Bret Busby | 11 Jun 08:01 2016
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Unable to send mail

Hello.

The alpine title bar shows "Alpine 2.20".

I have tried repeatedly to send a message, and I get the response
"[Mail not sent. Sending error: 250 2.0.0.0 Ok]"

What is happening?

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Markus Schlager | 3 Jun 23:28 2016
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tls on arch linux and gmx/1und1

Hi all,

I'm using alpine 2.20 on manjaro, a derivative of arch linux, and mail 
accounts at gmx.de and 1und1.de. I used to have the corresponding roles 
configured with SMTP-settings like

 	SMTP=mail.gmx.de/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=MY_UID

Since June 1st both providers are enforcing tls-encryption, whence my 
setup for sending mails fails.

Is there anybody using a similar setup with tls working? Any hints are 
appreciated.

I changed my settings to

 	SMTP=mail.gmx.de/tls/novalidate-cert/user=MY_UID

and tried to follow https://www.madboa.com/geek/pine-ssl/ and hints at 
https://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/

'openssl version -d' returns OPENSSLDIR: "/etc/ssl"

Hence I copied all certificates of the CA-chain to 
/etc/ca-certificates/extracted/cadir/, created their x506-hashes and 
symlinked them to /etc/ssl/certs/CERTIFICATE.pem and /etc/ssl/certs/HASH.0
Unfortunately this doesn't work.

Is this the right place for the certificates? strace shows only that 
alpine reads /etc/ssl/cert.pem. Which other certificates is alpine looking 
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Joe | 3 Jun 21:04 2016
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Gmail can be such a pain in the {deleted}

Gmail is NOT my primary email. But sometimes gmx.com gets blocklisted by Comcast so I
like having a secondary email set up, in case I get bounced due to that annoying
blocklist.
It's got a few idiosyncrasies however, that I doubt there's anything alpine can do
anything about.
I generally use fetchmail/procmail in a script to 'fetch' my mail to my local
folders. But I also have some IMAP folders defined in my incoming folder collection.
Usually there aren't many new emails in my gmx inbox when I tab my way through my
folder collection. But I like peeking at the From: & Subject: fields with alpine
before flushing the spam folder.
For my Gmail account I try to do the same. And have added my Gmail inbox, Spam,
Trash & Sent Mail folders.
I use Gmail's SMTP so rarely that I don't really mind Gmail's insistence on putting
a copy in it's Sent Mail even though that's NOT where alpine's Fcc: copy goes. I don't
even really care that any message that fetchmail retrieved {and 'flushed'} from
Gmail's pop server winds up in the Trash folder instead of being properly expunged
like anything I delete via alpine's IMAP access.
What does aggravate me however is what happens when I'm tabbing through my incoming folders.
If there is new mail in my Gmail inbox alpine will tell me how many messages are
there as it offers to actually open the folder. Which is what I expect it to do.
However, even if there are messages in both my Gmail Sent Mail, and Trash folders,
tab will skip over them and offer to return to my local "inbox" folder.
I think this is probably a case where Gmail's IMAP server isn't responding correctly
to alpines request for the message count. Possibly because they don't consider them
to be "NEW" messages??? So if there is a fix for this could somebody tell me about
it?
If not then I guess I can just get used to manually opening each of my Gmail folders
even if alpine thinks they're empty. So it's not really much of a problem. It's just
that it bugs me that tabbing past these incoming folders never reports any messages.
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<div><div><div>
<div>Gmail is NOT my primary email. But sometimes gmx.com gets blocklisted by Comcast so I<br>
like having a secondary email set up, in case I get bounced due to that annoying<br>
blocklist.</div>

<div>It's got a few idiosyncrasies however, that I doubt there's anything alpine can do<br>
anything about.</div>

<div>I generally use fetchmail/procmail in a script to 'fetch' my mail to my local<br>
folders. But I also have some IMAP folders defined in my incoming folder collection.<br>
Usually there aren't many new emails in my gmx inbox when I tab my way through my<br>
folder collection. But I like peeking at the From: &amp; Subject: fields with alpine<br>
before flushing the spam folder.</div>

<div>For my Gmail account I try to do the same. And have added my Gmail inbox, Spam,<br>
Trash &amp; Sent Mail folders.</div>

<div>I use Gmail's SMTP so rarely that I don't really mind Gmail's insistence on putting<br>
a copy in it's Sent Mail even though that's NOT where alpine's Fcc: copy goes. I don't<br>
even really care that any message that fetchmail retrieved {and 'flushed'} from<br>
Gmail's pop server winds up in the Trash folder instead of being properly expunged<br>
like anything I delete via alpine's IMAP access.</div>

<div>What does aggravate me however is what happens when I'm tabbing through my incoming folders.<br>
If there is new mail in my Gmail inbox alpine will tell me how many messages are<br>
there as it offers to actually open the folder. Which is what I expect it to do.<br>
However, even if there are messages in both my Gmail Sent Mail, and Trash folders,<br>
tab will skip over them and offer to return to my local "inbox" folder.</div>

