13 May 1998 16:28
28 May 1998 23:13
Newbie Questions
Corbett J. Klempay <cklempay <at> chimera.acm.jhu.edu>
1998-05-28 21:13:06 GMT
1998-05-28 21:13:06 GMT
Note: I made the mistake of sending this same message just to klm yesterday before realizing (reading, more like) that I should just send these types of messages to the list in general...so here you go: Hey there...I'm a member of my school (Johns Hopkins) ACM chapter...we just brought this machine (www2.acm.jhu.edu/chimera.acm.jhu.edu/projects.acm.jhu.edu) online earlier this month, and now that it's provent to be stable, we're going to move our mail and list services over to it (from an old PowerMac). Right now, we use Majordomo for lists; I don't administer our Majordomo installation myself, but will probably have a hand in the list administration once it's moved. Earlier this year, I became a big Python fan (I even gave a tutorial peer teaching session on it at one of our ACM meetings), and *really* liked the whole look/feel/functionality of the Pipermail setup on python.org. I have been starting to learn about Majordomo some lately (in anticipation of having to deal with it for the transition), and I'm thinking that it's not really all that cool :) So, I checked the Python site to see what you guys were running, and I must say, from initial impressions, Mailman is much slicker (functionality wise and *especially* user-wise with the whole clean web interface). The thing is, I'm wondering...documentation seems sparse. Not having much experience with even Majordomo, I'm wondering if you could maybe give me the Reader's Digest version of how I'd move our Majordomo lists to a Mailman installation (and how I'd install Mailman) on this new machine (the new machine is a Red Hat 5.0, soon to be 5.1 installation; detailed info about all aspects of the machine are available through our website). Are there any disadvantages to using Mailman vs. Majordomo? If I get too much resistence to using Mailman from the other machine admins, I think I'll have to try something like MajorCool with Majordomo...but Mailman seems to be a much cleaner solution. Also, how easy is it to install and get(Continue reading)
28 May 1998 23:31
Re: Newbie Questions
John Viega <viega <at> list.org>
1998-05-28 21:31:53 GMT
1998-05-28 21:31:53 GMT
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 05:13:06PM -0400, Corbett J. Klempay wrote: > The thing is, I'm > wondering...documentation seems sparse. Not having much experience with > even Majordomo, I'm wondering if you could maybe give me the Reader's > Digest version of how I'd move our Majordomo lists to a Mailman > installation (and how I'd install Mailman) on this new machine (the new > machine is a Red Hat 5.0, soon to be 5.1 installation; detailed info about > all aspects of the machine are available through our website). Well, the documentation is indeed somewhat lacking. It's fairly high on my personal wishlist. Thankfully, what you want to do is pretty easy. First, you create new lists with the same name as the old list. Then you run bin/convert_list. The documentation for that is currently in the comments at the top of the file. It's all pretty straightforward. > Are there > any disadvantages to using Mailman vs. Majordomo? Nothing comes to mind... > If I get too much > resistence to using Mailman from the other machine admins, I think I'll > have to try something like MajorCool with Majordomo...but Mailman seems to > be a much cleaner solution. Well, if it helps sell Mailman, you can tell them that Mailman is now the GNU mailing list manager. > Also, how easy is it to install and get(Continue reading)
28 May 1998 23:42
Re: Newbie Questions
Ken Manheimer <klm <at> cnri.reston.va.us>
1998-05-28 21:42:44 GMT
1998-05-28 21:42:44 GMT
On Thu, 28 May 1998, Corbett J. Klempay wrote: > Note: I made the mistake of sending this same message just to klm > yesterday before realizing (reading, more like) that I should just send > these types of messages to the list in general...so here you go: (I was almost to the point of composing a message to suggest you do this - thanks. I was going to mention that there is a bit bigger subscribership to the mailman-developers at the moment, and they might have an interest in fielding the question, but it's much better if mailman-users provides answers for you. I would try to address your questions, but i'm running out of time to wrap up loose ends before i'm away for a week, so this'll have to do.) Ken Manheimer klm <at> python.org 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # # <http://www.python.org/psa/>. #
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