Gregory Heytings | 26 Jul 19:33 2014

Signing problems


Hi list,

I try to sign emails with Alpine (latest version, 2.11).

I created a "free email certificate" on the Comodo website, and I exported 
that certificate (from within Google Chrome) as a PKCS12 file <email>.p12 
with a password <p12-pass>.

This file apparently contains two keys: a private key and a certificate (= 
public key?).  I tried various ways to extract these two keys, and I put 
them respectively in the ~/.alpine-smime/private and 
~/.alpine-smime/public directories.

I converted that .p12 file into a .pem file, with the command "openssl 
pkcs12 -in <email>.p12 -out <email>.pem", with a passphrase <pem-pass>.

Then I tried to:

1. Use the .pem file as a .key file, after changing its extension, as 
indicated in the Alpine "Notes on Configuration and Preferences".

2. Use the .pem file as a .key file *and* a .crt file.

3. Extract the two keys by hand from the .pem file, the certificate in 
<email>.crt and the private key in <email>.key.

4. Same as 3, but keep the "Bag Attributes" lines before the keys.

I am asked to type the <pem-pass> when I send an email, and the signing 
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Bret Busby | 14 Jul 09:34 2014
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Are there any known problems connecting to dovecot

Hello.

My web hosting ISP, from whence my incoming email is obtained, has, in 
the last week, changed some of its hostings, and is now apparently using 
Dovecot as the IMAP server.

I have, in the past, over many years, used PINE/ALPINE, to connect with 
various IMAP/POP servers, but I have not previously encountered the 
Kafka-esque mess that is the procedure of connecting to the Dovecot 
mailserver.

In the process of logging in to the Inbox, using ALPINE 2.00, I have to 
use mutiple key presses, before a keypress has any effect, including, 
when entering the username and the return, and, the number of keypresses 
that need to be used, vary according to which character key is being 
pressed, and, which position in the string. So, a "b" in one position, 
may take 45-100 key presses, before it appears on the screen, and, in 
another position, two key presses. And, when I press the <Enter> key, 
when it finally has an effect, a different username to what I have 
entered, may be displayed, as the username, for which to enter the 
password. And, In order to get through the process, I am required to 
abort the logging in, and then try again, as part of the required 
process.

I have not, in the twenty-odd years that I have been using email, and, 
the Internet and its predecessors (here in Australia, we had AARnet, as 
a network that was connected to ARPAnet), seen anything like this. It is 
like the interface is on heroin, or something.

So, I am wondering, are there any known or observed, problems, in 
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Bob Bernstein | 12 Jul 01:39 2014

Using email lists

If I am reading a list to which I am subscribed and I 
want to make a list reply to the message I'm reading, 
selecting 'Reply All' places the message's author in 
the new To: field, and the list address in the Cc: 
field.

1. Does this cause dupes to be sent to the author of 
the message, or does the list software -- I'm thinking 
mostly of Mailman right now -- avoid this?

2. Is there a keyboard command that will instruct 
alpine only to place the list address in the new To: 
field, and not put the author's address anywhere as a 
recipient?

thx,

--

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Beartooth | 10 Jul 16:53 2014
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superfluous sigdashes

	I'm running Alpine on Fedora 20, fully updated, though the distro 
honchos seem not to have kept up with Alpine.

The help file says : 

======================================================================
  ALPINE 2.00   HELP FOR SETUP 
CONFIGURATION                                       Line 21 of 21 ALL  

                                    FEATURE: Enable Sigdashes

This feature enables support for the common USENET news convention of 
preceding a message signature with the special line consisting of the 
three characters "-- " (i.e., dash, dash, and space).

When enabled and a "Signature File" exists, Alpine will insert the 
special line before including the file's text (unless the special line 
already exists somewhere in the file's text).

In addition, when you Reply or Followup to a message containing one of 
these special lines and choose to include its text, Alpine will observe 
the convention of not including text beyond the special line in your 
reply. If "Full Header" mode is enabled and turned on, then Alpine will
include the text beyond the special line regardless of the setting of 
this feature.

See also "Strip From Sigdashes on Reply" for a related feature.

 *  Finding more information and requesting help

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Carlos E. R. | 5 Jul 12:52 2014

Text search in multiple folders


Hi,

I have local dovecot imap server with lucene text search installed. I can 
search on multiple folders and subfolders using Thunderbird, but 
Thunderbird becomes dog slow, some times it works, some times it doesn't, 
maybe it even crashes. When it does work, though, it is very nice.

I do not see the equivalent feature in my Alpine.

Does it not exist?

It seems a pity to have to resort to grepmail, when I have lucene 
installed and working... searching on an index is faster than reading 
gigabytes of files.

--

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E. R.
David Melik | 2 Jul 06:47 2014

Re: using mailspool and mbox (was an old thread)

I forgot if I had sent this reply to the thread/question that was in reply to me, but I found this draft so am
sending it.

--- chappa@... wrote:
>Then enter /var/mail/user or /var/spool/mail/user to read it from there. 
>Typically, Alpine will know where mail is delivered so leaving the 
>inbox-path to read "inbox" is normally enough. If this is not enough, then 
>you must enter the full path.

>If you want mail to be transferred directly from /var/spool/mail to your 
>/home/inbox, then inbox must exist, and be in the correct format. I think 
>mix, if I recall correctly. Is that what you want or do you want to move 
>the messages manually?

