NM Public | 25 Jul 22:19 2016

strongly encrypting passfile

I know that Alpine's default encryption of the passfile is not 
strong and I'm wondering what techniques people use to strongly 
encrypt it. I read in an Alpine mailing list archive that newer 
versions of Alpine support better encryption using MIME, but I 
don't know the details. Now that Windows 10 supports "Bash on 
Ubuntu on Windows," I think I'll be able to start using a newer 
version of Alpine on Windows and share my passfile between 
Windows and Mac, but I'd really like to keep it strongly 
encrypted.

Thanks for any tips about this!

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Hisashi T Fujinaka | 25 Jul 17:06 2016

Bug in select -> bounce

In Version 2.20 (67 2015-01-07) (wow, that sounds old) I have a new bug
that just started since I rebuilt alpine from pkgsrc. I have a Role
defined, but in the past I could select several, and then bounce. If I
only bounce one it's just bounce. Now it's select, get asked if I want
to use a Role, and then bounce.

Does that make sense? I think it added a check for roles somewhere it
doesn't need to be.

Thanks.

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superaorta | 24 Jul 14:19 2016
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daft question - config folders

 

I keep my email in directories by year

 

~/Mail/...

~/Mail/2015/...

~/Mail/2014/...

etc

 

Now I have mail going back many years and to simplify things I stuck 2010 and older into a separate directory

 

~/Mail/2010_and_earlier/2010/...

~/Mail/2010_and_earlier/2009/...

etc

 

How do I get pine to recognise these? it finds ~/Mail/2014/... etc without problem but claims 2010_and_earlier is empty. Adding lots of entries into folder collections does work but then creates so much clutter in the pine main screen as to render it useless.

 

I simply want to move to 2010_and_earlier and then inside that see

2010

2009

2008

etc etc

 

and inside each of these see my mail folders.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Ta SA

<div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I keep my email in directories by year</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>~/Mail/...</p>
<p>~/Mail/2015/...</p>
<p>~/Mail/2014/...</p>
<p>etc</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now I have mail going back many years and to simplify things I stuck 2010 and older into a separate directory</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>~/Mail/2010_and_earlier/2010/...</p>
<p>~/Mail/2010_and_earlier/2009/...</p>
<p>etc</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How do I get pine to recognise these? it finds ~/Mail/2014/... etc without problem but claims 2010_and_earlier is empty.  Adding lots of entries into folder collections does work but then creates so much clutter in the pine main screen as to render it useless.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I simply want to move to 2010_and_earlier and then inside that see</p>
<p>2010</p>
<p>2009</p>
<p>2008</p>
<p>etc etc</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>and inside each of these see my mail folders.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Any suggestions?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ta SA</p>
</div>
Clark I Anderson | 21 Jul 22:59 2016

Help, please: SSH Secure Shell Client Send Password to Alpine for Zimbra IMAP Email Server

Secure Shell passes the User Name to Alpine for Zimbra IMAP Email Server.
It does not pass the password.
My email provider can accept the User Name and Password through their 
Webmail tool and pas both on to the Zimbra IMAP Email Server.

When I use my preferred Secure Shell interface:
  Secure Shell has the User Name and passes it on.
  I give it the Password.
  In the UNIX environment, I issue the pine command.
  In Alpine, the Password is requested again to open the Inbox.
  In Alpine, when I wish to send an email, the Password is requested again 
to send it.

As long as I stay in Alpine, I can open the Inbox and send more messages 
without providing the Password again.

I hope there is a solution.  I will appreciate your help.
Sincerely,

                 Clark Anderson
Carlos E. R. | 21 Jul 05:25 2016
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Does the initial count feature work?

Hi,

I just started Pine on a new Linux account, and Pine asked if I wanted to be counted. Sure, why not. But the post
is not accepted, the destination considers it as spam:

2016-07-21T04:53:59.703591+02:00 Gestor postfix/cleanup[5343]: ABA38121029: message-id=<alpine.LSU.2.20.1607210442380.5336 <at> Gestor>
2016-07-21T04:53:59.727899+02:00 Gestor postfix/qmgr[2637]: ABA38121029: from=<>, size=646,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
2016-07-21T04:54:01.453559+02:00 Gestor postfix/smtp[5710]: ABA38121029:
to=<alpine-count@...>,
relay=mx.000webhost.com[31.170.160.66]:25, delay=682, delays=681/0.1/1.1/0.54, dsn=5.7.1,
status=bounced (host mx.000webhost.com[31.170.160.66] said: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client
host [81.33.74.237] blocked using zen.spamhaus.org;
https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/81.33.74.237 (in reply to RCPT TO command))
2016-07-21T04:54:01.576208+02:00 Gestor postfix/qmgr[2637]: ABA38121029: removed

At the point that Alpine runs this initial "count message", Alpine is not configured, so it knows nothing
about what to use in "this" system in order to send properly an email.
Far are the times when a Linux machine had mail setup globally by the Administrator, on a fixed IP, or with a
global relay.

I think this method of counting should be changed, many users will be missed. ;-)

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Gregory Heytings | 11 Jul 18:36 2016

How to delete attachments while keeping arrival order?


Hi list,

Is there a way to delete one or more attachments in an email, within 
Alpine, without saving the email again?

The reason of this question is that my emails are stored in folders in 
arrival order.  So far the only way I have found to keep that arrival 
order in a folder of, say, 2000 emails, is to (1) mark an attachment of 
say email #1000 as deleted, (2) save email #1000, (3) save emails 
#1001-#2000 again in the same folder, and (4) delete emails #1000-#2000 
(which are now duplicated in #2001-#3001, but without the attachment in 
email #2001).

