Ken | 1 Nov 01:02 2009
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Re: Hibernate on dead battery

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:29:37 +0000, Ken wrote:

> I recently upgraded to Jaunty and I'm quite happy with it but there are
> a few little hiccups that I would like to resolve.  Most importantly,
> Jaunty doesn't hibernate on battery failure.  I've set the correct
> option, but I think the OS has an over estimate of the time left before
> it needs to hibernate.  Is there anyway to tell it to go ahead and
> hibernate when there are 10 minutes of battery life left or something
> similar?
> 
> Thanks!

I guess there is no way to handle this at this time?

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Florian Diesch | 1 Nov 01:09 2009
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Re: emacs frames behavior

Charlie Zender <zender <at> uci.edu> writes:

> once upon a time, until about 6 mos. - 1 yr. ago,
> each emacs frame i opened behaved like a sub-process
> of a single emacs process, e.g., if the same buffer
> were displayed in multiple frames then editing that
> buffer simultaneously updated all the frames.
> now, though, when i open multiple frames in emacs,
> the frames do not seem to know what's going on in the
> other frames. i have not changed how i start emacs
> at all. i like the old behavior better. anyone know
> how to recover it?

Using Emacs23 I start
  emacs --daemon --no-desktop
as a start program in Gnome and then open new frames using 
  emacsclient -c
or from withing Emacs. 

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Joep L. Blom | 1 Nov 01:44 2009
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Re: cifs mount not working after 9.10 upgrade

Chris Jones wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> I have just upgraded to the new 9.10 release and my smb connections  
>> work
>> automatically. I don't need to do a mount.cifs to see my shared
>> directories on my Windows systems. To be correct I haven't tried a
>> mount.cifs for obvious reasons.
> 
> I think it depends on the accessibility your shares have - If they  
> don't require a login  then your approach probably works fine.  Mine  
> do, and I have only ever been able to get them mounted with the full  
> mount.cifs command I posted earlier, with access credentials.
> 
> Chris
> 
Chris,
They require a login but I have Linux and Windows users shared and a;; 
users are also users on the main server.
Joep

Joep L. Blom | 1 Nov 01:46 2009
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Re: Upgradephobia!

Steve wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:59:36 -0000, Joep L. Blom <jlblom <at> neuroweave.nl>  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Normally I do that but today I was adventurous and accidentally started
>> upgrading my Karmic Beta and it did it not completely flawlessly as some
>> repositories were not reachable but otherwise chapeau for a very stable
>> upgrade path. Try that with commercial software.
>> Joep
>>
>>
>   I must admit, I’m constantly amazed at how well the upgrade process  
> works, even when the cat removed a power lead during an upgrade I was able  
> to rescue it.  I have one drive that has been upgraded from 5.10 and is  
> now fitted to it’s third different Mobo that I will be upgrading to 9.10  
> tomorrow, the only problems I’ve had are related to Flash and/or java, a  
> quick alteration of the appropriate simlinks cures it, or the variuos  
> third party repos
> I’ve probably jinxed it now.
Yes of course proprietary and proprietary (closed source).
Joep

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slowertraffickeepright | 1 Nov 01:57 2009
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Re: Linux: Silly hobby (Was: 9.10 UNR with AT&T 3G (was: PROBLEM SOLVED (was: THIS SUCKS! 3G problems)))

Doug wrote:
Art, all... is it really a wine(whine) to expect Ubuntu *NETBOOK* Remix to work with my OEM *NETBOOK*? Hardware I'm using is BUILT into this NETBOOK.

Art wrote:
Actually, I'd say Yes. There is such a variety of hardware sourced into different manufacturers equipment, it's impossible to keep up with it all. You think Microsoft does? Ha! If the video or wifi or sound card manufacturers weren't writing the software for Microsoft, half of what's out there wouldn't work. Trying doing a generic XP install instead of an OEM install,

Doug writes:
 ...wait a minute now, not fair to use XP as the example... more like doing a generic install with the latest, Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 head to head, which OS would have support for my Acer Aspire One 3G... I'd bet money Windows 7 worked right out of the box. But I don't have Windows 7 & I'm not going to buy a copy so I can prove me point. I'd love to know the answer.

Art wrote:
and you'll find out quickly enough how much doesn't work, just like the 3g stuff isn't working out of the box now. It would take Qualcomm delivering a driver to Ubuntu to match what you get with an OEM Microsoft install.

Doug writes:
Hold on there... aren't I supposed to use the (glad I took notes) qcserial driver (<--which BTW I found "qcserial.c" in a tar.bz2 I downloaded NOT included in UNR 9.10 upgrade). Doesn't that mean we already HAVE the right driver?? Remember Art "Gobi Loader", the web site you told me about http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/gobi_loader. If the driver exists... now what? How come I'm having all this brain damage with UNR 9.10? I'm missing something here. Magic was supposed to happen & it didn't.

