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Elisa Manara | 1 Jul 2005 10:57

Re: cone crash - bt attached

Sam Varshavchik writes:

>> Something wicked happens when I attempt to read a 
>> message and simultaneously Cone has to manage newly arrived e-mails.
> 
> See if you can reproduce the crash after applying the following patch.
[...]

Well, it seems to work fine up till now.
Thanks :)

Elisa. 

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mess-mate | 4 Jul 2005 16:25
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sendmail and cone

Hi,
i've installed cone to testing it.
My imap-server=courier, sendmail from postfix.
On the setup of cone i lived the smtp empty, so normally ( as the
doc said) the /usr/bin/sendmail (from my postfix) is usd, do it ?
Well it don't !!
How can i force cone using my own sendmail ?
Thanks in advance for your help.

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Robert G. Brown | 4 Jul 2005 18:14
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Re: Cone 20050629

Sam Varshavchik writes:

> Download: http://www.courier-mta.org/download.php#cone
> 
> Additional enhancements to URL activation features.
> 
> • Activate URLs in HTML messages.  Handle mailto: URLs internally, pass http 
> and https URLs to firefox or mozilla.
> 
> • Identify likely http/https/mailto: URLs in text/plain content.  Identify 
> URLs in RFC 2369 headers.
> 
> • The default http/https URL handler searches PATH for a program called 
> “firefox”, or “mozilla”, in order to activate http/https URLs.  If it should 
> also look for something else (but what else could possibly be there?) now is 
> the time to submit a patch.
> 
> 

Great.  The previous "usability" patch (N/P up and down in list view)
and this URL viewer patch are lovely and work fine.  A suggestion for
the latter -- instead of doing firefox, mozilla in that order (which de
facto presumes that a computer has only one user since it looks at what
is INSTALLED and not what the user would prefer) -- make the browser
that is spawned a "setup" entry just like "editor".

That would make folks like me who still use galeon because it is still
better at the interface level than either firefox OR mozilla happy, and
would even let netscape users etc join in the fun.  I hacked the .in
script in obvious ways to look for galeon, firefox, mozilla in that
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Robert G. Brown | 5 Jul 2005 18:40
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Re: Cone 20050629

Another usability/efficiency suggestion for cone.

If one is writing a longish email in an external editor, it is pretty
easy to have cone disconnected when you save and try to send.  I do this
four or five times a day, or so it seems.  I have then learned from
experience that you then have to ritually:

  Press return (to reconnect)
  Press W (to ask to "write" a message)
  Press Y (to agree to "continue" working on the message you just tried
to send, assuming it is the only one that is pending)
  Press ^X to send the message

to actually send the message (which might be something you don't want
delayed indefinitely) before you can resume workflow.  

That's a lot of extra work for something that is completely unnecessary
and that can happen several times a day times as many users of cone as
there end up being.  It also creates a completely unnecessary risk that
an important message is delayed indefinitely because a user doesn't
realize that they have to work through this ritual or just forgets to do
so to actually get the pending mail to go out.

I think it is pretty safe to assume that cone users want to connect when
they press ^X to send the message in the first place, if they aren't
(still) connected.  Send implies connect without exception, if
connection is a requirement for sending and a halted connection exists.
Cone should thus reconnect and send in this situation and then pop them
back into whatever state they were in when they began the message --
working through the mail folder they were working on right when they hit
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Sam Varshavchik | 5 Jul 2005 18:59
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Re: Cone 20050629

Robert G. Brown writes:

> I'm not entirely certain what the motivation is for disconnecting cone
> at all on a timeout (thirty minute or otherwise), BTW.  I've always

It's not Cone that's disconnecting.  It's the remote server that's 
disconnecting for inactivity.

There's nothing that can be done about that.
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Sam Varshavchik | 6 Jul 2005 15:32
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Cone 0.65 released.

Download: http://www.courier-mta.org/download.php#cone

Changes since release 0.64:

• Overload "Undelete" key to mark a message that's already not deleted as 
unread.

• "S" in message view is a shortcut to save the message into a file

• "N"/"P" in folder view are aliases for cursor down/up.

• Activate URLs in HTML messages.  Handle mailto: URLs internally, pass http 
and https URLs to firefox or mozilla.

• Identify likely http/https/mailto: URLs in text/plain content.  Identify 
URLs in RFC 2369 headers.
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Dmitry G. Golub | 6 Jul 2005 16:05
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How about UTF? (was: Cone 0.65 released)


On 06.07.2005 19:32:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Changes since release 0.64:
> 
> • Overload "Undelete" key to mark a message that's already not  
> deleted as unread.
> 
> • "S" in message view is a shortcut to save the message into a file
> 
> • "N"/"P" in folder view are aliases for cursor down/up.
> 
> • Activate URLs in HTML messages.  Handle mailto: URLs internally,  
> pass http and https URLs to firefox or mozilla.
> 
> • Identify likely http/https/mailto: URLs in text/plain content.   
> Identify URLs in RFC 2369 headers.
>

Great!

Can I make a humble wish?

My current charset is UTF-8, and Cone (AFAIK) it doesn't support it.  
How about UTF support in Cone? Currently I'm forced to use Balsa.

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Sam Varshavchik | 6 Jul 2005 16:33
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Re: How about UTF? (was: Cone 0.65 released)

Dmitry G. Golub writes:

> 
> On 06.07.2005 19:32:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> 
>> • Identify likely http/https/mailto: URLs in text/plain content.   
>> Identify URLs in RFC 2369 headers.
>>
> 
> Great!
> 
> Can I make a humble wish?
> 
> My current charset is UTF-8, and Cone (AFAIK) it doesn't support it.  

Of course it does.  You replied to an UTF-8 message.  This is a UTF-8 
message also.

You just need to install the wide character version of curses.
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