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romkra | 1 May 2011 17:03
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Re: nAlPineForum: Sending (SMTP) Servers

M.RossARR wrote on Saturday, 2011-04-23:

> Problem 1:
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> Can multiple sending (SMTP) servers be setup for use like 
> multiple incoming servers are setup for use in a multiple email 
> account Pine/Alpine session?

I faced same/similar problems with the Sender Policy Framework 
(SPF) (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework). 
Some mail servers reject my GMX emails if I don't deliver them 
via an GMX SMTP server.

I handle this problem outside alpine with postfix. I let alpine 
deliver my emails to the local mail agent (postfix). That is also 
convenient when write emails while beeing offline. Postfix then 
delivers the outgoing emails to different SMTP-Servers, depending 
on the receivers address. There is a map for it 
(/etc/postfix/transport.map in my case). That looks about like 
this:

    # GMX will treat my ' <at> gmx.net' emails as spam if I don't
    # deliver them via an GMX smtp server. So let's use the GMX
    # servers for emails to GMX accounts:
    gmx.de               smtp:[mail.gmx.net]:submission
    gmx.net              smtp:[mail.gmx.net]:submission
    # and there is another one causing problems:
    problematic.com      smtp:[other.server.net]:submission

The standard SMTP-server ist configured somewhere else.
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Doug Barton | 1 May 2011 19:40
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Re: Alpine is Dead?


On 04/29/2011 14:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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| On Thursday, 2011-04-28 at 14:03 -0400, Joshua Miller wrote:
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|> Carlos... do you happen to be using S/MIME?
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| With Alpine, I can only do inline signing with gpg. And encrypting, but
| it is long since last time I used it.
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| With filter scripts "ppf_decrypt" and family, from Douglas Barton.
| Probably and old version.

Awesome! Always glad to hear from a happy user. :)  The code is pretty
stable, so if what you have is working for you, no problems. The latest
version is 1.8, FYI. More info here:

http://dougbarton.us/PGP/ppf/index.html

Doug

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vex | 9 May 2011 17:50
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"Document Request" and "alpine-count"

Hello all,

I searched on Google and this mailing list archive, but couldn't find the
explanation to this:

I have 3 messages stuck in my mailq looking like this:

From: hash_08298838@...
To: alpine-count@...
Subject: Document Request
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1105051008420.4165@...>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23)

Document request: Alpine-2.00 for New Users

(NOTE: ourdomain.com was put instead of the real domain)

Did users press something in Alpine to trigger this? We don't have any
users in form of hash_nnnnnnnn@..., why are they sending
anything to alpine-count@... and what do
"Subject: Document Request" and message body "Document request:
Alpine-2.00 for New Users" mean?

Thanks in advance for any kind of info and sorry if this was already
asked, as I said I didn't find much info using search.

Regards,
Velja
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Benjamin R. Haskell | 9 May 2011 19:42
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Re: "Document Request" and "alpine-count"

On Mon, 9 May 2011, vex@... wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I searched on Google and this mailing list archive, but couldn't find 
> the explanation to this:
>
> I have 3 messages stuck in my mailq looking like this:
>
> From: hash_08298838@...
> To: alpine-count@...
> Subject: Document Request
> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1105051008420.4165@...>
> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23)
>
> Document request: Alpine-2.00 for New Users
>
> (NOTE: ourdomain.com was put instead of the real domain)
>
> Did users press something in Alpine to trigger this? We don't have any 
> users in form of hash_nnnnnnnn@..., why are they sending 
> anything to alpine-count@... and
what do 
> "Subject: Document Request" and message body "Document request:
> Alpine-2.00 for New Users" mean?
>
> Thanks in advance for any kind of info and sorry if this was already 
> asked, as I said I didn't find much info using search.

This is part of PINE's phone_home routine that Alpine inherited.  If you
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Ole Jacobsen | 10 May 2011 19:23
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Password change won't stick


I had to change my password (forced every 6 months). On the next 
alpine session, alpine complains about wrong password, makes me
enter the correct one and then asks "Preserve for next login?"
to which I answer [Y] yes, but it still wants to go through this same
excercise and complains about the wrong password on the next start
of alpine.

How can I make this stick??

(It's alpine for Mac, version 2.01(1266) )

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
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Doug Barton | 10 May 2011 19:55
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Re: Password change won't stick

On 05/10/2011 10:23, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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> I had to change my password (forced every 6 months). On the next
> alpine session, alpine complains about wrong password, makes me
> enter the correct one and then asks "Preserve for next login?"
> to which I answer [Y] yes, but it still wants to go through this same
> excercise and complains about the wrong password on the next start
> of alpine.
>
> How can I make this stick??

Try deleting the contents of the password file (but not the file 
itself). It will likely be called either .pine.pwd or .alpine.pwd and be 
located in your home directory. Once you zero it out you should get the 
prompt to save the new password one more time, then it should stick.

hth,

Doug

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Ole Jacobsen | 10 May 2011 20:09
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Re: Password change won't stick


There is no such file in my home directory. Any other suggestions?

I have allowed KeyChain Access to store the new password (for the use 
of any app, including Mail.app), but that doesn't seem to make any 
difference.

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@...  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
Skype: organdemo

On Tue, 10 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote:

> On 05/10/2011 10:23, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> >
> > I had to change my password (forced every 6 months). On the next
> > alpine session, alpine complains about wrong password, makes me
> > enter the correct one and then asks "Preserve for next login?"
> > to which I answer [Y] yes, but it still wants to go through this same
> > excercise and complains about the wrong password on the next start
> > of alpine.
> >
> > How can I make this stick??
> 
> Try deleting the contents of the password file (but not the file itself). It
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Doug Barton | 10 May 2011 20:27
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Re: Password change won't stick

On 05/10/2011 11:09, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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> There is no such file in my home directory. Any other suggestions?

That's probably it then. The file has to exist before you start alpine. 
Try creating both files, then you can delete the one it doesn't use.

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Matt Ackeret | 10 May 2011 21:01
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Re: Password change won't stick

On Tue, 10 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 05/10/2011 11:09, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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>> There is no such file in my home directory. Any other suggestions?
>
> That's probably it then. The file has to exist before you start alpine. Try
> creating both files, then you can delete the one it doesn't use.

No, it doesn't use that at all on the Mac.  It uses the keychain, a
systemwide password storage system.

I don't know what the problem is.  If you open up Keychain Access 
(in /Applications/Utilities, cmd-shift-U in the Finder to get there quickly),
does it show an alpine password? search for alpine, then it looks like you have
to open the item to look at it.  I'm seeing a bunch of "UWash_Alpine"
passwords.

Maybe deleting them will fix it (seems unlikely to me).  Basically, I don't
know what the problem is, I'm just suggesting workarounds.

"works for me".
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Benjamin R. Haskell | 10 May 2011 21:04
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Re: Password change won't stick

On Tue, 10 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote:

> On 05/10/2011 11:09, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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>> There is no such file in my home directory. Any other suggestions?
>
> That's probably it then. The file has to exist before you start 
> alpine. Try creating both files, then you can delete the one it 
> doesn't use.

I don't have a Mac on which to test, but the OS X version of (Re)Alpine 
has some integration with KeyChain.  So, I think the passfile thing is a 
red herring.

The 2.01 release notes mention fixes for problems related to generic vs. 
specific hostnames (e.g. from the notes: imap.gmail.com vs. 
rx-in-209.google.com).  Using the latest?

Does KeyChain have anything that lets you see what's stored?  Maybe the 
update-password functionality from Alpine isn't working, but deleting 
the credentials (via another tool) would allow it to simply add it back 
in (since it apparently worked in the past).

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