<div>I think this is probably a case where Gmail's IMAP server isn't responding correctly<br>
to alpines request for the message count. Possibly because they don't consider them<br>
to be "NEW" messages??? So if there is a fix for this could somebody tell me about<br>
it?</div>

<div>If not then I guess I can just get used to manually opening each of my Gmail folders<br>
even if alpine thinks they're empty. So it's not really much of a problem. It's just<br>
that it bugs me that tabbing past these incoming folders never reports any messages.</div>

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|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ^^^&nbsp;&nbsp; ^^^<br>
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;o&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;o&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ^&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ___&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;&lt;jtwdyp@...&gt;&gt;</div>

<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sigh&gt;</div>

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Mark Peveto | 1 Jun 17:55 2016
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separate email accounts

Hi all,
I have another email address that I'd like to get alpine to check.  How do I make it check that one, and my
current addres?  I'm assuming a separet
account has to be crated somehow.

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Sent from vinux using alpine 2.20.13

David Morris | 31 May 20:56 2016

Making sort persist?


I have folders where I've saved emails, but the arrival order in the
folder is not the thread order because I've not always saved in the
correct order. Earier items may be in my inbox and saved out of order,
etc.

I thought in the past I'd been able to fix the issue by sorting the folder
and saving it to a new name, but the new folder retains the original
order. Then I thought perhaps Alpine just remembered the last order for a
folder, but that doesn't happen either.

How do I get a corrected sort order to persist? In other words, get a new
folder with all items in some alternate order?

Thanks
Mark Peveto | 30 May 15:08 2016
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hmm, alpine password issue fixed.

On a gamble, I wrote touch .pine-passfile, and it fixed the issue.

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Sent from F123 visual using alpine 2.20.13

Mark Peveto | 30 May 12:30 2016
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issue with alpine 2.20.13

Hi all,
I've just installed version 2.20.13, and it doesn't seem to want to save my password like the previous
versions have done.  I was going to upgrade the
version on my other linux machine from 2.20.12 to 13, but I think i'll wait until I get an answer on this.

Mark Peveto
Registered Linux user number 600552
Sent from F123 visual using alpine 2.20.13

Joe Philbrook | 26 May 03:12 2016
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Gmail|imap|All Mail folder| {many expletives deleted}


Hello, I use alpine as my only email client. Have done for years. I also have yet to
find a web mail interface I can stomach. My primary email provider is GMX.com which
unfortunately Comcast keeps adding to one of their blocklists. Since both my sister
and my brother use Comcast, I decided to add a Gmail account. So I can still email
them when gmx is blocklisted. 

I had no trouble getting the gmail's SMTP working with alpine.

But I was unable to add gmail as a usable folder collection.
Which I only wanted to do as a means of extracting the actual folder names to use as
I define my gmail incoming folders in my existing collection

I've been able to access my gmail inbox with alpine and after much web searching
I was able to add both the spam and trash folders:

That is to say that these work:

"Gmail.com_" {imap.gmail.com:993/user=myaccount@.../service=imap/ssl}inbox,
"Gmail-Spam_" {imap.gmail.com:993/user=myaccount@.../service=imap/ssl}[Gmail]/Spam,
"Gmail-trash_" {imap.gmail.com:993/user=myaccount@.../service=imap/ssl}[Gmail]/Trash,

But I'd like to have IMAP access to my Gmail "All Mail" folder and I can't seem to
find the correct syntax for that folder name so Gmail will stop throwing a "does not
exist" error.

I've tried:
[Gmail]/"All Mail"
[Gmail]/"all mail"
[Gmail]/All\ Mail
None of them worked...
Then while I was looking at some old threads in my local alpine email folder
I noticed someone describing it as an "allMail" folder. So I also tried:
[Gmail]/allmail
[Gmail]/allMail
[Gmail]/AllMail
None of those worked either.

Could some nice smart gmail user give me a clue.

Thanks

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Barry Landy | 25 May 16:43 2016
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killfile

Does anyone know if Alpine supports a killfile on the 
newsreader interface?

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Riku Virtanen | 20 May 08:50 2016
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How to install Alpine 2.20 to Fedora 17

Hi,

I tried to run ./configure in Fedora 17.
There are several errors, such as a missing ldap.

Currently I use 2.03.

How could I install?

Riku
Thomas Gramstad | 11 May 16:24 2016
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Possible to open .ict files in Alpine?

Hi,

Is it possible to open and read .ict files in Alpine?
It is these pesky Microsoft calender format files that Microsoft 
users for some reason allow to automatically modify their 
calenders. I certainly don't want to allow that, but I would like 
to be able to read those files, since they contain times and 
places for meetings, and often the Microsoft users do not write 
those times and places elsewhere in the posting.

Ideally, Alpine has/would have a configuration setting to display 
the information in .ict as plain text, but I can't find such a 
setting...

Thomas Gramstad

Gmane