Kai Staats | 4 May 00:58 2009

Re: [ydl-gen] Looking for advice.

All,

> With my late 2005 iBook it has not been since much later
> kernels and Xorg releases that accelerated X11 has been available.  In
> terms of YDL, the 6.0 release had a limited accelerated X11, but the
> big improvement came with YDL6.1 with a self-compiled kernel
> (linux-2.6.27.8 again).

Sorry for the terribly long delay. A very simple HOWTO now exists to gain 2D 
accel video with some Apple PowerPC products:

http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_6.x/2D_acceleration.shtml

Sincerely,
kai
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Joe Duchtel | 4 May 14:17 2009
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[ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

Hello -

We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power.

I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came with them.

Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power connection using nvram?

Thanks!
Joe

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Kai Staats | 4 May 18:15 2009

Re: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

Joe,

> We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able
> to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be
> entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on
> is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found
> power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out
> how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power.
>
> I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not
> via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished
> G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came
> with them.
>
> Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power
> connection using nvram?

I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I need 
to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done?

kai
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Hal Martin | 5 May 03:00 2009
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Re: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

Not to steal this thread, but I thought this question looked familiar!

The same question was asked back in June 2008:

Pulled from a discussion about how to do the same on a PowerMac G4. I
don't own an XServe, so your mileage may vary, but it should work.

echo 'server_mode=1' > /proc/pmu/options

-Hal

Kai Staats wrote:
> Joe,
>
>   
>> We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able
>> to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be
>> entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on
>> is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found
>> power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out
>> how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power.
>>
>> I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not
>> via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished
>> G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came
>> with them.
>>
>> Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power
>> connection using nvram?
>>     
>
> I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I need 
> to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done?
>
> kai
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Corey | 5 May 05:25 2009
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[ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17

Hi all.

I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4.

When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of
http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and
restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default
theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded
from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for
installing the theme:

1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/
2. Open up the themes configuration.
3. Click the Personal button.
4. Click the theme.
5. Click the OK button.

As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the
"Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error
message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it
does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that
previous theme.

Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried:

1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj
2. A-illume-Blue.edj
3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj
4. grunge.edj
5. pce17os_new_h.edj
6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj

I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is
that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files
that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very
latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running
0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site
is 0.16.999.060.

I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and
install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if
there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be
aware of that you could point me to.

As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories
have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can
think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working.

Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17
that comes with YDL6.1?

If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how
to get it working.

Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1?

Thanks,
Corey
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Hal Martin | 5 May 12:47 2009
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Re: [ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17

Corey wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4.
>
> When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of
> http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and
> restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default
> theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded
> from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for
> installing the theme:
>
> 1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/
> 2. Open up the themes configuration.
> 3. Click the Personal button.
> 4. Click the theme.
> 5. Click the OK button.
>   
Yup, that's the way to add themes in DR17.
> As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the
> "Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error
> message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it
> does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that
> previous theme.
>   
Yes, if I recall my beta testing of YDL 6.1 correctly, downloaded themes
do not work on the YDL builds of Enlightenment.
> Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried:
>
> 1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj
> 2. A-illume-Blue.edj
> 3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj
> 4. grunge.edj
> 5. pce17os_new_h.edj
> 6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj
>
> I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is
> that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files
> that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very
> latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running
> 0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site
> is 0.16.999.060.
>   
Even the snapshots on their website are, at times, out of date. If
you're looking for the newest, shiniest, version of DR17 (beware of
bugs!) I would suggest using their SVN repository.
> I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and
> install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if
> there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be
> aware of that you could point me to.
>   
On Gentoo, which I'm running on my desktop (although granted my desktop
is an x86_64 machine) there is a script called 'e17update' that
basically handles all the svn checkouts and building of the libraries
for DR17. It is, however, rather tied to emerge and layman, so it may
not be of much use to you.
> As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories
> have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can
> think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working.
>
> Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17
> that comes with YDL6.1?
>   
Yes, I encountered this problem during my beta testing of YDL 6.1. If I
recall correctly, it's a known issue that I'm not sure was ever
pinpointed or resolved.
> If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how
> to get it working.
>
> Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1?
>   
The easiest way is to use their svn repository and build by hand. As
tedious as that sounds, in my opinion it's not that much work. I'm sure
someone who is more adept at bash scripting then myself could, or has,
written a script to automatically build enlightenment, similar to e17update.

