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Christian Nally | 1 Oct 1999 01:38
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help me make my warnings go away.

Dear Mailman Makers,

GREAT PROGRAM! Running mailing lists was the reason I got into linux oh so
long ago. Mailman is the tool that we all needed all those years.
Congradulations! (kudos to majordomo required at this point... :)

Dear Mailman Users,

I have a simple problem. But I just can't find the switch to fix it.
I get this warning in pink at the top of an admin page.

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Warning: you have lst members, but non-digestified mail is turned off.
They will receive mail until you fix this problem.
>>

I copied and pasted that, so it's shown as-is. I don't quite understand
the message actually. Should 'lst' be list? I have many members all set to
receive non-digest (that is normal mail). Why would it be a problem if
they got mail? The list seems to be functioning normally.

The real questions are these:

Where are the switches to enable and disable mail types?

What do I have to do to get this warning to go away?

THANKS ALL...

Christian Nally
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PalmConsult Markus Reichart | 1 Oct 1999 10:20
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monthly reminder seems to overload our machine

Hello to all,

We running Mailman 1.0 using sendmail on SuSe 6.0 with 1200 users in one
mailinglist.
On every 1th of a month I see the same trouble:

mailman/logs/smtp-failures says:
Oct 01 05:00:19 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx <at> fh-wolfenbuettel.de:
Oct 01 05:00:19 1999 TrySMTPDelivery:
Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPServerDisconnected  / Connecti
......eight error messages like above...
Oct 01 05:00:19 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx <at> mgi.de:
Oct 01 05:00:19 1999 TrySMTPDelivery:    socket.error  / (111, 'Connection
refused')  (deferred) 
.... hundreds of error messages like above...

Mail to the listadmin:
Logging error: <StampedLogger to '/home/mailman/logs/smtp-failures'> 
Traceback (innermost last): 
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 55, in __get_f 
IOError: (24, 'Too many open files') 
Original log message: 
(24, 'Too many open files') 
Oct 01 05:12:10 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx <at> tronet.de: 
Oct 01 05:12:10 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: socket.error / host not found (deferred) 
Oct 01 05:12:10 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: Maybe your MTA daemon needs restarting? 
Logging error: <StampedLogger to '/home/mailman/logs/error'> 
Traceback (innermost last): 
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 55, in __get_f 
IOError: (24, 'Too many open files')
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Bek Oberin | 1 Oct 1999 12:28
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list memberships reminders

The membership reminder notices are being sent out with
wrong List-Id fields on them ...

Since they potentially have entries from multiple lists,
should they have a List-Id at all?

bekj

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Aaron Optimizer Digulla | 1 Oct 1999 12:50
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Pending admin requests

Why does Mailman show all pending request at one time when one can
process only one at a time ?

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Aaron Optimizer Digulla | 1 Oct 1999 12:52
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Re: Problems with subscribed users

On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:08:47PM +0200, Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:

> > Sep 23 05:13:42 1999 post: envsend: Stefan.Berger <at> att.net, sender: root
> > Why is sender wrong sometimes ?
> Here is a header for which mailman says the sender is "root":
>[...]

It seems it's a problem with Netscape: Netscape will add a Sender: field
to the mail header and if one exists, Mailman will use it (instead of
>From or From:) no matter what it contains. Can you change mailman to
remove that field from the mail header when it sees the mail for the
first time ?

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Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt.		       <http://www.aros.org/>
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Joshua S. Freeman | 1 Oct 1999 14:04

still want to know about Y2K compliance

I need to have some kind of 'cert' that mailman is y2k compliant.  I didn't
find anything on the mailman website.

If I can't provide this, I'm afraid I won't be allowed to 'keep' it by our
new IT director.

Please help!

Thanks,
J.
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Karel van der Waarde | 1 Oct 1999 14:28
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Re: list memberships reminders

Dear all,

I have switched the 'monthly membership reminders' off for both my lists.

Does this affect Mailman's bounce-behaviour?
(Are the bounces to these 'monthly reminders' essential for the automatic
bounce control?)

Kind regards,
Karel van der Waarde
waarde <at> glo.be
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Aaron Optimizer Digulla | 1 Oct 1999 14:28
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Re: still want to know about Y2K compliance

On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:04:50AM -0400, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:

> I need to have some kind of 'cert' that mailman is y2k compliant.  I didn't
> find anything on the mailman website.
> If I can't provide this, I'm afraid I won't be allowed to 'keep' it by our
> new IT director.

*THIS IS NO LEGAL STATEMENT. IF ANYONE IS HARMED IN ANY WAY BY WHAT IS
SAID BELOW, THEN I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE* :-)

Mailman reads times from your mail system, so if that is y2k compliant,
there *should* be no problems. Python itself should also be y2k compliant
(see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?query=y2k&querytype=anykeywords&casefold=yes&req=search).

See this URL also for an explanation why there is no "cert": If someone
would say "Mailman is compliant" and some obscure bug shows up, that
person would be liable for this (and that could end up in large sues
for damages).

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Author of XDME, ResTrackLib, CInt.		       <http://www.aros.org/>
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Nigel Metheringham | 1 Oct 1999 15:29
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Re: Pending admin requests

digulla <at> hepe.com said:
> Why does Mailman show all pending request at one time when one can
> process only one at a time ?

You can do all at once - mark all the radio buttons, and hit the top 
submit and it works.

	Nigel.

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Brian Mulvaney | 1 Oct 1999 07:39

Commercial hosting for Mailman lists?

I moderate a reasonably active discussion list with about 1,000 subscribers
(currently on Post.Office).  I would like to move my list to Mailman,
however, I'm not really set up to run it in house.  Is anyone aware of any
ISPs that host Mailman on a commercial basis?

TIA,

Brian

P.S.  If I were to run Mailman in house (literally in my house) I'd have to
contend with a line speed of 128k to the net.  I'm wondering if this would
pose a troublesome bottleneck and would love feedback from anyone running
Mailman across 128k ISDN.
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