08

Announce only?

Is it possible to make a mailman list announce only?

I've got the list reply-to address set to a specific, non-list address
but if the end user chooses to reply to all, the list address gets
included as well.  We try to keep all subscribers set to moderated,
but inevitably one or two will get through.

Can the list be set so that only messages from specified addresses get
posted, regardless of moderated status?

Many thanks,

Dale
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Iain Dooley | 1 May 2005 18:05

User Unknown Error (was Sendmail integration, mail not being processed?)

hello, i have fixed some problems with my sendmail.cf file, and have got sendmail running correctly and it
is (apparently) handing off tasks to mailman. 

i can now see that i am getting 'user unknown' error messages (ie. bounces) when i send to my lists:

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<off-the-grid <at> lists.scoastnet.com.au>
    (reason: 550 5.1.1 <off-the-grid <at> lists.scoastnet.com.au>... User unknown)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to lists.scoastnet.com.au.:

>>>>>> DATA

<<< 550 5.1.1 <off-the-grid <at> lists.scoastnet.com.au>... User unknown
550 5.1.1 <off-the-grid <at> lists.scoastnet.com.au>... User unknown
<<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)

i have created lists through both the command line and web interfaces. i can log in and subscribe users to the
off-the-grid list on the web, and have received subscription confirmation emails afterwards.

some similar 'user unknown' errors in the mailman-users archives suggest that this is a problem with
aliases, but my impression was that when you use mm-handler with sendmail, you no longer need to worry
about aliases. my mailertable looks like this:

lists.scoastnet.com.au  mailman:lists.scoastnet.com.au

my mailer definition looks like this:

Mmailman,       P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailnull,
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Tony Bibbs | 1 May 2005 20:14
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config.db to config.pck?

I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd like
to move all the lists over to a new server running
2.1.5.  I've got all the lists and archives moved over
but none of the email addresses from the old server
are in the lists on the new server.  I noticed that
config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with config.pck
in 2.1.5.  How do I convert those?

I saw a note in the archives about using bin/update
but that does nothing for me (as I assume that is in
the case where you have upgrade the server as opposed
to moving them to a different server all together).

Please advise.

--Tony

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Mark Sapiro | 1 May 2005 18:36

Re: Bounce processing

Doc Schneider wrote:
> 
> Can Mailman, when it gets a bounce, send the bounce to the listowner and 
> not process it? Alls I can find is the option to turn off (and discard) 
> bounce processing.

You can change the listname-bounces alias to be the same as the 
listname-owner alias.

> I've got a list that is sent out monthly and need to track bounces to 
> remove members who do bounce.

Mailman's bounce processing can do this.

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Mark Sapiro | 1 May 2005 18:52

Re: new to mime filters

Jarrel Pertschuk wrote:

> Hey there trying to learn how to filter attachments with a list of 
> extensions. I'd like to write a filter that will scan for all items like 
> .exe, .dll  and a long list of things of that sort and delete them. Not 
> sure how to do this. Can anyone help with this basic question?

Mailman 2.1.6 header filter rules extend to mime subparts. Thus you can 
use these rules to delete/hold/reject entire posts based on regexp 
matches on the file name of attachments. You can't just strip the 
attachment this way though. That can only be done by mime content-type 
through the standard content filtering settings.

There is a post from Tokio Kikuchi in this list's archives about this, 
but I'm currently on a ship where internet connectivity costs 
$0.35/minute, so I leave it to you to find it.

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Mark Sapiro | 1 May 2005 20:33

Re: config.db to config.pck?

Tony Bibbs wrote:
> I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd like
> to move all the lists over to a new server running
> 2.1.5.  I've got all the lists and archives moved over
> but none of the email addresses from the old server
> are in the lists on the new server.  I noticed that
> config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with config.pck
> in 2.1.5.  How do I convert those?

Don't create new lists on the new server first. If you have, remove the 
config.pck and config.pck.last. If 2.1.5 finds only config.db, it will 
convert it automatically the first time the list is instantiated.

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Jerry Feldman | 1 May 2005 20:39
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Re: config.db to config.pck?

On Sun, 1 May 2005 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT)
Tony Bibbs <tony_bibbs <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd like
> to move all the lists over to a new server running
> 2.1.5.  I've got all the lists and archives moved over
> but none of the email addresses from the old server
> are in the lists on the new server.  I noticed that
> config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with config.pck
> in 2.1.5.  How do I convert those?
> 
> I saw a note in the archives about using bin/update
> but that does nothing for me (as I assume that is in
> the case where you have upgrade the server as opposed
> to moving them to a different server all together).
I did this last November:

Here is a pointer to a relevant part of the mailman faq:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=moving&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search

Pay particular attention to Barry Warsaw's page:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers <at> python.org/msg03127.html

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Tony Bibbs | 1 May 2005 21:46
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Re: config.db to config.pck?

what do you mean by 'the first time the list is
instantiated'?  I already have the lists so this route
will be slick if I can get it to work.

--Tony

--- Mark Sapiro <msapiro <at> value.net> wrote:
> Tony Bibbs wrote:
> > I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd
> like
> > to move all the lists over to a new server running
> > 2.1.5.  I've got all the lists and archives moved
> over
> > but none of the email addresses from the old
> server
> > are in the lists on the new server.  I noticed
> that
> > config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with
> config.pck
> > in 2.1.5.  How do I convert those?
> 
> Don't create new lists on the new server first. If
> you have, remove the 
> config.pck and config.pck.last. If 2.1.5 finds only
> config.db, it will 
> convert it automatically the first time the list is
> instantiated.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <msapiro <at> value.net>       The highway is
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Tony Bibbs | 1 May 2005 21:50
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Re: config.db to config.pck?

Nevermind, if I do a bin/list_members <list> that
seemed to trigger creating the config.pck

Thanks!

--Tony

--- Tony Bibbs <tony_bibbs <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> what do you mean by 'the first time the list is
> instantiated'?  I already have the lists so this
> route
> will be slick if I can get it to work.
> 
> --Tony
> 
> --- Mark Sapiro <msapiro <at> value.net> wrote:
> > Tony Bibbs wrote:
> > > I've got a server running mailman 2.0.13 and I'd
> > like
> > > to move all the lists over to a new server
> running
> > > 2.1.5.  I've got all the lists and archives
> moved
> > over
> > > but none of the email addresses from the old
> > server
> > > are in the lists on the new server.  I noticed
> > that
> > > config.db in 2.0.13 has been replace with
> > config.pck
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