Ted Parks | 26 May 15:41 2016
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Dropped connection, HP Stream

The wireless connection drops on my HP Stream 11 running Xubuntu 16.04 unless I am close to an AP.

I am currently using a USB wireless adapter with a Realtek RTL8188EUS chip. But I had the same problem with Ubuntu 16.04 using the onboard Broadcom BCM43142 card.

I am especially baffled by the same issue even when using two different cards and drivers.

iwconfig:
wlxec086b0c3f21 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"ATT6YXb2IG" Nickname:"<WIFI <at> REALTEK>"
          Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452 GHz Access Point: DC:7F:A4:99:73:B6
          Bit Rate:65 Mb/s Sensitivity:0/0
          Retry:off RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:****-****-****-****-****-****-****-**** Security mode:open
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=2/100 Noise level=0/100
          Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

This is something beyond a driver problem, right? How can I fix it?
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<div>The wireless connection drops on my HP Stream 11 running Xubuntu 16.04 unless I am close to an AP.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I am currently using a USB wireless adapter with a Realtek RTL8188EUS chip. But I had the same problem with Ubuntu 16.04 using the onboard Broadcom BCM43142 card.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I am especially baffled by the same issue even when using two different cards and drivers.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>iwconfig:</div>
<div>wlxec086b0c3f21 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"ATT6YXb2IG" Nickname:"&lt;WIFI <at> REALTEK&gt;"</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mode:Managed Frequency:2.452 GHz Access Point: DC:7F:A4:99:73:B6</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Bit Rate:65 Mb/s Sensitivity:0/0</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Retry:off RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Encryption key:****-****-****-****-****-****-****-**** Security mode:open</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Power Management:off</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=2/100 Noise level=0/100</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>This is something beyond a driver problem, right? How can I fix it?</div>
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odm | 26 May 00:33 2016
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Re: 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms? (JMZ)

Interesting. Now I see how one does this.
1. canonical-kernel-team ppa
2. xubuntu-dev ppa.

So, do you install the current release, stick in the ppa repos and what?
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  OR
is it release-upgrade?

Thanks.



mikodo


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4. Re: 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms? (Petter Adsen)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400
From: JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com>
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
<xubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?
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Hi,

I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next
release. Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?
canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on
kernel 4.6.0.

Thanks
Jordan



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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 05:22:30 +0200
From: Julez <s.julez <at> gmail.com>
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
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Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?
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If you're worried about any problems and issues you really shouldn't run an alpha Release.

I mean...it's alpha for a reason...

Am 25. Mai 2016 02:54:43 MESZ, schrieb JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com>:
>Hi,
>
>I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next
>release. Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?
>canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on
>kernel 4.6.0.
>
>Thanks
>Jordan
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From: JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com>
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
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I'm not worried. Just wondering ... I'll can it now.

Jordan

On 05/24/2016 11:22 PM, Julez wrote:
> If you're worried about any problems and issues you really shouldn't
> run an alpha Release.
>
> I mean...it's alpha for a reason...
>
> Am 25. Mai 2016 02:54:43 MESZ, schrieb JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next
> release. Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?
> canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on
> kernel 4.6.0.
>
> Thanks
> Jordan
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:02:52 +0200
From: Petter Adsen <petter <at> synth.no>
To: xubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400
JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next
> release. Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety
> alpha? canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice
> to be on kernel 4.6.0.

The obvious thing to look for in a development release is problems :)
About the only reason I can think of to run yakkety at such an early
stage is to help find and fix bugs.

You might want to consider running yakkety in a VM or container, and
have a regular release as a base. That way you can help with testing,
have access to the newer packages and use a more stable system for
everyday tasks.

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:14:40 +0100
From: flocculant <at> gmx.co.uk
To: xubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?
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On 25/05/16 08:02, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400
> JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next
>> release. Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety
>> alpha? canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice
>> to be on kernel 4.6.0.
> The obvious thing to look for in a development release is problems :)
> About the only reason I can think of to run yakkety at such an early
> stage is to help find and fix bugs.
>
> You might want to consider running yakkety in a VM or container, and
> have a regular release as a base. That way you can help with testing,
> have access to the newer packages and use a more stable system for
> everyday tasks.
>
> Petter
>
As Petter says - look for bugs - and report them :)

If you're happy running with the dev version - do it - I'll not argue
about that.