This works nicely with "small" folders, but I have folders with thousands 
of emails in which I would like to delete attachments in many emails 
without repeating this tedious process over and over.

Thanks in advance,

Gregory
Carlos E. R. | 9 Jul 11:48 2016
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Re: Help with outbound mail


Please, remember to post to the list, because like in this case, I do
not know the answer but others may.

On 2016-07-09 05:14, Don Harrison wrote:
> Well what I have so far is this:
> 
> in the configuration (alpine 2.02 (1266) via ubuntu 12.04 LTS I have tried:
> 
> smtp.comcast.net:587/user=USERNAME  I get [mail not sent: smtp
> connection broken (reply)]
> 
> same error message when adding /notls or /tls after port number.
> 
> When switching port number to 465 it says [sending mail | 0% |] and then
> times out.
> 
> Now I can receive mail but cannot send. Whoa is me! :)

Well, the problem may be in the Alpine configuration, or perhaps with
the mail server (comcast). My configuration is different, I use a local
postfix:

SMTP Server (for sending)         = localhost

The Alpine help says:

+++..........
You may tell Alpine to use the Message Submission port (587) instead of
the SMTP port (25) by including the "submit" parameter in this option.
At this time "/submit" is simply equivalent to specifying port 587,
though it may imply more than that at some point in the future. Some
ISPs are blocking port 25 in order to reduce the amount of spam being
sent to their users. You may find that the submit option allows you to
get around such a block.
..........++-

Thus it seems better to use:

SMTP Server (for sending) = smtp.comcast.net:submit/user=USERNAME

Other people here can surely help you further.

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		Carlos E. R.
		(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)


Please, remember to post to the list, because like in this case, I do
not know the answer but others may.

On 2016-07-09 05:14, Don Harrison wrote:
> Well what I have so far is this:
> 
> in the configuration (alpine 2.02 (1266) via ubuntu 12.04 LTS I have tried:
> 
> smtp.comcast.net:587/user=USERNAME  I get [mail not sent: smtp
> connection broken (reply)]
> 
> same error message when adding /notls or /tls after port number.
> 
> When switching port number to 465 it says [sending mail | 0% |] and then
> times out.
> 
> Now I can receive mail but cannot send. Whoa is me! :)

Well, the problem may be in the Alpine configuration, or perhaps with
the mail server (comcast). My configuration is different, I use a local
postfix:

SMTP Server (for sending)         = localhost

The Alpine help says:

+++..........
You may tell Alpine to use the Message Submission port (587) instead of
the SMTP port (25) by including the "submit" parameter in this option.
At this time "/submit" is simply equivalent to specifying port 587,
though it may imply more than that at some point in the future. Some
ISPs are blocking port 25 in order to reduce the amount of spam being
sent to their users. You may find that the submit option allows you to
get around such a block.
..........++-

Thus it seems better to use:

SMTP Server (for sending) = smtp.comcast.net:submit/user=USERNAME

Other people here can surely help you further.

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		Carlos E. R.
		(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

James Freer | 9 Jul 10:16 2016
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Re: Settings for yahoo mail

On 25 January 2016 at 07:20, James Freer <jessejazza3.uk@...> wrote:
> I would be grateful if someone could correct me on settings for Alpine used
> remotely (i.e. reading the server directly) with yahoo. At present I
> retrieve fine and sending works but does not leave the email in the Sent
> folder. On replying to an email I do get a copy in the Inbox from the Cc
> which seems to happen automatically. With Gmail that didn't matter as it has
> one box for all mail with labels but with yahoo I would prefer to use the
> Sent box.
>
> {imap.mail.yahoo.com:993/ssl/user=jessejazza@...}inbox
> smtp.mail.yahoo.com:587/tls/user=jessejazza@...

I think I should have put this a bit clearer.

Yahoo works fine but does not save a sent email. Gmail does but it
seems that it automatically saves a copy. With yahoo entering one's
email in Cc: cures this when composing.

But a 'slight pain' and easy to forget when composing. So I was
wondering how I could configure an automatic Fcc/Bcc when I enter the
role.

(info. No one else has mentioned this looking through past posts. I
had trouble for a while using Alpine when Google did an update on
security. It denied authentication. In one's Gmail Security there is
Connected apps & sites -> allow less secure apps: ON (select on).
Perhaps everyone else spotted it but... i'm a bit slow! Hence why I
want to give up on gmail - too many 'bells & whistles').

james
Don Harrison | 8 Jul 06:23 2016
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Help with outbound mail

Is this the proper mailing list for this question?

Thanks,

Donald Harrison
Bret Busby | 6 Jul 10:07 2016
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How to set application for viewing file attachments

Hello.

I use alpine 2.20 running on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

When I want to view a .jpg file attachment, for some strange reason,
alpine loads the web browser, arora, which is a delinquent
application, that keeps adding more windows, each time it is opened,
and, when I tried to view a jpg file attachment today, alpine opened
arora with 515 windows, and, it took quite a while, before I could do
anything with the system, including, using the "kill rabid
application" function.

How can I configure alpine 2.20, to query me (the user), as to which
application is to be used to open an attachment file?

Thank you in anticipation.

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West Australia

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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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Eduardo Chappa | 4 Jul 22:47 2016
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Web site down

Dear All,

   The website where I post patches and source code for Alpine is currently 
down. Based on information available in their forums, it does not seem 
that the site will be back any time soon (many other sites are down and no 
action has been taken for days!) I will keep evaluating the situation and 
possibly move to a new site.

   I have a full copy of the site, so nothing has been lost.

   Thank you.

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http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/ (Web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

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