Re: clisp: cvs --> hg
Sam Steingold <sds <at> gnu.org>
2009-06-05 21:16:55 GMT
Blake McBride wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Sam Steingold <sds <at> gnu.org
> <mailto:sds <at> gnu.org>> wrote:
>
> I would like to convert the clisp cvs repository to hg (mercurial).
> Any objections?
>
> The world used to use CVS. The world has switched or is largely in the
> process of switching to Subversion.
believe it or not, I have never used svn.
(except for once or twice when I used it to get a hold of some package, iow, I
only used "svn co").
> I don't doubt that Mercurial has
> some advantages, I just very seriously doubt that those features warrant
> learning and supporting (think IDE) yet another source code control system.
actually, Emacs supports hg/git/bzr just fine.
> I think you should either stay with CVS or switch to Subversion
CVS and SVN are going the way of RCS to extinction.
While there are (and there always will be) users for any obsolete technology
(think of people running dosemu/freedos to play their favorite dos games),
conceptually CVS and SVN are just as obsolete as fortran.
A switch to svn is not happening.
> Please don't force me/us to get and learn a SCCS
> just for one package!
I certainly do not wish to go down in history as someone who forced you or
someone else to learn how to use a DVCS. 
Well, on a second thought, maybe I do.
Maybe you will thank me later.
> I'm sure it's cool and we all love to play with
> another cute toy but it is a real hassle for many of the rest of us. I,
> for one, would rather stick to your normal distributions than
> install/learn another SCCS.
let me get it straight:
The choice is not "whether" it's "when" and "what".
cvs and svn are falling out of use, just google for news of people switching
away from them (e.g., python switched to hg this spring).
today, or tomorrow, or next year you WILL have to learn hg or git (probably both).
I understand that you do not want to start now, and we can talk about
postponing the conversion (say, till the fall), but this is inevitable.
I understand that hg might not be the best tool, some people like git better.
I am open to discussion about that too (although I am pretty comfortable with
hg while the 144 separate executables which comprise git give me creeps).
> Subversion is good enough.
it is not. sorry.
http://codicesoftware.blogspot.com/2007/05/linus-torvalds-on-git-and-scm.html
"Subversion has been the most pointless project ever started.
Subversion used to say CVS done right: with that slogan there is nowhere you
can go. There is no way to do cvs right."
Sam.
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