Alexander Repenning | 6 Feb 2008 05:01
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standard output in CCL

In CCL output, e.g., (format  t ...) goes into the listener if one evals in listener or editor - good - but any output running in other threads, e.g., in mouse event listener appears to go into the OS X console. Is there a way to change that? We would like to have all output to go to the listener. There is the *debug-io* but it defaults to the *terminal-io* as synonym stream. Output into the OS X console is, for our application, not very practical because it appears there with much delay making interactive debugging of event listeners tricky.

Any hints appreciated,  thanks  Alex


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Pascal Costanza | 10 Feb 2008 15:08

ELS'08 deadline extension

Hi,

Please note that we have extended the submission deadline for original  
papers for the European Lisp Symposium 2008. The submission deadline  
is now February 25, 2008.

Find more information about the European Lisp Symposium at http://prog.vub.ac.be/~pcostanza/els08/

Best,
Pascal

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Toomas Altosaar | 12 Feb 2008 09:26
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Save image problem with MCL 5.1 on 10.5.1

Has anyone tried to save an image with MCL 5.1 on OS X 10.5.1?

I seem to be able to compile and load code, but when it comes to 
saving an image I get:

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Unhandled exception of type 4 at 0xfffeff18
Read operation to unmapped address 0xc00433f7
  In foreign code at address 0xfffeff18
? for help
MCL kernel debugger> B

(#xbfffdc70) #x920BBD40 : _CMSEncoderCopyEncodedContent + 28513052
(#xbfffe010) #x90A0CAF4 : _CMSEncoderCopyEncodedContent + 4726992
(#xbfffe850) #x930A2AB8 : _DumpWhichInfo + 41325204
(#xbfffe8b0) #x9315746C : _DumpWhichInfo + 42064968
(#xbfffe930) #x931572BC : _DumpWhichInfo + 42064536
(#xbfffe9d0) #x931571F8 : _DumpWhichInfo + 42064340
(#xBFFFEA30) #x01001988 : foreign code (unknown)
(#xBFFFEA70) #x01112270 : #<Function GET-NEXT-EVENT #x026f8f4e> + 596
(#xBFFFEA80) #x01102FEC : #<Function %EVENT-DISPATCH #x026ed706> + 672
(#xBFFFEA90) #x01102F48 : #<Function %EVENT-DISPATCH #x026ed706> + 508
(#xBFFFEAA0) #x01111D48 : #<Function CMAIN #x026f8d16> + 316
(#xBFFFEAB0) #x0081DE68 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFEAC0) #x004CD5C4 : #<Anonymous Function #x02485d76> + 272
(#xBFFFEAD0) #x004CD510 : #<Anonymous Function #x02485d76> + 92
(#xBFFFEAE0) #x0081DE68 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFEAF0) #x004CD03C : #<Function FUNCALL-WITH-XP-STACK-FRAMES 
#x02485d2e> + 536
(#xBFFFEB00) #x004CD460 : #<Function CMAIN #x02485d56> + 580
(#xBFFFEB10) #x0081DE68 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFEB20) #x00395DC4 : #<Function %PASCAL-FUNCTIONS% #x023ad456> + 128
(#xBFFFEB30) #x0081D7FC : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xbfffeb40) #x0072FDE8 : _callback_to_lisp + 472
(#xBFFFF520) #x01103880 : #<Function EVENT-PROCESSING-LOOP #x026eddce> + 108
(#xBFFFF530) #x00374660 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFF540) #x003744B0 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFF550) #x0081C414 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFF560) #x0081C420 : (subprimitive unknown ?)
(#xBFFFF570) #x0081C4D8 : foreign code (unknown)
MCL kernel debugger>

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Is this a known problem or is it (hopefully) local to my setup?
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David Johnson-Davies | 20 Feb 2008 15:49
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Wood on MCL 5.1

I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from MCL 4.3
to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I change the
classes being stored in the database.

It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
correctly for instances already in the database.

Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?

Thanks,
David

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Alexander Repenning | 20 Feb 2008 18:15
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Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

you probably do not want to spend to much energy exploring this with MCL 5.2 being on its way to become open sourced and available. MCL 5.2 is much better than 5.1

alex


On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:49 AM, David Johnson-Davies wrote:

I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from MCL 4.3
to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I change the
classes being stored in the database.

It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
correctly for instances already in the database.

Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?

Thanks,
David

+------------------------------------------------------------+
David Johnson-Davies, Human-Computer Interface Ltd
17 Signet Court, Swanns Road, Cambridge, CB5 8LA, England.

