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Andrew Shalit | 14 Nov 2008 21:12
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CCL IDE Pledge Drive Update

Hello MCL Users --

I'm happy to report that the Clozure CL Development Environment Pledge  
Drive is going well.

We have received pledges totaling $19,150.  That brings us over 90% of  
the way to our goal of $20,000.

[Imagine thermometer graphic here, with red bar reaching almost to the  
top.]

Please help us reach our goal, so we can get down to work building the  
best Common Lisp IDE anywhere.  When we announced the Pledge Drive, we  
requested pledges of $500 or more.  At this time, we'd like to open it  
up to contributions of any amount.  Every little bit will help us  
reach our goal of $20,000.

You can contribute directly through PayPal: just direct your payment
"payments@... 
".  To make a pledge or payment another way, please contact me at
alms@... 
.

Please make your pledge today.

To recap:

Our goal is to raise $20,000 to support two months of development on  
the CCL IDE, running on Mac OS X.  This will allow us to greatly  
improve the quality and reliability of the CCL IDE, and bring it into
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Mark D Gross | 15 Nov 2008 02:03
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Re: CCL IDE Pledge Drive Update

Some of us might be able to contribute if it was somehow a transaction 
with an invoice, receipt, etc. 
The accounting dept here won't go for "pledge" but surely there's a way ...

Andrew Shalit wrote:
> Hello MCL Users --
>
> I'm happy to report that the Clozure CL Development Environment Pledge  
> Drive is going well.
>
> We have received pledges totaling $19,150.  That brings us over 90% of  
> the way to our goal of $20,000.
>
> [Imagine thermometer graphic here, with red bar reaching almost to the  
> top.]
>
> Please help us reach our goal, so we can get down to work building the  
> best Common Lisp IDE anywhere.  When we announced the Pledge Drive, we  
> requested pledges of $500 or more.  At this time, we'd like to open it  
> up to contributions of any amount.  Every little bit will help us  
> reach our goal of $20,000.
>
> You can contribute directly through PayPal: just direct your payment
"payments@... 
> ".  To make a pledge or payment another way, please contact me at
alms@... 
> .
>
> Please make your pledge today.
>
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Scott Amort | 16 Nov 2008 18:47
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Error while building

Hello,

I am trying to build a software package for OS X 10.5 on a PPC machine 
using MCL-5.1 (currently the demo version). The software in question and 
build instructions are available here:

http://recherche.ircam.fr/equipes/repmus/OpenMusic/dev-doc/build-om5/buildmacos.html

It loads/compiles all of the lisp files, but throws an error while 
attempting to save the executable image. The error is:

 > Error: phooey
 > While executing: CCL::NAV-CHOOSE-NEW-FILE-DIALOG
 > Type Command-. to abort.

It doesn't really give me much to go on. I've tried to build the package 
in MCL-5.2, but it appears to duplicate various functions that are now 
in the kernel. I get various errors such as:

 > Error: The function XXX is already defined in the MCL kernel.

Does the demo version of MCL-5.1 limit saving images? Is there a guide 
somewhere on how to move a project from MCL-5.1 to MCL-5.2?

If anyone could offer me some advice, or nudge me in the right 
direction, I would really appreciate it.

Best,
Scott
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Peter | 17 Nov 2008 07:45

Re: Error while building

At 12:47 PM -0500 08/11/16, Scott Amort wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am trying to build a software package for OS X 10.5 on a PPC machine
>using MCL-5.1 (currently the demo version). The software in question and
>build instructions are available here:
>
>http://recherche.ircam.fr/equipes/repmus/OpenMusic/dev-doc/build-om5/buildmacos.html
>
>It loads/compiles all of the lisp files, but throws an error while
>attempting to save the executable image. The error is:
>
>  > Error: phooey
>  > While executing: CCL::NAV-CHOOSE-NEW-FILE-DIALOG
>  > Type Command-. to abort.
>
>It doesn't really give me much to go on. I've tried to build the package
>in MCL-5.2, but it appears to duplicate various functions that are now
>in the kernel. I get various errors such as:
>
>  > Error: The function XXX is already defined in the MCL kernel.
>
>Does the demo version of MCL-5.1 limit saving images? Is there a guide
>somewhere on how to move a project from MCL-5.1 to MCL-5.2?
>
>If anyone could offer me some advice, or nudge me in the right
>direction, I would really appreciate it.

Are you running the 5.1 patches 
<ftp://ftp.digitool.com/mcl/patches/MCL-5.1-patches.dmg.bin>, they
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Andrew Shalit | 17 Nov 2008 20:44
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Re: CCL IDE Pledge Drive Update

Hi Mark --

good question.  Not surprisingly, this has come up in the past.  To  
handle it, we've decided to begin selling supported copies of Clozure  
CL, as follows:

Clozure CL + 1 support incident   = $250
Clozure CL + 2 support incidents = $500
Clozure CL + 5 support incidents = $1,000
etc.

