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Emile CARCAMO | 11 Jan 2011 15:09
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question about forwarding with -mime option ...


Hi,

	I've noticed recently that when I forward an email
	and type some french characters into the message
	body, those are not converted to 8bit when sending
	the mail.

	All the stuff in the forwarded area is just displayed
	correctly, but only the "top message" body shows
	up as quoted-printable.

	I'm running exmh-2.7.2 together with nmh-1.3 on a
	Fedora14 distro. Here's my profile file for nmh :

<dell540.wifi>[emile]<101>cat .mh_profile 
Header-Display: Resent From Subject To Cc Date
AliasFile: /users/emile/.mh_aliases
unseen-sequence: unseen
draft-folder: drafts
forw: -mime
Path: Mail
mhshow-show-application/x-gzip: /bin/cp %f /users/emile/.
<dell540.wifi>[emile]<102>

	Many thanks in advance for your help in solving this
	trouble. Regards,

-Émile
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Andy Bradford | 13 Jan 2011 02:32

Re: question about forwarding with -mime option ...

Thus said Emile CARCAMO on Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:09:08 +0100:

>  I've noticed  recently that  when I  forward an  email and  type some
>  french characters into  the message body, those are  not converted to
>  8bit when sending the mail.

Do you have a sample message that you can share?

Andy
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Emile CARCAMO | 13 Jan 2011 07:15
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Re: question about forwarding with -mime option ...


amb-sendok-1297474348.pejaeeekplmblhmlmaig <at> bradfords.org said:
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>  I've noticed  recently that  when I  forward an  email and  type some
>  french characters into  the message body, those are  not converted to
>  8bit when sending the mail.
> Do you have a sample message that you can share?
> Andy

Hi,

	Meanwhile I've found out what was causing that
	trouble : my 'locale' settings were in french instead
	of being set to 'C'. I also didn't forget this btw :

<satp20832.wifi>[emile]<101>env | grep iso 
LC_CTYPE=iso-8859-1
MM_CHARSET=iso-8859-1
<satp20832.wifi>[emile]<102>
<satp20832.wifi>[emile]<102>locale 
LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
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Irwin Tillman | 15 Jan 2011 23:56
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cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

When I upgraded tcl/tk from 8.5.7 to 8.5.9, cascaded menus no longer display
until I release the mouse button (while the mouse is over the name of the menu).

So if an exmh menu contains several cascaded menus (for example, the folder's
'More' menu), you can no longer simply move the mouse through that menu (with
the left button depressed) to view the items in each of the cascaded menus.
Instead, you must stop at each item and release the left button to cause that
cascaded menu to appear. To proceed to the another cascaded menu, you must then
depress the mouse button again, drag down to the next cascaded menu, then
release the mouse button again.

This doesn't seem to be an exmh issue; it seems to be Tk.

Looking through Tk ChangeLog and bug reports, I can't determine if this is a
Tk bug or if it is a new feature introduced in Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9. If it's a
new Tk behavior, is there a change I can make in exmh to restore the old cascaded
menu behavior?

Platform:
exmh version 2.7.2 pulled Jan 7 2011 from http://exmh.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/exmh/exmh/
Tcl/Tk 8.5.9
Solaris 9 & 10
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Harvey Eneman | 16 Jan 2011 04:31
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

Hi Irwin,

FWIW, I have confirmed that this does not appear to be an issue on:

  Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 8)

or on:

  Mac OS X 10.6.6

Regards,

Harv
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Subject: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)
Date: 2011-01-15 22:56:55 GMT
When I upgraded tcl/tk from 8.5.7 to 8.5.9, cascaded menus no longer display
until I release the mouse button (while the mouse is over the name of the menu).

So if an exmh menu contains several cascaded menus (for example, the folder's
'More' menu), you can no longer simply move the mouse through that menu (with
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Valdis.Kletnieks | 17 Jan 2011 21:49
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:31:43 PST, Harvey Eneman said:

> FWIW, I have confirmed that this does not appear to be an issue on:
> 
>   Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 8)

That's because RHEL 4.8 still uses tk 8.4.7. I'm fairly sure that it's a
behavior change in Tk 8.5.9, as 8.5.8 didn't do that on Fedora.  My
guess is it's related to this Tk bug filed against 8.5.9:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3152603&group_id=12997&atid=112997

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Valdis.Kletnieks | 17 Jan 2011 22:14
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:56:55 EST, Irwin Tillman said:
> When I upgraded tcl/tk from 8.5.7 to 8.5.9, cascaded menus no longer display
> until I release the mouse button (while the mouse is over the name of the menu).
> 
> So if an exmh menu contains several cascaded menus (for example, the folder's
> 'More' menu), you can no longer simply move the mouse through that menu (with
> the left button depressed) to view the items in each of the cascaded menus.
> Instead, you must stop at each item and release the left button to cause that
> cascaded menu to appear. To proceed to the another cascaded menu, you must then
> depress the mouse button again, drag down to the next cascaded menu, then
> release the mouse button again.

Correction - this is the applicable bug entry against Tk 8.5.9.  Flagged as "fixed in 8.6",
which is already at 8.6b2 or so...

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2949774&group_id=12997&atid=112997


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Harvey Eneman | 18 Jan 2011 02:26
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

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> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:31:43 PST, Harvey Eneman said:
> 
> > FWIW, I have confirmed that this does not appear to be an issue on:
> > 
> >   Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 8)
> 
> That's because RHEL 4.8 still uses tk 8.4.7.

But as I used tcl/tk 8.5.9, this issue does appear to be Solaris specific.

Harv
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Valdis.Kletnieks | 18 Jan 2011 23:36
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:26:20 PST, Harvey Eneman said:

> >
> > On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:31:43 PST, Harvey Eneman said:
> > 
> > > FWIW, I have confirmed that this does not appear to be an issue on:
> > > 
> > >   Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 (Nahant Update 8)
> > 
> > That's because RHEL 4.8 still uses tk 8.4.7.
> 
> But as I used tcl/tk 8.5.9, this issue does appear to be Solaris specific.

If it's Solaris specific, why am I seeing it on my laptop running Fedora
Rawhide (what will be Fedora 15)? :)

I wonder if it's config/build environment specific, and Solaris and Rawhide
have something set differently from RHEL4.


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Harvey Eneman | 18 Jan 2011 23:53
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Re: cascaded menus no longer display until mouse is released (Tk 8.5.8 or 8.5.9 change?)

Valdis.Kletnieks <at> vt.edu said:
> If it's Solaris specific, why am I seeing it on my laptop running Fedora
> Rawhide (what will be Fedora 15)? :)

Well, if you're seeing the same behavior on Linux that Irwin reported, then 
it is not Solaris specific.  As I can not reproduce the issue on my Linux
or Mac, I really cannot help debug the issue further.
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