I do that - and in fact set yakkety up the day after xenial was released.

I would though make sure you've either got another yak build running
behind on updates, or a previous and supported version.

You'll find that the dev mailing list [1] is where you'll see mails
about what's going on with the development version.

You might want to consider actually being in contact with us - it's not
often that we find someone who's testing dev version outside where we
normally look :) [2,3]

regards

Kev

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[2] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 03:25:26 -0400
From: JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com>
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
<xubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?
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Hi Kev,

Okay no problem. I'm on the list and I'll contribute any bugs or
quirks. I can dig up another machine and run xenial on it if I have to.

Thanks
Jordan



On 05/25/2016 03:14 AM, flocculant <at> gmx.co.uk wrote:
> On 25/05/16 08:02, Petter Adsen wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400
>> JMZ <florentior <at> gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Petter
>>
> As Petter says - look for bugs - and report them :)
>
> If you're happy running with the dev version - do it - I'll not argue
> about that.
>
> I do that - and in fact set yakkety up the day after xenial was released.
>
> I would though make sure you've either got another yak build running
> behind on updates, or a previous and supported version.
>
> You'll find that the dev mailing list [1] is where you'll see mails
> about what's going on with the development version.
>
> You might want to consider actually being in contact with us - it's
> not often that we find someone who's testing dev version outside where
> we normally look :) [2,3]
>
> regards
>
> Kev
>
> [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
> [2] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
> [3] http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
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<div>Interesting. Now I see how one does this.<br>
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<div>1. canonical-kernel-team ppa<br>
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<div>2. xubuntu-dev ppa.<br>
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<div>So, do you install the current release, stick in the ppa repos and what? <br>
</div>
<div>sudo apt-get update &amp;&amp; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade&nbsp; OR<br>
</div>
<div>is it release-upgrade?<br>
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<div>Thanks.<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next <br>
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release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?  <br>
</div>
<div>
canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on <br>
</div>
<div>
kernel 4.6.0.<br>
</div>
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<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Jordan<br>
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Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?<br>
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If you're worried about any problems and issues you really shouldn't run an alpha Release.<br>
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I mean...it's alpha for a reason...<br>
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&gt;Hi,<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt;I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next <br>
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&gt;release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?  <br>
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&gt;canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on <br>
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&gt;kernel 4.6.0.<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt;Thanks<br>
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&gt; If you're worried about any problems and issues you really shouldn't <br>
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&gt; run an alpha Release.<br>
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&gt;     release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?<br>
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&gt;     canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on<br>
</div>
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&gt;     kernel 4.6.0.<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt;     Thanks<br>
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&gt; release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety<br>
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&gt; alpha? canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice<br>
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The obvious thing to look for in a development release is problems :)<br>
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About the only reason I can think of to run yakkety at such an early<br>
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You might want to consider running yakkety in a VM or container, and<br>
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have a regular release as a base. That way you can help with testing,<br>
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have access to the newer packages and use a more stable system for<br>
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everyday tasks.<br>
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:14:40 +0100<br>
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From: flocculant <at> gmx.co.uk<br>
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To: xubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com<br>
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Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?<br>
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On 25/05/16 08:02, Petter Adsen wrote:<br>
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&gt; On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400<br>
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&gt; JMZ &lt;florentior <at> gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
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&gt;&gt; I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next<br>
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&gt;&gt; release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety<br>
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&gt;&gt; alpha? canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice<br>
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&gt;&gt; to be on kernel 4.6.0.<br>
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&gt; The obvious thing to look for in a development release is problems :)<br>
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&gt; About the only reason I can think of to run yakkety at such an early<br>
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&gt; stage is to help find and fix bugs.<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt; You might want to consider running yakkety in a VM or container, and<br>
</div>
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&gt; have a regular release as a base. That way you can help with testing,<br>
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&gt; have access to the newer packages and use a more stable system for<br>
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&gt; everyday tasks.<br>
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&gt; Petter<br>
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As Petter says - look for bugs - and report them :)<br>
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If you're happy running with the dev version - do it - I'll not argue <br>
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about that.<br>
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I do that - and in fact set yakkety up the day after xenial was released.<br>
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I would though make sure you've either got another yak build running <br>
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behind on updates, or a previous and supported version.<br>
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You'll find that the dev mailing list [1] is where you'll see mails <br>
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about what's going on with the development version.<br>
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You might want to consider actually being in contact with us - it's not <br>
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often that we find someone who's testing dev version outside where we <br>
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normally look :) [2,3]<br>
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regards<br>
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 03:25:26 -0400<br>
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From: JMZ &lt;florentior <at> gmail.com&gt;<br>
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To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions<br>
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Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] 16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?<br>
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Hi Kev,<br>
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Okay no problem.  I'm on the list and I'll contribute any bugs or <br>
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quirks.  I can dig up another machine and run xenial on it if I have to.<br>
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On 05/25/2016 03:14 AM, flocculant <at> gmx.co.uk wrote:<br>
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&gt; On 25/05/16 08:02, Petter Adsen wrote:<br>
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&gt;&gt; On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:54:43 -0400<br>
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&gt;&gt; JMZ &lt;florentior <at> gmail.com&gt; wrote<br>
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&gt;&gt; Petter<br>
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&gt; As Petter says - look for bugs - and report them :)<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt; If you're happy running with the dev version - do it - I'll not argue <br>
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&gt; about that.<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt; I do that - and in fact set yakkety up the day after xenial was released.<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt; I would though make sure you've either got another yak build running <br>
</div>
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&gt; behind on updates, or a previous and supported version.<br>
</div>
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&gt;<br>
</div>
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&gt; You'll find that the dev mailing list [1] is where you'll see mails <br>
</div>
<div>
&gt; about what's going on with the development version.<br>
</div>
<div>
&gt;<br>
</div>
<div>
&gt; You might want to consider actually being in contact with us - it's <br>
</div>
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&gt; not often that we find someone who's testing dev version outside where <br>
</div>
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&gt; we normally look :) [2,3]<br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt; regards<br>
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&gt; Kev<br>
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JMZ | 25 May 02:54 2016
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16.10 Yakkety alpha: signs and symptoms?