We're happy to generate an invoice for a supported copy of CCL for  
anyone who wants one.  Just let us know the number of support  
incidents you want, or the amount you want to spend, and let us know  
the organization, department, etc that we should be invoicing.

Once the purchase is complete, you can use the support incidents to  
get direct support for your work, or you can direct us to use them for  
improvements to the CCL IDE.

Would that work for you?  More importantly, would it wok for your  
accounting department?

cheers,
Andrew

On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Mark D Gross wrote:

> Some of us might be able to contribute if it was somehow a transaction
> with an invoice, receipt, etc.
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Scott Amort | 18 Nov 2008 05:20
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Re: Error while building

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the quick reply!

Peter wrote:
> Are you running the 5.1 patches 
> <ftp://ftp.digitool.com/mcl/patches/MCL-5.1-patches.dmg.bin>, they 
> include changes to event-wdef (which I assume is the source of your 
> Phooey error in CCL::NAV-CHOOSE-NEW-FILE-DIALOG)?

No, I wasn't aware of these... that cleared up the dialog error.

> You can build/save applications with MCL 5.1 Demo Version, but they 
> are time limited.

Yes, still a problem. I was hoping MCL 5.2 would help with that, but I 
am very new to LISP, and have no experience with the MCL environment.

> It might be worth listing in detail all the incompatibilities and 
> errors that you get, and the context in which you get them.  Not just 
> to help others help you, but to help yourself.

Well, since you asked ;-)

The first few errors I have come across seem to fall into problems 
redefining existing kernel functions. My strategy is to simply comment 
these out and defer to the kernel versions. However, this line:

(require 'toolequ)
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Peter | 18 Nov 2008 07:17

Re: Error while building

At 11:20 PM -0500 08/11/17, Scott Amort wrote:
>[...]
>(require 'toolequ)
>
>gives the following error:
>
>  > Error: The module "TOOLEQU" was required while loading
>#P"OM-5.2.5-src:buildimage:buildmacos:compPatches.lisp".
>  >        No file could be found for that module.
>  > While executing: REQUIRE
>  > Type Command-/ to continue, Command-. to abort.
>  > If continued: If "TOOLEQU" still hasn't been provided,
>you will be asked to choose a file.
>See the RestartsŠ menu item for further choices.
>1 >
>
>I'm not sure what this module is, or where to locate it. I'll keep trying.

AFAICS  ccl:lib;toolequ  is in versions of MCL 
prior to 5.2 but not in 5.2 or MCL 5.1 demo.
It seems to load OK under 5.2.

Alice, is it OK to upload here, or perhaps add to 5.2 distribution?

>  > Perhaps the author of recherche.ircam.fr has been here before you.
>
>They have moved on to LispWorks as a means to get the software to run on
>Intel machines. I can get a version of their beta code up and running,
>but it isn't quite ready yet.
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Scott Amort | 18 Nov 2008 18:59
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Re: Error while building

Hi Peter,

Peter wrote:
> AFAICS  ccl:lib;toolequ  is in versions of MCL 
> prior to 5.2 but not in 5.2 or MCL 5.1 demo.
> It seems to load OK under 5.2.

Interesting. However, OM does seem to load fine with MCL-5.1-demo, and 
only throws the error with MCL 5.2. I can't seem to find the file 
(toolequ.lisp, I'm guessing) in either distribution, though.

> I don't think you can save world images under 
> LispWorks Personal Edition (free), and it is heap 
> size and time limited.

I haven't run into a time limit for the Personal Edition, but you are 
correct on the first two points.

> You've just missed a 1/2 price deal on LW Professional Edition.

:-) of course!

Thanks again,
Scott
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Andrew Shalit | 26 Nov 2008 22:12
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International Lisp Conference 2009

The 2009 ILC will be held in Cambridge, Mass.  Many Clozurites will be  
in attendance.  If you have something you'd like to share, please  
consider submitting a paper.  Regardless of that, we hope that you'll  
attend.

----

             CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

          INTERNATIONAL LISP CONFERENCE 2009

               Lisp: The Next 50 Years

         http://www.international-lisp-conference.org

        Massachusetts Institute of Technology
            Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
              March 22-25, 2009

          Sponsored by the Association of Lisp Users

General Information:

The Association of Lisp Users is pleased to announce the 2009
International Lisp Conference will be held in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Sunday
through Wednesday, March 22-25, 2009.  The emphasis will be on present
and future applications of technologies that have been or might soon
be associated with the Lisp programming language and/or related
languages and software.
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