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Soldant | 2 Jul 2003 07:54
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Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav | 8 Jul 2003 17:46
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FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

I expect some reply to ensure that this is not dummy mailbox.
	--Slava

-----Original Message-----
From: Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:45 PM
To: 'bug-guile <at> gnu.org'
Cc: Denis Briltz (E-mail)
Subject: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

Hi there!
Because Intel compiler doesn't support asm inlines on IA64 I cannot compile
guile from sources on IA64 due to SCM_FENCE macro from libguile/__scm.h.
Here is this macro:
/* Anthony Green writes:
   When the compiler sees...
           DEFER_INTS;
           [critical code here]
           ALLOW_INTS;
   ...it doesn't actually promise to keep the critical code within the
   boundries of the DEFER/ALLOW_INTS instructions. It may very well
   schedule it outside of the magic defined in those macros.

   However, GCC's volatile asm feature forms a barrier over which code is
   never moved. So if you add...
           asm ("");
   ...to each of the DEFER_INTS and ALLOW_INTS macros, the critical
   code will always remain in place.  asm's without inputs or outputs
   are implicitly volatile. */
#ifdef __GNUC__
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Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav | 9 Jul 2003 07:03
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RE: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

Starting from 8.0 Intel compiler defines GNUC macroses.
Thanks for response.
	--Slava

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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [mailto:ttn <at> glug.org]
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Subject: Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>
   Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:46:20 +0400 

   -#ifdef __GNUC__
   +#if defined(__GNUC__) && !(defined(__INTEL_COMPILER) ...

why does the intel compiler define __GNUC__ ?
perhaps there is a bug in another guile header?

thi

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Thien-Thi Nguyen | 9 Jul 2003 11:44

Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>
   Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:03:57 +0400 

   Starting from 8.0 Intel compiler defines GNUC macroses.

that's very strange (IMHO).  anyway, does the intel compiler have plans
to support ia64 inline asm in the future?  we would have to change the
code again at that time.

thi

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Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav | 9 Jul 2003 11:49
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RE: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

No, Intel compiler doesn't plan to support ia64 asm inlines in foreseeable
future.
	--Slava

-----Original Message-----
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [mailto:ttn <at> glug.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:44 PM
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Cc: Briltz, Denis; bug-guile <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>
   Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:03:57 +0400 

   Starting from 8.0 Intel compiler defines GNUC macroses.

that's very strange (IMHO).  anyway, does the intel compiler have plans
to support ia64 inline asm in the future?  we would have to change the
code again at that time.

thi

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Thien-Thi Nguyen | 9 Jul 2003 12:24

Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>
   Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:49:20 +0400 

   No, Intel compiler doesn't plan to support ia64 asm inlines in
   foreseeable future.

looking at __scm.h closely, i see the inline asm is just an
implementation detail of SCM_FENCE, but SCM_FENCE is important
anyway (having it be defined to be nothing is indeed dangerous).

so the question becomes: does the intel compiler have an alternate
method to guarantee ordering as required by SCM_FENCE?  sorry for
not asking this earlier, when you had said you would be willing to
dig into the issue.

thi

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Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav | 9 Jul 2003 14:23
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RE: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

There is intrinsic in Intel compiler: void __memory_barrier(void);
This intrinsic does not generate code, but it creates a barrier across which
the compiler will not schedule data access instructions. Is this what is
needed?
	--Slava

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To: Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav
Cc: Briltz, Denis; bug-guile <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>
   Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:49:20 +0400 

   No, Intel compiler doesn't plan to support ia64 asm inlines in
   foreseeable future.

looking at __scm.h closely, i see the inline asm is just an
implementation detail of SCM_FENCE, but SCM_FENCE is important
anyway (having it be defined to be nothing is indeed dangerous).

so the question becomes: does the intel compiler have an alternate
method to guarantee ordering as required by SCM_FENCE?  sorry for
not asking this earlier, when you had said you would be willing to
dig into the issue.

thi
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Thien-Thi Nguyen | 9 Jul 2003 16:26

Re: FW: problem compiling guile on IA64 by Intel compiler

   Delivery-date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 08:23:23 -0400
   From: "Sysoltsev, Vyatcheslav" <vyatcheslav.sysoltsev <at> intel.com>

   void __memory_barrier(void);
   Is this what is needed?

i believe so.  perhaps inhibition of only data-access instructions is
not as strong as is necessary, but it's a start.  code for 1.4.x now
reads as follows:

#if defined (__INTEL_COMPILER) && defined (__ia64)
#define SCM_FENCE __memory_barrier()
#else
...
#endif

we can update this should it prove insufficient.  thanks for the info.

thi

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