-Hal
> Thanks,
> Corey
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Corey | 5 May 15:59 2009
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Re: [ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Hal Martin <hal.martin <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Corey wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4.
>>
>> When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of
>> http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and
>> restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default
>> theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded
>> from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for
>> installing the theme:
>>
>> 1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/
>> 2. Open up the themes configuration.
>> 3. Click the Personal button.
>> 4. Click the theme.
>> 5. Click the OK button.
>>
> Yup, that's the way to add themes in DR17.
>> As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the
>> "Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error
>> message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it
>> does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that
>> previous theme.
>>
> Yes, if I recall my beta testing of YDL 6.1 correctly, downloaded themes
> do not work on the YDL builds of Enlightenment.
>> Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried:
>>
>> 1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj
>> 2. A-illume-Blue.edj
>> 3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj
>> 4. grunge.edj
>> 5. pce17os_new_h.edj
>> 6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj
>>
>> I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is
>> that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files
>> that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very
>> latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running
>> 0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site
>> is 0.16.999.060.
>>
> Even the snapshots on their website are, at times, out of date. If
> you're looking for the newest, shiniest, version of DR17 (beware of
> bugs!) I would suggest using their SVN repository.
>> I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and
>> install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if
>> there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be
>> aware of that you could point me to.
>>
> On Gentoo, which I'm running on my desktop (although granted my desktop
> is an x86_64 machine) there is a script called 'e17update' that
> basically handles all the svn checkouts and building of the libraries
> for DR17. It is, however, rather tied to emerge and layman, so it may
> not be of much use to you.
>> As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories
>> have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can
>> think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working.
>>
>> Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17
>> that comes with YDL6.1?
>>
> Yes, I encountered this problem during my beta testing of YDL 6.1. If I
> recall correctly, it's a known issue that I'm not sure was ever
> pinpointed or resolved.
>> If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how
>> to get it working.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1?
>>
> The easiest way is to use their svn repository and build by hand. As
> tedious as that sounds, in my opinion it's not that much work. I'm sure
> someone who is more adept at bash scripting then myself could, or has,
> written a script to automatically build enlightenment, similar to e17update.
>
> -Hal

Ok, I'll go ahead and finish building by hand. Thanks! - Corey

>> Thanks,
>> Corey
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Joe Duchtel | 6 May 20:27 2009
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Re: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

Hello -
 
This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g. login screen) and then reconnect it.  It is not working if I shut it down properly from the login screen.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks!
Joe


 
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Hal Martin <hal.martin <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Not to steal this thread, but I thought this question looked familiar!

The same question was asked back in June 2008:

Pulled from a discussion about how to do the same on a PowerMac G4. I
don't own an XServe, so your mileage may vary, but it should work.

echo 'server_mode=1' > /proc/pmu/options

-Hal

Kai Staats wrote:
> Joe,
>
>
>> We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able
>> to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be
>> entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on
>> is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found
>> power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out
>> how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power.
>>
>> I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not
>> via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished
>> G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came
>> with them.
>>
>> Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power
>> connection using nvram?
>>
>
> I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I need
> to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done?
>
> kai
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Kai Staats | 6 May 20:31 2009

Re: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

Joe,

> This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g.
> login screen) and then reconnect it.  It is not working if I shut it down
> properly from the login screen.
>
> Any ideas?

If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan to 
power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple G4/G5 
systems.

If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever).

kai
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Joe Duchtel | 6 May 20:36 2009
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Re: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ...

That's what I was afraid of!   I have been using "magic packages" to do this for (even older) PCs for a while and have yet to find one that does not support it.
 
Maybe there is another "magic" trick?
 
Thanks!
Joe


 
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Kai Staats <kstaats <at> us.fixstars.com> wrote:
Joe,

> This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g.
> login screen) and then reconnect it.  It is not working if I shut it down
> properly from the login screen.
>
> Any ideas?

If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan to
power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple G4/G5
systems.

If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever).

kai
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