Hi,

I usually go bold and run the early development version of the next 
release.  Is there anything I should look for in 16.10 Yakkety alpha?  
canonical-kernel-team ppa and xubuntu-dev ppa work fine. Nice to be on 
kernel 4.6.0.

Thanks
Jordan

Alejandro Comisario | 23 May 21:47 2016

Microphone not working on MacBookpro 15 (version 8.2) and Xubuntu 16.04

I have a Macbook pro 15 (version 8.2) with Xubuntu 14.04 the mic
worked out of the box, with xubuntu 16.04

* upgraded from 14.04
* fresh install

The mic does'nt get any signal, i have tried these:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/482626/microphone-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-on-macbookpro10-2

with no luck.
any help will be more than apreciated.

thanks

alejandrito

H. Schreiber | 23 May 21:34 2016
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xubuntu "software" do not load an work

Can you help me?

Tong Sun | 21 May 02:57 2016

Is gtk engines necessary for Xfce/Xubuntu?


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:

What is responsible for applying styling to Gtk+ applications when logged into the Xubuntu or Xfce sessions as opposed to other sessions? Almost everything* I have in the named sessions looks great, and responds well to my requests to apply styling; but when I'm using another desktop (or none at all), everything is very oversized, blocky, and ugly; and displays no semblance of whatever theme I had applied...

Yeah, there are always times when we get into a system that just doesn't look right, and the problem is nobody clearly knows what's missing that is causing it. 

I once read somewhere that it might be because missing gtk2-engines-xfce and gtk3-engines-xfce packages, and thus have been installing them since Xubuntu 11.10, but was never sure if it helps at all. 

But so many years passed by and those two package never made into Xubuntu. This make me wonder if they are necessary at all. 