If Alpine does not know about /var/mail or /var/spool/mail (which is not clear to me), I would like mails to
be moved either like you describe, or, as someone recently described to me, by using Procmail. I recall
probably setting up Pine years ago to do what you say (because I never used Procmail or probably ever moved
mail manually), but I think it was mbox format... I am not sure if it was saved in a file called mbox or Inbox in
~ or ~/mail... or maybe I did read the mailspool and save mail in one of the folders just mentioned (but then I
am not sure how it would have existed on my system)... but I am just wanting to set up Alpine how I had it years ago.

David

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Matt Ackeret | 21 Jun 04:30 2014
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Ordered sort ignores Re: but not Fwd:, right? Shouldn't it?


I think this is what I'm seeing.. but just to sanity check me..

Ordered sort ignores Re: but not Fwd:, right?

Shouldn't it also ignore the latter too (i.e. group messages together)?
I would argue yes.

Especially with the "fixed" threading (i.e. threads now sort by their
latest message rather than their earliest, but this caused the "broken
threads" issue unless you have the very first message in the thread), I 
switch between Ordered Subject and Threaded a zillion times..  and was
just trying to nuke a mini discussion from the past day and realized that
one message someone forwarded me wasn't in the group..
Bret Busby | 19 Jun 10:49 2014
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Reply To settings in pine/alpine - Request For Change

Hello.

Having raised, on the Debian Users mailing list, the issue of mailing 
list Reply-To settings for mailing lists (in the version of alpine that 
I am using, when I compose a reply to a list message, the message 
composer defaults a Reply address to the email address of the poster, to 
whose message I am composing a reply, or, otherwise, offering only the 
option that is effectively "Reply To All"), I got the response appended 
to this message.

See
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01192.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01196.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01197.html

I wonder whether the developers of PINE/ALPINE have considered 
implementing adaptations of the graphical considerations mentioned in 
the RFC2369, at pages 11 and 12.

At
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2369.txt
is

"
B.2.2. Menu items

    On graphical systems which have menus, these commands could take the
    form of a menu or sub-menu of items. For example, a "Lists" menu
    might appear when viewing messages containing the header fields, with
    items named "Subscribe", "Unsubscribe", "Get Help", "Post Message to
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David Melik | 16 Jun 02:29 2014

Re: re-alpine with mbox?

--- chappa@... wrote:
>Then enter /var/mail/user or /var/spool/mail/user to read it from there. 
>Typically, Alpine will know where mail is delivered so leaving the 
>inbox-path to read "inbox" is normally enough. If this is not enough, then 
>you must enter the full path.

>If you want mail to be transferred directly from /var/spool/mail to your 
>/home/inbox, then inbox must exist, and be in the correct format. I think 
>mix, if I recall correctly. Is that what you want or do you want to move 
>the messages manually?

If Alpine does not know about /var/mail or /var/spool/mail (which is not clear to me), I would like mails to
be moved either like you describe, or, as someone recently described to me, by using Procmail. I recall
probably setting up Pine years ago to do what you say (because I never used Procmail or probably ever moved
mail manually), but I think it was mbox format... I am not sure if it was saved in a file called mbox or Inbox in
~ or ~/mail... or maybe I did read the mailspool and save mail in one of the folders just mentioned (but then I
am not sure how it would have existed on my system)... but I am just wanting to set up Alpine how I had it years ago.

David

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Neil Millar | 13 Jun 15:39 2014
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Sending Mac Mail drafted messages from Alpine


Hi,

We are having a problem using alpine 2.11-1 on Redhat 6
to send messages that are drafted in Mac Mail, I wondered
if anyone has any experience with this?

Mac Mail is set to send as plain text, but it always seems
to save its draft messages as html. If these messages are
continued from alpine they render correctly on screen in alpine,
and are sent as plain text with similar formatting to
the html original, but the content-type stays as text/html so when
they are received they are rendered as html and lose formatting

The following is the draft mail from Mac Mail (with some headers
removed):

Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\))
Content-Type: text/html;
     charset=us-ascii
X-Apple-Base-Url: x-msg://1/
X-Apple-Mail-Plain-Text-Draft: yes
X-Apple-Windows-Friendly: 1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Uniform-Type-Identifier: com.apple.mail-draft

<html><head></head><body dir="auto" class="ApplePlainTextBody" 
style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; 
-webkit-line-break: 
after-white-space;">1<div><br></div><div>2</div><div><br></div><div>3</div><div><br></div></body></html>
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Thomas Gramstad | 8 Jun 09:27 2014
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How to restore folder-collection sorting?

Hi,

Recently my university decided to replace their excellent
mailserver software with Microsoft Exchange, and for me, using
alpine on Linux, everything was either reset or stopped working.
Going through each and every config setting I've been able to
reconstruct my Alpine setup the way I want it to be.

Only two problems remain, both related to sorting/filtering of
e-mail:

1. When I try to set up sorting to already existing files (i.e.,
the e-mail files I had set up and working for Alpine earlier),
Alpine produces error messages about "file has shrunk", requires
me to confirm sorting, and then warns about "possible data
corruption", although the messages and file appear to be fine.

In the old .pinerc I had a list like the following, which is what
I'm trying to restore:

incoming-folders=osf ~/sfk/aa-sfk-styret01.txt,
         osf02 ~/sfk/osf-styret02.txt,
         es08 ~/efn/efn-styret08.txt,
         efn-div ~/efn/mailman/arbeidsgrupper01.txt,
         nuug ~/nuug/nuug01.txt,
         nodaf ~/ndf/nodaf01.txt,

and so on.

2. The nicks I create don't show up in the
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