David T-G | 1 Jan 17:03 2003

converting existing list to subscriber-only posting

Hi, all --

I have a couple of mailing lists that I'd like to convert from wide open
to subscriber-only postings.  I took a look through the list archives and
the FAQ and I think that something like

  ezmlm-make -e -moreoptions ...

would add moreoptions to an existing list, but my version doesn't support
a -e:

  bash-2.05a$ ezmlm-make -e
  ezmlm-make: illegal option -- e
  ezmlm-make: usage: ezmlm-make [ -aApP ] dir dot local host

Is that specific to ezmlm-idx, which I may or may not have (there is no
sort of --version flag that I can find to determine for certain), or is
it simply not listed in the usage line (yes, I figure that it will take
more than just -e to have a hope of working)?

So then I read about the issubn command and the DIR/allow directory;
I'd do that by hand but I don't know that the manager will add new
subscribers to that dir (hmmm...  is allow a file instead?) as they
arrive.

I'm hosting on a managed server with other folks, and I can't just rip
out the existing ezmlm.  I know, though, that Dan's software likes to go
into predefined places :-)  If I do need to upgrade to ezmlm-idx, or even
if it's simply a Really Good Thing to do, is there any trick to compiling
and installing for an alternative dir (like, say, /usr/local/ezmlmidx)?
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peter green | 1 Jan 18:17 2003

Re: converting existing list to subscriber-only posting

* David T-G <davidtg <at> justpickone.org> [030101 09:05]:
> I have a couple of mailing lists that I'd like to convert from wide open
> to subscriber-only postings.  I took a look through the list archives and
> the FAQ and I think that something like
> 
>   ezmlm-make -e -moreoptions ...
> 
> would add moreoptions to an existing list, but my version doesn't support
> a -e:
> 
>   bash-2.05a$ ezmlm-make -e
>   ezmlm-make: illegal option -- e
>   ezmlm-make: usage: ezmlm-make [ -aApP ] dir dot local host
> 
> Is that specific to ezmlm-idx,

Yes.

> which I may or may not have (there is no
> sort of --version flag that I can find to determine for certain), or is

The fact that "[ -aApP ]" are the only options listed for ezmlm-make is
indicative that you do not have ezmlm-idx.

> if it's simply a Really Good Thing to do, is there any trick to compiling
> and installing for an alternative dir (like, say, /usr/local/ezmlmidx)?

Edit "conf-bin" in the ezmlm(-idx) source directory. Compile and install.
Voila!

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Peter van Dijk | 1 Jan 17:53 2003
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Re: converting existing list to subscriber-only posting

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:03:51AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
[snip]
> would add moreoptions to an existing list, but my version doesn't support
> a -e:
> 
>   bash-2.05a$ ezmlm-make -e
>   ezmlm-make: illegal option -- e
>   ezmlm-make: usage: ezmlm-make [ -aApP ] dir dot local host
> 
> Is that specific to ezmlm-idx, which I may or may not have (there is no
> sort of --version flag that I can find to determine for certain), or is
> it simply not listed in the usage line (yes, I figure that it will take
> more than just -e to have a hope of working)?

As far as I know, ezmlm without idx does not even do moderation, and
your ezmlm-make does not seem to have been patched with -idx.

> So then I read about the issubn command and the DIR/allow directory;
> I'd do that by hand but I don't know that the manager will add new
> subscribers to that dir (hmmm...  is allow a file instead?) as they
> arrive.