Tel: +44 1223 314934, Fax: +44 1223 462562
Email: david-fDpYTK8McCy8qtKVGud/9w@public.gmane.org, Web: http://www.interface.co.uk/
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Janusz Podrazik | 20 Feb 2008 18:32

Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

where can we find more info about MCL 5.2? - any soon.

On 20 Feb 2008, at 18:15, Alexander Repenning wrote:

you probably do not want to spend to much energy exploring this with MCL 5.2 being on its way to become open sourced and available. MCL 5.2 is much better than 5.1

alex


On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:49 AM, David Johnson-Davies wrote:

I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from MCL 4.3
to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I change the
classes being stored in the database.

It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
correctly for instances already in the database.

Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?

Thanks,
David

+------------------------------------------------------------+
David Johnson-Davies, Human-Computer Interface Ltd
17 Signet Court, Swanns Road, Cambridge, CB5 8LA, England.

Tel: +44 1223 314934, Fax: +44 1223 462562
Email: david-fDpYTK8McCy8qtKVGud/9w@public.gmane.org, Web: http://www.interface.co.uk/
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svspire | 20 Feb 2008 19:25
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Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

David Johnson-Davies wrote:

> I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from MCL 4.3
> to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I change the
> classes being stored in the database.
> 
> It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
> correctly for instances already in the database.
> 
> Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?
> 
> Thanks,
> David

MCL's CLOS implementation changed pretty significantly between 4.3 and 
5.1. More precisely, 5.1 includes almost complete AMOP support where
4.3 did not. Furthermore, the :type argument on slots is now enforced,
where it was ignored before.

Code that depends on the internals of MCL 4.3's CLOS implementation is 
likely to break in 5.1. I don't remember if Wood falls into this 
category but I suspect it does.

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Sheldon Ball | 21 Feb 2008 02:50

Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

Hi Alexander,

Thanks for the update.
Is this Digitool MCL 5.2?
Is this for Intel Mac?

Thanks,
Sheldon

On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Alexander Repenning wrote:

you probably do not want to spend to much energy exploring this with MCL 5.2 being on its way to become open sourced and available. MCL 5.2 is much better than 5.1

alex


On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:49 AM, David Johnson-Davies wrote:

I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from MCL 4.3
to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I change the
classes being stored in the database.

It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
correctly for instances already in the database.

Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?

Thanks,
David

+------------------------------------------------------------+
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17 Signet Court, Swanns Road, Cambridge, CB5 8LA, England.

Tel: +44 1223 314934, Fax: +44 1223 462562
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Sheldon Ball | 21 Feb 2008 02:52

Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

Hi David,

WOOD works for me on MCL 5.0.
I haven't used MCL 5.1 because I found it slower than MCL 5.0.

Thanks.
Sheldon

On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:49 AM, David Johnson-Davies wrote:

> I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from  
> MCL 4.3
> to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I  
> change the
> classes being stored in the database.
>
> It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
> correctly for instances already in the database.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> +------------------------------------------------------------+
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> 17 Signet Court, Swanns Road, Cambridge, CB5 8LA, England.
>
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Ron Garret | 21 Feb 2008 07:44
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Re: Wood on MCL 5.1

FYI, my experience with WOOD is that it is a little sketchy even at  
its best.  I ran a WOOD application under OS 9 for a couple of months  
and then experienced unrecoverable database corruption.  YMMV of course.

rg

On Feb 20, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Sheldon Ball wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> WOOD works for me on MCL 5.0.
> I haven't used MCL 5.1 because I found it slower than MCL 5.0.
>
> Thanks.
> Sheldon
>
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:49 AM, David Johnson-Davies wrote:
>
>> I've recently been porting a number of Wood-based applications from
>> MCL 4.3
>> to MCL 5.1 and I'm getting a lot of unbound-slot errors when I
>> change the
>> classes being stored in the database.
>>
>> It seems as if Wood is failing to initialise the value of a new slot
>> correctly for instances already in the database.
>>
>> Has anyone else encountered this and is there a fix?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>> +------------------------------------------------------------+
>> David Johnson-Davies, Human-Computer Interface Ltd
>> 17 Signet Court, Swanns Road, Cambridge, CB5 8LA, England.
>>
>> Tel: +44 1223 314934, Fax: +44 1223 462562
>> Email: david@..., Web: http://www.interface.co.uk/
>> +------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
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