Anyone knows? 

Or, let me ask this way, anyone know where to look if things like Eric described happens? 

Thanks


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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Eric Christopherson&nbsp;wrote:</div>
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<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">What is responsible for applying styling to Gtk+ applications when logged into the Xubuntu or Xfce sessions as opposed to other sessions? Almost everything* I have in the named sessions looks great, and responds well to my requests to apply styling; but when I'm using another desktop (or none at all), everything is very oversized, blocky, and ugly; and displays no semblance of whatever theme I had applied...</blockquote>
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<br>Yeah, there are always times when we get into a system that just doesn't look right, and the problem is nobody clearly knows what's missing that is causing it.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I once read somewhere that it might be because missing&nbsp;gtk2-engines-xfce and gtk3-engines-xfce packages, and thus have been installing them since&nbsp;Xubuntu 11.10, but was never sure if it helps at all.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">But so many years passed by and those two package never made into&nbsp;Xubuntu. This make me wonder if they are necessary at all.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Anyone knows?&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Or, let me ask this way, anyone know where to look if things like&nbsp;Eric described happens?&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks</div>
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> Xubuntu 14.04. When I'm updating, adobe-flash always takes an hour to
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Same here with adobe-flash installer. For me, it took about 15 min to
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pereira | 18 May 03:38 2016
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plug-and play monitor loses configuration

Hi All,

I got myself qn ASUS PB287Q 4 k monitor with 3840x2160 pixels, which I'm
using together with an older but still nice ACER X243W 1920x1200 monitor.
The ASUS can connect through a displayport, which allows it to refresh at a
60 Hz rate, and an HDMI port which allows only 30 Hz (apparently).

The problem is: the connection through a displayport is plug-and-play
(I've been told), so that my computer Xubuntu 14.10) notices that something
is amiss, and it switches over to the remaining screen. Something similar
happens when I forget to log out: tihe system hits some timeout, the
monitor turns off, and the display goes to the smaller screen.

I could decide to use the HDMI connection, but then the mouse crawls across
the screen with little jumps, a very irritating sight.

I could perhaps connect through a second HDMI connection to speed things
up. But, what I'd wonder about is: can you turn off the plug-and-play 
thingie
so that things stay alive the way I like them?

Any other suggestion for getting this monitor under control?

Thank you,

Nino

Lee Gold | 17 May 22:28 2016

adobe-flash always takes an hour to update

Hi,

Xubuntu 14.04. When I'm updating, adobe-flash always takes an hour to
update and holds the whole process up.

Is there a fix?

Thanks

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Tong Sun | 14 May 19:13 2016

XUbuntu Desktop selection

On the XUbuntu lightdm login prompt, there is a selection in UR corner, of choosing XFce or Ubuntu. 

I had always been wondering what's the differences between the two, but never bother to ask before. 

Please help. 
Thanks


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<div class="gmail_extra">On the&nbsp;XUbuntu lightdm login prompt, there is a selection in UR corner, of choosing XFce or Ubuntu.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I had always been wondering what's the differences between the two, but never bother to ask before.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Please help.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
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Tong Sun | 14 May 19:07 2016

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Xenial touchpad selection

I'm using XUbuntu 16.04, and the first thing I noticed is that the touchpad selection is different than I expected --

When I want to select a few words, I used to double-click with touchpad then drag along the direction to select the rest of the other words. 

However,under XUbuntu 16.04, double-clicking with touchpad will select the word, but the then-followed dragging do not have any effects. The selection remains at the initial selected word. 

Was it the way it used to be, or the way I was expecting? 

Thanks


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<div class="gmail_extra">I'm using XUbuntu 16.04, and the first thing I noticed is that the&nbsp;touchpad selection is different than I expected --</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">When I want to select a few words, I used to double-click with touchpad then drag along the direction to select the rest of the other words.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">However,under&nbsp;XUbuntu 16.04,&nbsp;double-clicking with touchpad will select the word, but the then-followed dragging do not have any effects. The selection remains at the initial selected word.&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Was it the way it used to be, or the way I was expecting?&nbsp;</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
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Gmane