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Jacob Wegelin | 1 Aug 2009 21:59
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Re: how to install newest Alpine


On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Matt Ackeret wrote: 
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> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Jacob Wegelin wrote:
> > I am running ALPINE 1.00 on my MacBook Pro with Mac OS 10.5.7.  How do I
> > upgrade to the newest Alpine?
> 
> There are prebuilt binaries on the site, as far as I remember.
> 
> But you can also simply download it and compile it and build it.
> Alpine is much easier to build than many other UNIX programs, IMHO, because
> you can move the binaries around after building them. 
> 
> There are instructions on the web site.
> 
> as far as I remember, you download it, cd into the folder, and do two 
> steps -- run the configure script and then tell it you're building for osx.
>

Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on a Mac? I am not experienced or confident
running "build." The first time I installed it, I typed

~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine

and it installed fine.  But this time when I tried that (after first quitting all applications including
alpine and then restarting the Mac), the following happened:

~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
Password:
Skipping org.macports.activate (alpine ) since this port is already active
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r d royar | 1 Aug 2009 23:02

Re: how to install newest Alpine

Sat, 1 Aug 2009 (15:59 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:

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> Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on a Mac? I 
> am not experienced or confident running "build." The first time I installed 
> it, I typed
>
> ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>
> and it installed fine.  But this time when I tried that (after first quitting 
> all applications including alpine and then restarting the Mac), the following 
> happened:
>
> ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
> Password:
> Skipping org.macports.activate (alpine ) since this port is already active
> --->  Cleaning alpine
> ~/Documents/tmp>
>
> Subsequently when I started Alpine, I was still in version 1.00.
[...]
>
> Thanks in advance for any easy sure-fire non-techie way to get the newest 
> version of Alpine working on my Mac.
>
> Jacob Wegelin

Try
% sudo port selfupdate
% sudo port upgrade alpine
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Jacob Wegelin | 2 Aug 2009 16:41
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Re: Re: how to install newest Alpine


On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, r d royar wrote:

> Sat, 1 Aug 2009 (15:59 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:
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>> 
>> Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on a Mac? 
>> I am not experienced or confident running "build." The first time I 
>> installed it, I typed
>> 
>> ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>> 
>> and it installed fine.  But this time when I tried that (after first 
>> quitting all applications including alpine and then restarting the Mac), 
>> the following happened:
>> 
>> ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>> Password:
>> Skipping org.macports.activate (alpine ) since this port is already active
>> --->  Cleaning alpine
>> ~/Documents/tmp>
>> 
>> Subsequently when I started Alpine, I was still in version 1.00.
> [...]
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any easy sure-fire non-techie way to get the newest 
>> version of Alpine working on my Mac.
>> 
>> Jacob Wegelin
>
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robert delius royar | 2 Aug 2009 17:45

Re: Re: how to install newest Alpine

Sun, 2 Aug 2009 (10:41 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:

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> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, r d royar wrote:
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>>  Sat, 1 Aug 2009 (15:59 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> >  Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on a 
>> >  Mac? I am not experienced or confident running "build." The first time I 
>> >  installed it, I typed
>> > 
>> >  ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>> > 
>> >  and it installed fine.  But this time when I tried that (after first 
>> >  quitting all applications including alpine and then restarting the Mac), 
>> >  the following happened:
>> > 
>> >  ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>> >  Password:
>> >  Skipping org.macports.activate (alpine ) since this port is already 
>> >  active
>> >  --->  Cleaning alpine
>> >  ~/Documents/tmp>
>> > 
>> >  Subsequently when I started Alpine, I was still in version 1.00.
>>  [...]
>> > 
>> >  Thanks in advance for any easy sure-fire non-techie way to get the 
>> >  newest version of Alpine working on my Mac.
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Jacob Wegelin | 2 Aug 2009 18:36
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Re: Re: how to install newest Alpine


On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, robert delius royar wrote:

> Sun, 2 Aug 2009 (10:41 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:
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>> 
>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, r d royar wrote:
>>
>>>  Sat, 1 Aug 2009 (15:59 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:
>>> 
>>> > >  Thank you. But is there not some more automatic way to install it on 
>>> a >  Mac? I am not experienced or confident running "build." The first 
>>> time I >  installed it, I typed
>>> > >  ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>>> > >  and it installed fine.  But this time when I tried that (after first 
>>> >  quitting all applications including alpine and then restarting the 
>>> Mac), >  the following happened:
>>> > >  ~/Documents/tmp> sudo port install alpine
>>> >  Password:
>>> >  Skipping org.macports.activate (alpine ) since this port is already > 
>>> active
>>> >  --->  Cleaning alpine
>>> >  ~/Documents/tmp>
>>> > >  Subsequently when I started Alpine, I was still in version 1.00.
>>>  [...]
>>> > >  Thanks in advance for any easy sure-fire non-techie way to get the > 
>>> newest version of Alpine working on my Mac.
>>> > >  Jacob Wegelin
>>>
>>>  Try
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Clemens Dörrhöfer | 2 Aug 2009 20:08
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direct-to-you status

Hello List.

