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Mikael Böök | 1 Feb 17:02
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt,.docx again?


It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) 
laptop, where I have installed alpine under ubuntulinux 10.0, is 
every now and then being replaced by a procedure I do not control, and 
thus, without my knowledge. As a consequence, the lines I have added to my 
/etc/mailcap in order to make Alpine open Libre Office, when it recognizes 
a .doc or an .odt , disappear.
What is going on here? 
Mikael

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Mikael Book wrote:

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> Thanks, Mirko, for your advice.
>
> My  /etc/mailcap had no lines about .doc, .docx and .odt so I added the 
> following three lines:
>
> application/MSWORD; /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s'; "$DISPLAY"
> application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document 
> /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s';$
> application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text; /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter 
> '%s'; "$DISPLAY"
>
> It works for .doc and .odt, but not for .docx. But that's not Alpine's fault, 
> I guess.
>
> Mikael
>
>
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Benjamin R. Haskell | 1 Feb 17:25
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt,.docx again?

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mikael Böök wrote:

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> It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) 
> laptop, where I have installed alpine under ubuntulinux 10.0, is every 
> now and then being replaced by a procedure I do not control, and thus, 
> without my knowledge. As a consequence, the lines I have added to my 
> /etc/mailcap in order to make Alpine open Libre Office, when it 
> recognizes a .doc or an .odt , disappear.
> What is going on here? Mikael

To avoid the issue altogether, you can add mailcap items to ~/.mailcap 
(.mailcap in your HOME directory)

Presumably, when you install software that has mailcap entries, the 
system is regenerating /etc/mailcap from some list of all system-wide 
mailcap entries.  Possibly, it's just ported over from MIME type 
entries.  And, there may even be something in the /etc/mailcap comments 
which describes what process is overwriting it.

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-- 
Best,
Ben
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Mirko Hessel-von Molo | 1 Feb 17:49
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt,.docx again?

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mikael Böök wrote:

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> It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) laptop,
> where I have installed alpine under ubuntulinux 10.0, is every now and then
> being replaced by a procedure I do not control, and thus, without my
> knowledge. As a consequence, the lines I have added to my /etc/mailcap in
> order to make Alpine open Libre Office, when it recognizes a .doc or an .odt ,
> disappear.
> What is going on here? Mikael

My first shot: this is the normal Ubuntu update-mime routine called
whenever any application is installed, updated or changed in any other way
which may be used in mime-attachment handling (so this may be about any
file-handling application).  It takes the right to freely change contents
of /etc/mailcap, _except_ what is contained between the lines

# ----- User Section Begins ----- #

and 

# -----  User Section Ends  ----- #

So I do my personal, but system-wide configuration between these lines,
and update-mime respects it. As these are in the beginning of the file,
they should take precedence over what may be contained later on. 

Hope this helps, 

Mirko
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Hugh Sasse | 1 Feb 19:18
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt,.docx again?


On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mikael Böök wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) laptop,
> > where I have installed alpine under ubuntulinux 10.0, is every now and then
> > being replaced by a procedure I do not control, and thus, without my
> > knowledge. As a consequence, the lines I have added to my /etc/mailcap in
> > order to make Alpine open Libre Office, when it recognizes a .doc or an .odt ,
> > disappear.
> > What is going on here? Mikael
> 
> My first shot: this is the normal Ubuntu update-mime routine called
> whenever any application is installed, updated or changed in any other way
> which may be used in mime-attachment handling (so this may be about any
> file-handling application).  It takes the right to freely change contents
> of /etc/mailcap, _except_ what is contained between the lines
> 
> # ----- User Section Begins ----- #
> 
> and 
> 
> # -----  User Section Ends  ----- #
> 
> So I do my personal, but system-wide configuration between these lines,

I don't think that means anything :-).  It can't be personal and system
wide.  From experience of other Unix systems, this sort of thing in an
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Lucio Chiappetti | 2 Feb 10:05
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt, .docx again?

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mikael B????k wrote:

>> It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) 
>> laptop, [...] is every now and then being replaced

> To avoid the issue altogether, you can add mailcap items to ~/.mailcap 
> (.mailcap in your HOME directory)

You can even have MORE than one mailcap files (anywhere) and let alpine 
know of all of them (MSC or edit .pinerc for instance I have

Mailcap Search Path = ~/.mailcap:~/.mailcap.pine

There is also a Mimetype Search Path, which can be handled similarly

Just to remind, mailcap associates a MIME type to a viewer, while mimetype 
associates a file extension to a MIME type

e.g. if you want to handle a file DECLARED to be PDF (application/pdf) 
with e.g. acrobat or okular or xpdf, you edit mailcap.

If instead you want to make sure a file with termination .pdf is handled 
by those clients EVEN WHEN DECLARED SOMETHING ELSE, like e.g. 
octet-stream, then you edit mimetype.

As a security, alpine will ask you permission to start the client when 
using the extension to override the mime type
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Hugh Sasse | 2 Feb 11:04
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt,.docx again?


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On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Hugh Sasse wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mirko Hessel-von Molo wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012, Mikael Böök wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It seems that the /etc/mailcap which I have edited on my (personal) laptop,
> > > > where I have installed alpine under ubuntulinux 10.0, is every now and then
> > > > being replaced by a procedure I do not control, and thus, without my
> > > > knowledge. As a consequence, the lines I have added to my /etc/mailcap in
> > > > order to make Alpine open Libre Office, when it recognizes a .doc or an .odt ,
> > > > disappear.
> > > > What is going on here? Mikael
> > > 
> > > My first shot: this is the normal Ubuntu update-mime routine called
> > > whenever any application is installed, updated or changed in any other way
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Mikael Böök | 2 Feb 13:41
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Copy (Shift-Control-C)


Does Copy (Shift-Control-C) work in your alpine? In mine it does not. 
Nor can I mark a word or passage in a mail message for copying.

Mikael
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Mikael Böök | 2 Feb 13:45
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Re: How to make Alpine recognize .doc, .odt, .docx again?


Thanks again for your advice. I created ~/mailcap and stored the lines

application/MSWORD; /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s'; "$DISPLAY"
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text; /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s'; "$DISPLAY"
application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
/opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s';$
application/x-rtf /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter '%s'; "$DISPLAY"

there, and this helps, except for docx and rtf.

Mikael
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John Haverty | 2 Feb 15:36
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Re: Copy (Shift-Control-C)

Mikael,

Are you using Alpine on Windows, Linux, or Mac?  I use Alpine on Windows 
7 and Ctrl-Shift-C copies for me.  I did a quick check through the 
settings and I do not see anything that would re-map that setting or a 
setting that has to be checked.  It does work on mine though.

John

On 2/2/2012 6:41 AM, Mikael Böök wrote:
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> Does Copy (Shift-Control-C) work in your alpine? In mine it does not. 
> Nor can I mark a word or passage in a mail message for copying.
>
> Mikael
>
>
>
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Dan | 2 Feb 17:50
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Re: Copy (Shift-Control-C)

On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, John Haverty wrote:

> Are you using Alpine on Windows, Linux, or Mac?  I use Alpine on
> Windows 7 and Ctrl-Shift-C copies for me.  I did a quick check
> through the settings and I do not see anything that would re-map
> that setting or a setting that has to be checked.  It does work on
> mine though.

...and if it's Linux with X, you can copy to the X clipboard using
shift-left-button-drag, and paste from the X clipboard using
shift-middle-button.

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HTH,

Dan
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