Ken Hornstein | 19 May 2013 01:35
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Re: nmh dependence on metamail

>OK. Your response helped. I think the reason metamail appears to be required is
>mhn.defaults looks like this
>----------
>#: $Debian: nmh/debian/mhn.defaults,v 1.2 2001/11/08 22:35:00 dsp Exp $
>#:
>mhshow-show-application: %p/usr/bin/metamail -b -p -c 'application/%s' '%F'
>mhshow-show-audio: %p/usr/bin/metamail -b -d -p -c 'audio/%s' -p '%F'
>mhshow-show-image: %p/usr/bin/metamail -b -d -p -c 'image/%s' -p '%F'
>mhshow-show-video: %p/usr/bin/metamail -b -d -p -c 'video/%s' -p '%F'
>mhshow-show-text/html: %p/usr/bin/metamail -b -d -p -c 'text/html' -p '%F'

So ... I don't know who user dsp is, but I will note that according to
the RCS keyword that file is over 12 years old.  The current one doesn't
look anything like that now.  And as far as I can tell, nmh has never
put a reference to metamail in any of it's releases.

--Ken
Julian H. Stacey | 25 Mar 2013 18:17
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How to convert from quoted printable enclosures with Reply button ?

Hi exmh-users <at> redhat.com
I want to auto convert quoted printable enclosures from the  Reply
button, so I don't have to manually cean the = mess with vi,,
I don't know how [best, or at all?] to do that ?

- A sendmail issue ? Convert all hated (*) quoted-printable enclosures 
  received at my host before nmh & exmh even display them ?.
- An exmh issue ? Give a directive to nmh to run eg: demime or emil
  on quoted printable enclosure[s] on Reply ?
  - demime: http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html
  - emil:   http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/mail/emil/Makefile?view=markup
- Or just some nmh config option ?

I've been reading various sendmail & NMH manuals & config files etc,
but not found an answer.  Your ideas please ? even if RTFM URL#....

I'm using exmh-2.7.2_3 nmh-1.2_3 FreeBSD-8.2 ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.4
(& also have FreeBSD-9.1, exmh-2.7.2_5 nmh-1.3 ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.5)

PS (*) ( Quoted-printable has been a real pain,
   On majordomo aliases on servers I extended pipes with
	"|/usr/local/bin/demime -8 -|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper ...
   which solved many problems with people sending [un]subscribe
   commands in HTML, & maybe solved some but not all quoted-printable
   (... maybe it solved just those specifing quoted-printable
   in MIME enclosure & not in total mail header or vice versa ...
   which may be an issue too for EXMH ? ))
PPS Don't want to discuss majordomo V mailman, done elsewhere.

Cheers,
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Kevin Oberman | 5 Jan 2013 08:37
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nmh-1.5 working for anyone

I updated nmh to 1.5 today and exmh broke rather badly. First, it
insisted that I manually add a From: to the header instead of using my
address. (I can probably fix this by editing components.) But even
then, it bombed when attempting ot send the message saying that the
remote system would not accept it.

I have rolled it back 1.3 and it is working again, but I am not yet
sure if the problem is in exmh or nmh. (No, I have not even looked at
the nmh release notes, so I'll admit to laziness (or the desire to get
to bed).
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R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
E-mail: kob6558 <at> gmail.com
John Meissen | 2 Nov 2012 17:53
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Re: SPAM???


I think it's coming through the list. I get list messages in digest form, and 
they're in the digest.

john-

exmh-users-request <at> redhat.com said:
> It looks like someone harvested email addresses from the list and I'm  getting
> a LOT of spam containing my original subject line.  Anyone  else see this too?
> 
Chris Siebenmann | 18 May 2012 15:56
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Controlling the XFT fonts that exmh uses for message display?

 I'm considering switching my exmh to use XFT fonts (via switching to
tk8.5), in part to match the rest of my X environment and in part to get
better Unicode font support (I'm very used to my old X bitmap fonts, but
they are behind the times).

 The choice of what fonts to use when for MIME messages is normally
controlled by the *mime_<charset>_<type>_families: resources in
exmh-defaults, eg '*mime_iso-8859-1_plain_families' (and then the
starting size is set with *mimeFontSize). So normally I might just
set some face names in those resources.

 However, looking at the code in lib/mime.tcl's Mime_GetFont() (which
actually does the lookup) suggests that this isn't going to work; its
implementation seems very strongly tied to XLFD font names. Run on a
tk8.5 that supports XFT fonts and not XLFD fonts, I expect it to fail
entirely and give me only (at best) whatever *Msg*font is set to (or the
XFT 'fixed' by default). This seems less than ideal, especially for MIME
types that want a proportional font or different font sizes.

 Has anyone dealt with this issue and gotten exmh to use XFT fonts
well for message display, or am I barking up the wrong tree here?

(Or is this something that I should really ask on exmh-devel instead?)

	- cks
PS: In theory one could revise Mime_GetFont() et al to do an XFT-based
font specification and font lookup if TK is XFT-capable, but this sort
of change is probably beyond my TCL/TK/XFT coding capabilities right
now. If I got something working it would probably not look very well.
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Welch, Brent | 24 Apr 2012 22:24
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FW: error exmh 2.8.0 04/21/2012

I'm not in a good position to look at the code behind this error (at a conference with spotty network
connectivity).  Perhaps the jcl-beautify code has an old reference to lassign?