Alpine has these two very useful status bits. Alpine will only identify my
local system as ME. Is it possible to tell Alpine which email addresses
belong to me so I can identify all of my email pop accounts and mark them
as direct-to-you and cc-to-you ?

Clemens
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alandhae | 2 Aug 2009 20:28
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Re: direct-to-you status

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Clemens Dörrhöfer <cmd@...> wrote:

Clemens,

dunno if I correctly understood your question, use 
Setup, Config and add at

	alt-addresses 

a list of comma-separated E-mail Addresses that might be representing you.

> Alpine has these two very useful status bits. Alpine will only identify my
> local system as ME. Is it possible to tell Alpine which email addresses
> belong to me so I can identify all of my email pop accounts and mark them
> as direct-to-you and cc-to-you ?

regards

	Andreas

--

-- 
Andreas Landhäußer				+49 151 12133027 (mobile)
alandhae@...
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Clemens Dörrhöfer | 2 Aug 2009 20:39
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Re: direct-to-you status


That solved my problem. Been going up and down the config options a
million times and overlooked this every single time. Thx.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, alandhae@... wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Clemens Dörrhöfer <cmd@...> wrote:
>
> Clemens,
>
> dunno if I correctly understood your question, use
> Setup, Config and add at
>
> 	alt-addresses
>
> a list of comma-separated E-mail Addresses that might be representing you.
>
> > Alpine has these two very useful status bits. Alpine will only identify my
> > local system as ME. Is it possible to tell Alpine which email addresses
> > belong to me so I can identify all of my email pop accounts and mark them
> > as direct-to-you and cc-to-you ?
>
> regards
>
> 	Andreas
>
> --
> Andreas Landhäußer				+49 151 12133027 (mobile)
> alandhae@...
>
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robert delius royar | 2 Aug 2009 21:10

Re: Re: how to install newest Alpine

Sun, 2 Aug 2009 (12:36 -0400 UTC) Jacob Wegelin wrote:

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> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, robert delius royar wrote:
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>>  These errors are MacPorts related.  The MacPorts users' list might be the
>>  place to find an answer (see http://www.macports.org/ for more
>>  information).
>>
>>  One thing I notice is that your xcode is rather old.  The current version
>>  is 3.1.3, and you have 2,5.  However, that may not be the problem.
>
> This is way beyond my expertise. This is why I did not try to install alpine 
> using "build" or "make". Doesn't Macintosh have a way to automatically update 
> its code, including its C compiler? Every time my Macintosh requests 
> permission to upgrade itself I tell it "yes."
>
> Is there anyone I can consult to get this fixed? I occasionally hire 
> consultants at a local Macintosh-related company in Richmond, Virginia, 
> CapitolMac.com. Perhaps someone there would know enough about unix to fix 
> this?
>
> Or is there an easier way to get this fixed?
>
> Most software packages for a Mac come as a downloadable *.dmg file, which one 
> can doubleclick and then it installs itself. Is there any hope of alpine 
> doing this? All I want to do is get the latest version of alpine working on 
> my Macintosh, and keep it updated in the future.

Xcode (if it is even the problem) is not part of the software update
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Mark Crispin | 2 Aug 2009 23:05
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Re: A couple of (unrelated) questions

That is the way that POP3 works.  In POP3, expunge only occurs when you 
log out from the mailbox gracefully.  If the connection is not logged out 
gracefully, all of the deletions are undone.

This is not Alpine's doing.  This is how POP3 servers are defined to work. 
Expunge is part of graceful logout, and exists no place else in the POP3 
protocol.

So, you may ask, what does expunge in Alpine done on a POP3 session? 
Answer: it gives you the visual appearance of an expunge, but actually 
does nothing.  Nor can it do anything.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Dan Hatton wrote:
> I get something that may or may not be related... If I explicitly
> expunge messages from a POP3 folder during an Alpine session, then
> lose the POP3 connection for whatever reason, then restart Alpine, the
> supposedly expunged messages come back, not even marked as deleted any
> more.  Expunging from a POP3 folder is only permanent if I quit Alpine
> while the POP3 connection is still up.

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