Andreas Schamanek | 14 Apr 21:59 2014

Postponed-msgs on Maildir broken

Hi Alpine fellows,

I am having a problem with the folder for postponed messages using 
Alpine 2.11 (and also older versions) with the respective Maildir 
patch from Eduardo.

Apparently (I am using (Al)Pine for 20 years now but I didn't know 
until today that), when there is only 1 postponed message left, Alpine 
will try to delete the then empty folder when the message is 

If the folder collection where the postponed-msgs resides is a Maildir 
collection (#mc/Maildir/.[]) this breaks the folder on my Debian 
boxes. The folders "new", "cur" and "tmp" are removed but other files 
(e.g. courierimapacl, courierimapuiddb and maildirfolder) and the 
folder itself are left. At that stage the folder is broken and cannot 
be used anymore.

If I use Courier IMAP for the folder collection everything is fine. 
The folder is removed and re-created once I postpone a message again.

Is this a problem with my configuration or a bug in the Maildir patch?
Why is the folder removed and re-created anyway?


-- Andreas


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David Melik | 14 Apr 05:15 2014

re-alpine with mbox?

I have used ((Re-)Al)Pine on and off since the late 1990s... I used to be able to find instructions how to set
it up for Unix/mbox mail... now it seems the projects originators no longer have much documentation on it.
How about writing/reposting some instructions, like a manual or tutorial so users can use the program?
When I go to setup and configuration, I no longer recall what to put in for inbox path, and it assumes I am
using IMAP, when I am only using Unix/mbox mail... I would also like to keep the mailbox compatible with a
GUI mail client that uses mbox... I, and probably many others, still use these command-line tools to keep
updated on system mail, or occasionally send mail from our own to somewhere else on the Internet... some
rudimentary instructions would be appreciated.


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Jyrki Voutilainen | 13 Apr 23:01 2014

O.T. Now It's Finally Done

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Martin Keegan | 11 Apr 16:48 2014

Maildir patch licensing


what is the licensing status of the patches at:

Is is distributable under the same terms as Alpine itself, or is there a 
model more similar to Aladdin Ghostscript (where the current version is 
not freely distributable, but is released under liberal terms once a new 
version is available)?



Martin Keegan,  <at> mk270, +44 7779 296469,
Jyrki Voutilainen | 11 Apr 16:35 2014

Exporting Emails from Other Clients To Alpine

Hi and hello,

Now you may laugh at me, but the only way that I found out to export my 
email folders and messages from Thunderbird to Alpine when starting to use 
this best text-based email client ever designed, was just to add similar 
folders than those in TB to the IMAP server, to copy all messages from the 
local TB folder to the newly created IMAP folder, to add it to Alpine's 
Incoming folders and save the messages to a local mail folder in Alpine. 
Then I probably deleted the IMAP folder that I had used for moving the 
messages from TB to Alpine. Of course the same procedure was required for 
all the local TB folders that I wanted to get available also in Alpine.

This may have been a bit complicated but it worked.

But could there have been another way to do this, or was this the only 
one? Doing this that way made it possible to preserve the original 
structure of the messages, and that was what I wanted all the time. 
Changing from OE to TB was another thing, because using Thunderbird's 
Export tool was possible. Could the TB folders have been exported to a 
file format that could have been imported to Alpine just like when using a 
client's Export feature?

When having asked this, I know very well that clients like OE, TB and 
Alpine are totally different, and thank God, Eduardo and the entire Alpine 
development team they are. Also TB is different from OE, but this is the 
Alpine-info list, not one for the previously mentioned clients.

Without any local folders no such procedure would have been needed, 
because I had switched from POP3 to IMAP during my TB usage.

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Bob Bernstein | 9 Apr 21:24 2014

Choose forward method?

I seem to recall alpine _asking_ me how I wanted to 
forward a given message i.e. either as an attachment, or 
inline. For some reason I don't see that behaviour at 

Am I just having a serious "senior moment," or is there a 
configuration of alpine that affords this choice on a 
message-by-message basis?



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metaphysics, useless as that study may appear?"

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James Freer | 8 Apr 01:13 2014


I particularly like using Pico as it has 'mid-cursor' positioning when 
composing/editing emails.

I am an editor for several classic car magazines/newsletters and I have been 
trying to find a nice simple console editor with spellcheck and 'mid-cursor 
positioning. Pico (alpine-pico in xubuntu repos as it's named as a standalone 
editor) is ideal...  apart from it's wordwrap. 'Wordwrap' as in emacs "visual 
line mode" or softwrap I think it's called. Pico's ^w^J justification does 
fixed justification which is not what I want. Of the maybe 100 or so console 
editors none seem to do this apart from vim... which I struggle with!

There must be a others who would like to see a nice easy basic console editor 
to use for 'prose editing' and I was wondering if the developers would 
consider putting softwrap into Pico. (Nano isn't an improvement on Pico 
i.m.o! - someone once said to me that Nano was better than Pico it's not).

Beartooth | 5 Apr 23:16 2014

Alpine crashed!

	Alpine (alpine-2.00-2.el5.rf) just crashed. I've been using it at 
leas since '92, for most of that time both on my home machine and on a 
remote, and I've never seen a crash happen, nor any sign that one might 
have when I wasn't watching.

	This was the remote account. It left me still in my remote 
account, so I just commanded alpine again, and it came back up.


Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

Jyrki Voutilainen | 1 Apr 05:04 2014

Another Patch Request

Hi and Hello,

I already know that Eduardo does not support this, but when some of us do, 
I've encouraged myself to ask if there are any plans to add a patch in the 
next Alpine release to enabling using of the List-Post header like the 
Reply-To header can be used now? But as Eduardo has already told and as I 
have read elsewhere, this would be contrary to the original use of 
List-Post but useful on lists where Reply-To is not allowed or in cases 
when it is not included in a list message that one wishes to reply by 
posting the reply just to the list. In these posts Reply-To is included by 
setting it to the role that I am using when posting to this list.

My suggestion would be that List-Post could be recognized and selected in 
the same way than the Reply-To address can be now. But yes, I know that 
List-Post is not an email address but a header. Therefore I fully 
understand Eduardo's resistance. (smile)


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Jyrki Voutilainen | 31 Mar 07:50 2014

Optimal Mail Sending Format?


This may not be just an Alpine issue, but I have considered plain text 
(TEXT/PLAIN) as the most reliable mail sending format, because this is 
always shown correctly, whatever client or mail service the recipients may 
use. Additionally, if I send a message to another Alpine user as 
multipart, quoted paragraphs may not be wrapped when replying to such a 
message. And finally, because I don't send formatted messages containing 
HTML tags, I don't see any point in sending mail as multipart. This means 
that I have enabled the "Downgrade Multipart To Text" feature in Alpine.

I don't remember if clients like Thunderbird send plain text by default if 
no HTML code is included in the message, but "Type messages as HTML 
formatted" can be disabled in TB anyway. But this goes for TB, not for 
Alpine, and Alpine is a better client than even TB also in Windows.


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Stefan Goessling-Reisemann | 24 Mar 16:19 2014

Alpine 2.19.4. and the <br/> tag

Hello List,

I am getting emails (sent from the servers of my "favourite" email 
provider GMX.DE) which are formatted in HTML and which use two different 
tags for coding a line break: <br> or <br/>, respectively.

The funny thing: Alpine 2.19.4 (and maybe older versions) displays the 
first tag correctly as a line break, but ignores the second. AFAIK both 
code elements are valid and should produce the same output: a line break.

Does anyone know how to fix this? Is this a bug?

Greetings, Stefan