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Sun Zoom Spark | 1 Sep 2008 11:01
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NEWS: Monthly Reminder (September 2008)

===================== ACCMAIL Monthly Reminder =======================

Posted 01 Sep 2008
This message tells you how to use accmail`AT`listserv.aol.com
the mailing list discussing 'Accessing the Internet via Email'.

 1. Purpose
 2. Conventions
 3. The ACCMAIL FAQ: a guide to offline internet access
 4. Usenet
 5. Posting to ACCMAIL: language
 6. Posting to ACCMAIL: subject lines
 7. Posting to ACCMAIL: off-topic
 8. Posting to ACCMAIL: netiquette
 9. Receiving ACCMAIL: digest and single postings
10. ACCMAIL topics
11. ACCMAIL archives and search
12. www4mail at szs.net

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1. PURPOSE

This list exists as a forum for communicating news, comments and
questions about email-only methods of accessing the Internet.

This is the place to find out about new versions, ask questions
about the current version, make suggestions for additions/deletions,
etc.

ACCMAIL is a moderated list, which means that all postings will be
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Damian V.B. | 7 Sep 2008 09:53
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Problem retrieving files with www4mail

Hello, I have this problem with www4mail. While trying to download
some specific files, the server return the file, but with appended
extension ".ASC"  (ascii?) and the content is corrupted by CR's and
LF's ....I have been using www4mail services for years, and sometimes
this problem happen.....
I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats
binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please !
also,  I want to thank so much to all that supports this service...

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sun zoom spark | 9 Sep 2008 15:46
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

Hello Damian :

On 7 Sep 2008 at 9:53, Damian V.B. wrote:
> Hello, I have this problem with www4mail. While trying to download
> some specific files, the server return the file, but with appended
> extension ".ASC"  (ascii?) and the content is corrupted by CR's and
> LF's ....I have been using www4mail services for years, and sometimes
> this problem happen.....
> I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats
> binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please !
> also,  I want to thank so much to all that supports this service...

Can you give us an example?
The URL of a file which causes this to happen?

::: SZS :::

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Lena from Kiev | 8 Sep 2008 06:55
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

> I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats
> binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please !

Use XUUENCODE command.

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Damian V.B. | 16 Sep 2008 09:11
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Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 7 Sep 2008 to 9 Sep 2008 (#2008-56)

Hello,
well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this
problem... (I worried about this)
For example, try this url... is a small file (is the language
translations file for the very good and free playstation 2 media
player)

http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar

oh, and I have tested with XUUENCODE and same result.
The file always returns with " .asc "

Thanks so much for the support !!  ....

On 9/10/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <LISTSERV@...> wrote:
> There are 2 messages totalling 54 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>  1. Problem retrieving files with www4mail (2)
>
> Hello Damian :
>
> On 7 Sep 2008 at 9:53, Damian V.B. wrote:
> > Hello, I have this problem with www4mail. While trying to download
> > some specific files, the server return the file, but with appended
> > extension ".ASC"  (ascii?) and the content is corrupted by CR's and
> > LF's ....I have been using www4mail services for years, and sometimes
> > this problem happen.....
> > I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats
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sun zoom spark | 16 Sep 2008 13:59
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

On 16 Sep 2008 at 8:11, Damian V.B. wrote:
> well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this
> problem... (I worried about this)
> For example, try this url...
> http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar
> The file always returns with " .asc "

Damian is right about this!
I have never noticed this before.
Is it only '.rar' files that cause this problem?

I have had a quick look at the Perl source code and
configuration files, and have found no clues. The
string '.asc' does not appear anywhere! I guess the
cause might be outside the www4mail script -- perhaps
an operating system side-effect (the OS is Debian).

I have given this problem top priority for a fix, but
I cannot say when that fix might happen. Sun Zoom
Spark is *very* busy right now!

Does anyone else have any ideas?
Any Linux specialists on board?

::: SZS :::

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Albert Reiner | 16 Sep 2008 14:26
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:59:07PM +0100, sun zoom spark wrote:
> > http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar
> > The file always returns with " .asc "
...
> Does anyone else have any ideas?
> Any Linux specialists on board?

Certainly not a specialist, but I used to do quite a bit of Perl on 
Linux a couple of years ago.  So if you send me the code, or a pointer 
to it in an easily accessible location, I might have a look at it.  No
promises, though!

Regards,

Albert.

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sun zoom spark | 17 Sep 2008 00:26
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

On 16 Sep 2008 at 14:26, Albert Reiner wrote:
> Certainly not a specialist, but I used to do quite a bit of Perl on 
> Linux a couple of years ago.  So if you send me the code, or a pointer 
> to it in an easily accessible location, I might have a look at it.  No
> promises, though!

Thanks Albert!

I have sent Albert an URL for the zipped Perl
source used by www4mail`at`szs.net.

If anyone else would like to test themselves
against this complex and undocumented code,
please email me off-list.

Be warned --
* there are 1181 files in the system;
* you have no chance of understanding it
  unless you have programmed professionally
  in Perl or a similar language.

However, it is possible that the cause of this
problem does not lie in the code, but in the
interaction between the code and the Debian OS.

::: SZS :::

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Damian V.B. | 17 Sep 2008 08:48
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Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 9 Sep 2008 to 16 Sep 2008 (#2008-57)

I am willing to collaborate in whatever it is to find the cause of
this strange problem.
Unfortunately I do not have any experience on perl, I have seen the
sources and the code is really complex ...

On 9/17/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <LISTSERV@...> wrote:
> There are 4 messages totalling 193 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>  1. ACCMAIL Digest - 7 Sep 2008 to 9 Sep 2008 (#2008-56)
>  2. Problem retrieving files with www4mail (3)
>
> Hello,
> well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this
> problem... (I worried about this)
> For example, try this url... is a small file (is the language
> translations file for the very good and free playstation 2 media
> player)
>
> http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar
>
> oh, and I have tested with XUUENCODE and same result.
> The file always returns with " .asc "
>
> Thanks so much for the support !!  ....
>
> On 9/10/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <LISTSERV@...> wrote:
> > There are 2 messages totalling 54 lines in this issue.
> >
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Lena from Kiev | 17 Sep 2008 07:40
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Re: Problem retrieving files with www4mail

> I have tested with XUUENCODE and same result.

Try:

xuuencode
xget http://...

Worked for me (I used www4mail for the last time in 2004).

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