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Ken Tilton | 15 Jul 2006 19:43
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Fwd: web applications with Cells

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From: Ken Tilton <kentilton <at> gmail.com>
Date: Jul 15, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: web applications with Cells
To: "Andrew K. Wolven" <awolven <at> yahoo.com>

On 7/14/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you use allegro?

yes.

> I think it would be useful to have persistent Cells
> objects,

yes, I have done that in the past with Allegrostore, may do it someday
with Rucksack.

>where the slots are indexable.  I believe that Cells flat updates
> contents of all dependent slots on trigger.  So you can index the slots.
>
> Anyway,
> I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that look like M$), and
> then I found a much better javascript object-oriented window system which
> can do Mac OS X looking windows among other things.

Nice, what is that system?

>
> When the window jumps up, it keeps open a persistent connection (and I'm
> reading a webpage on how to do this), the server can send information to a
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Ken Tilton | 15 Jul 2006 21:50
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Re: web applications with Cells

On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Anyway,
> >> I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that look like M$),
> >> and
> >> then I found a much better javascript object-oriented window system which
> >> can do Mac OS X looking windows among other things.
> >
> > Nice, what is that system?
>
> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/

cool. thanks.

>
> > Why do you want it to be lazy? And your sentence is confusing. "Lazy"
> > would not be inefficient, it would make things harder to program.
> > Puzzled.
> >
> > kt
>
> Because a javascript object in the browser would tell a lazy evaluation
> system on the server to make it's attributes "stale", but the server would
> do no action to update the other javascript object (with those persistent
> http connections).  The other javascript objects would have to demand a
> value from the server, but they don't know that they are supposed to.  So
> the browser update would never happen.

I understand. Lazy works only in certain application roles, and this
requirement sounds the opposite: eagerly bring a second view current
with the first.
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GP lisper | 18 Jul 2006 19:17

Re: web applications with Cells

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that
>> >> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>> >> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>> >> windows among other things.
>> >
>> > Nice, what is that system?
>>
>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/

This doesn't seem to exist.

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Andrew K. Wolven | 20 Jul 2006 22:56
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Re: Re: web applications with Cells


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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: [cells-devel] Re: web applications with Cells

> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that
>>> >> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>>> >> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>>> >> windows among other things.
>>> >
>>> > Nice, what is that system?
>>>
>>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/
> 
> This doesn't seem to exist.
> 

It works for me.  Try again later.

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Ken Tilton | 20 Jul 2006 23:05
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Re: Re: web applications with Cells

Sorry meant that for the list

On 7/20/06, Ken Tilton <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:



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Subject: [cells-devel] Re: web applications with Cells


> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com > wrote:
>> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com > wrote:
>>> >> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that
>>> >> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>>> >> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>>> >> windows among other things.
>>> >
>>> > Nice, what is that system?
>>>
>>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/
>
> This doesn't seem to exist.


Could you be more specific? I found the site, DLed the package, unzipped OK, stopped there.

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GP lisper | 21 Jul 2006 19:01

Re: web applications with Cells

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:05:51 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com > wrote:
>> > >>> >> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser (that
>> > >>> >> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>> > >>> >> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>> > >>> >> windows among other things.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Nice, what is that system?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/
>> > >
>> > > This doesn't seem to exist.
>>
>> Could you be more specific? I found the site, DLed the package, unzipped
>> OK, stopped there.

For me:

** server can't find http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/: NXDOMAIN

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Frank Goenninger | 21 Jul 2006 19:41
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Fwd: Re: web applications with Cells

> Am 21.07.2006 um 19:01 schrieb GP lisper:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:05:51 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser  
>>>>>>>>>> (that
>>>>>>>>>> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>>>>>>>>>> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>>>>>>>>>> windows among other things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice, what is that system?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This doesn't seem to exist.
>>>>
>>>> Could you be more specific? I found the site, DLed the package,  
>>>> unzipped
>>>> OK, stopped there.
>>
>>
>> For me:
>>
>> ** server can't find http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/:  
>> NXDOMAIN
>

Nameserver problem.

You on Linux? If so, do:

$ nslookup www.prototype-window.xilinus.com

and tell us what the output is.

Cheers,
    Frank

> Nameserver problem.
>
> You on Linux? If so, do:
>
> $ nslookup www.prototype-window.xilinus.com
>
> and tell us what the output is.
>
> Cheers
>     Frank
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GP lisper | 24 Jul 2006 22:49

Re: Fwd: Re: web applications with Cells

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:41:58 +0200, <fgoenninger <at> prion.de> wrote:
>> Am 21.07.2006 um 19:01 schrieb GP lisper:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:05:51 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:50:30 -0400, <kentilton <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/15/06, Andrew K. Wolven <awolven <at> yahoo.com > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I have made my own javascript-windows-in-a-browser  
>>>>>>>>>>> (that
>>>>>>>>>>> look like M$), and then I found a much better javascript
>>>>>>>>>>> object-oriented window system which can do Mac OS X looking
>>>>>>>>>>> windows among other things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nice, what is that system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This doesn't seem to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you be more specific? I found the site, DLed the package,  
>>>>> unzipped
>>>>> OK, stopped there.
>>>
>>>
>>> For me:
>>>
>>> ** server can't find http://www.prototype-window.xilinus.com/:  
>>> NXDOMAIN
>>
>
> Nameserver problem.
>
> You on Linux? If so, do:
>
> $ nslookup www.prototype-window.xilinus.com
>
> and tell us what the output is.

You've read it (note the part about 'server').  The nameserver problem
is obviously that the domain NS are blocked from my location.  The
standard workaround is to post what IP address someone else obtains.

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