With plain ezmlm, that won't help :)

> I'm hosting on a managed server with other folks, and I can't just rip
> out the existing ezmlm.  I know, though, that Dan's software likes to go
> into predefined places :-)  If I do need to upgrade to ezmlm-idx, or even
> if it's simply a Really Good Thing to do, is there any trick to compiling
> and installing for an alternative dir (like, say, /usr/local/ezmlmidx)?
> As long as all of my dotfiles are updated to point to the new programs, I
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David T-G | 2 Jan 03:43 2003

Re: converting existing list to subscriber-only posting

Peter & Peter, et al --

...and then David T-G said...
% 
...
% Is that specific to ezmlm-idx, which I may or may not have (there is no
% sort of --version flag that I can find to determine for certain), or is

The general consensus is that I don't have it, that I do need it, and
that it should be no problem to put it wherever I want.  So off I go :-)

Thanks & HAND & HNY

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Tedd Maynard | 2 Jan 21:52 2003

modifying headers for outgoing messages

Hello all,

I've read the documentation, mailing lists, and did a google and can't find 
the answer.  Maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.  If so, please beat 
me senseless.

Is there a way to alter the "To:" address for outgoing messages instead of 
the mailing list name?  For clarity:  When someone receives an email from 
the list, instead of having the mailing list name in the "To:" field, can 
it have their own email address like a normal email?

The list is for a government agency and the emails are going out to "normal 
people."  They want the email to appear more "personalized" as opposed to a 
mailing list.  In fact, they don't want any obvious traces of mailing list 
software in the To: or From: fields.

Any help is appreciated?

Regards

tedd

David T-G | 2 Jan 22:08 2003

Re: converting existing list to subscriber-only posting

Hi again, all --

...and then David T-G said...
% 
% The general consensus is that I don't have it, that I do need it, and
% that it should be no problem to put it wherever I want.  So off I go :-)

In fact, I do have it; for some strange reason I have ezmlm standard in
/usr/local/bin and ezmlm-idx in /usr/local/ezmlm.  So I've shrugged my
shoulders, updated my various files to point appropriately, and should
still *now* be able to convert to subscriber-only posting.

And so we're back to my original question...  Any pointers?

Thanks & HAND & HNY

:-D
--

-- 
David T-G                      * There is too much animal courage in 
(play) davidtg <at> justpickone.org * society and not sufficient moral courage.
(work) davidtgwork <at> justpickone.org  -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science and Health"
http://justpickone.org/davidtg/      Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!

Caffeinate The World | 2 Jan 22:58 2003
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restricting number of posts per day

is it possible to limit posts per day from time a to time b?

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Caffeinate The World | 3 Jan 05:40 2003
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Re: restricting number of posts per day


--- mw-list-ezmlm <at> csi.hu wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:58:22PM -0800, Caffeinate The World wrote:
> > is it possible to limit posts per day from time a to time b?
> 
> If you want to do it for all lists, the simplest is to 
> 
> chmod +t
> 
> on the home dir at time a (run a cron job to do this), and at time b
> run
> 
> chmod -t
> 
> Otherwise, the cronjob should insert, at time a,
> 
> | exit 111
> 
> on the top of DIR/editor, and remove this at time b.

I guess I wasn't clear in my original post. I wanted to restrict say 2
message per subscribed user per day from time A to time B.

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Chris Johnson | 3 Jan 16:42 2003
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Re: modifying headers for outgoing messages

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:52:13PM -0500, Tedd Maynard wrote:
> Is there a way to alter the "To:" address for outgoing messages instead of 
> the mailing list name?  For clarity:  When someone receives an email from 
> the list, instead of having the mailing list name in the "To:" field, can 
> it have their own email address like a normal email?

Look on http://www.qmail.org/top.html for the "qmail-verh" patch.

Chris

mw-list-ezmlm | 3 Jan 00:13 2003
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Re: modifying headers for outgoing messages

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:51:51PM -0500, Tedd Maynard wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've read the documentation, mailing lists, and did a google and can't find 
> the answer.  Maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.  If so, please beat 
> me senseless.
> 
> Is there a way to alter the "To:" address for outgoing messages instead of 
> the mailing list name?  For clarity:  When someone receives an email from 
> the list, instead of having the mailing list name in the "To:" field, can 
> it have their own email address like a normal email?

You need the qmail-verh patch, and then use headeradd/headerremove.

Mate


Gmane