The best, long term solution is to convert to "lassign" as defined in Tcl 8.5, and if there is an earlier
version of Tcl in use, just define an lassign that matches the 8.5 semantics and argument lists.

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Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Emile CARCAMO [mailto:emile.carcamo <at> bull.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:52 AM
To: Welch, Brent
Subject: error exmh 2.8.0 04/21/2012

 Hi Brent,
As promised here is the stack trace I've got with the
exmh very first run I've did when trying out version 2.8.0
Regards,
-Emile

Tue Apr 24 18:52:14 CEST 2012
emile got an error
Exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012
TK version 8.5.11
TCL version 8.5.11
Linux satl755.wifi 3.3.2-8.fc17.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Apr 21 12:34:01 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

can't read "qt_cnt": no such variable
    while executing
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Emile CARCAMO | 24 Apr 2012 19:45
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Feedback about exmh new version 2.8.0


Dear List Members,

	Well ... I've reinstalled 2.8.0 version from the tarball
	which I've found on the CVS repository.

	I've run the installer stuff and clicked on the tclIndex
	button prior doing the install thing (as Ken Hornstein
	suggested). No progress ...

	Then when launching exmh I get the errors about
	exmh_lassign usage ==> I've sent the report to Mr.
	Brent Welch as he asked me to do so ...

	Meanwhile, I've fixed my remaining troubles in a lazzy
	way ;-) Have a look :

-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 29463 Apr 24 18:49 ispell.tcl-2.8.0
-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 46674 Apr 22 21:12 addr.tcl-2.8.0
-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 29509 Nov 30  2009 ispell.tcl
-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 29509 Nov 30  2009 ispell.tcl-2.7.2
-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 46355 Nov 30  2009 addr.tcl
-rw-r--r-- 1 emile carcamo 46355 Nov 30  2009 addr.tcl-2.7.2
<dell540.wifi>[lib]<108>pwd
/usr/local/exmh-2.8.0/lib
<dell540.wifi>[lib]<109>

	So the spelling check works again and no more pb.
	with saving the address database taking too long :

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reg | 23 Apr 2012 07:46

Another problem to look at.


Here is another problem that should be looked at, and that has not
been mentioned in the last week of notes about EXMH.

If the number of articles in a give directory get to 32k (or mabe 65k)
the initial startup of EXMH just stalls when it gets to this group.
And its easy to get these large number of articles in groups like gnu.
Im sure it is just the width of some field somewhere, but Ive never
been able to find it.
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                                        Reg.Clemens
                                        reg <at> dwf.com
Emile CARCAMO | 22 Apr 2012 22:07
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Feedback about exmh new version 2.8.0


Dead All,

	I've given it a try on a "non production" machine and
	I've installed the stuff as I did so many times. Nothing
	particular to notice, except some details I've listed for
	you below :

- to avoid troubles with msgShow.tcl, I had to replace all occurences
of exmh_lassign by lassign like it was the case wirh version 2.7.2 :

   	21:34	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' html.tcl
   	21:34	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' html_formtag.tcl
   	21:34	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' html_get_http.tcl
   	21:34	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' html_links.tcl
   	21:34	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' msgShow.tcl
   	21:35	sed -i 's/exmh_lassign/lassign/g' utils.tcl

Below a list of files impacted with this change I did ... Note that I'm
using tcl/tk version 8.5 on a Fedora 16 distro.

- I also noticed that saving address database was taking forever ...
and was always run with a short time interval between 2 consecutive
runs. Since I'm not a tcl-tk guru at all, I've simply taken back the good
old /usr/local/exmh-2.7.2-CVS/lib/addr.tcl to replace the 2.8.0 version.

	Apart of these 2 troubles, I didn't notice anything bad so far.
	Thanks again and again to all those who pushed hard to get
	this new version in the field so quickly. With best regards,

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Steve Platt | 16 Apr 2012 15:43
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exmh with imap?


Sorry to use offencive language in the subject line but for what might be the 
last time (for me) may I ask if anyone knows of working solutions to allow 
exmh to access an IMAP mail store?

I'm aware of (but not yet tried) an nmh feature that will fetch new mail using 
POP (and our Dovecot IMAP store does have a popd) but I don't suppose that 
exmh using POP can handle the rest of my folders (can it?).

Thanks in advance,
Steve Platt
Kevin Cosgrove | 16 Apr 2012 06:25
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Aging Dependencies?

Hiya,

Anyone heard of plans regarding what to do about aging
dependencies for exmh?  I'm trying to bring a Fedora 16 machine
up to capable, which includes installing exmh.  I can live
without faces, especially now that Outlook 2010 finally has
faces -- how many decades has it taken them to catch up, er, uh
innovate?

I found metamail for Fedora 16 on-line, maybe it was at pkgs.net?

expectk has been dropped by the author(s) of expect, as of
version 5.45, in lieu of tclsh run in the right way ("Please use
tclsh with package require Tk and Expect instead of expectk").
But, Fedora 14 has expectk and I'm going to package it in a way
so I can get a functional expectk executable and support for
that, but without conflicting with the Fedora 16 expectk package,
which oddly no longer contains expectk.

FWIW, I'm doing all this with an exmh CVS download with the
newest component dated 2012-01-23, if that's important.

Cheerio....

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Kevin

Gmane