Doug wrote:
Also I did all the research about this issue before sans whining... I'm having to do it ALL OVER AGAIN after "updating" (booting XP & loading the firmware then booting into UNR is not working in 9.10 for me now).

Art wrote:
Now *that's* useful info to know, and makes me even slower to upgrade.
Sorry you had to be the one to find out!

Doug writes:
I don't know exactly how, but I got it working again. A LOT of trail & error, I finally got it working. I used the original E-mails of yours Art & kept at it. If you get stuck, I can give you hope you'll get it eventually cause I did, but I'm not sure what I did!

I wrote:
Art, you helped me get this going with a work around. I let it go at that since the next edition of UNR surely would fix this, 3G, being the 3rd generation... this technology has been around some time now. Come to find out there is still no 3G support for my OEM NETBOOK with Ubuntu NETBOOK Remix.

Art wrote:
Give it some time, I'll bet somebody will figure it out.

Doug writes:
Someone already has. You gave me the web site Art. In fact I bet if you pull "qcserial.c" out of a tar.bz2 & UNDERSTAND instructions here: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/gobi_loader (the help I need is understanding) you could get it going on UNR 9.04. Doesn't say you MUST have kernels 2.6.30 and later, the author says kernels 2.6.30 and later INCLUDES qcserial.c except mine did NOT contain qcserial.c which is a question I'd love to have an answer to.
 
Doug wrote:
It's laughable to think Linux is going to actually catch on if this is everyone's position: "You paid nothing". YOU'RE MAKING THE POINT FOR PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE!

Art wrote:
Actually, I think I'm making the point for paid support, not proprietary software. And I believe Ubuntu offers such support now. Maybe you should investigate it.

Doug writes:
I stand corrected. Good point. VERY big difference in paying someone to help you with F.O.S.S. which is actually a GOOD thing.

Art wrote:
When I see people making 3g work with 9.10, and get it working myself, then I'll be glad to share how, if nobody else already has.

Doug writes:
That web site, "Gobi Loader" am I missing something, or is that not the answer? I'm just not able to understand the instructions!

Art wrote:     
Speaking of doing research properly, what did you do before you upgraded to be reasonably comfortable that 3g would work on 9.10.

Doug writes:
Actually if I had read carefully, I'd have been trying the Gobi Loader with the qcserial.c driver pulled out of kernel 2.6.30 & tried to get it to work in 9.04. I read another web page that had some info on another netbook with a similar situation.

Art wrote:
Or did you just shove the CD in and upgrade away, assuming it would work?

Doug writes:
I did an in-place upgrade & thought everything would work out cause you Art YOU SAID this issue was addressed in 9.10. See it's really all your fault! <big grin> Magic was supposed to happen & didn't.

Art wrote:
And I don't want any Linux vs. Microsoft here, because the same thing happened between XP and Vista, and is going on now with W7.

Doug writes:
I "heard" problems with Vista, but never had any myself or ever had to address one for a friend. I don't know about W7 but I'll bet my 3G would work!

Art wrote:
Did you do a live boot with 9.10 and see what would happen? I did, and when I didn't see 3g automatically show up, I decided that was as far as I was going until I knew what it would take to make it work.

Doug writes:
No... I clicked on the upgrade, waited 4 hours & did an in-place upgrade. I figured I'd just go for it & if everything didn't work out, boot into XP & whine & bitch. There I admit it.

Art wrote:
And I'm still asking questions, of anybody with experience willing to take the time to answer. At least the wifi worked off the live boot. That wasn't always the case.

Doug writes:
OHHHHH you would have heard some REAL whinning if I had to plug in. No way.
<div>Doug wrote:<br>
Art, all... is it really a wine(whine) to expect Ubuntu *NETBOOK* Remix to work with my OEM *NETBOOK*? Hardware I'm using is BUILT into this NETBOOK.<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Actually, I'd say Yes. There is such a variety of hardware sourced into different manufacturers equipment, it's impossible to keep up with it all. You think Microsoft does? Ha! If the video or wifi or sound card manufacturers weren't writing the software for Microsoft, half of what's out there wouldn't work. Trying doing a generic XP install instead of an OEM install,<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
&nbsp;...wait a minute now, not fair to use XP as the example... more like doing a generic install with the latest, Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 head to head, which OS would have support for my Acer Aspire One 3G... I'd bet money Windows 7 worked right out of the box. But I don't have Windows 7 &amp; I'm not going to buy a copy so I can prove me point. I'd love to know the answer.<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
and you'll find out quickly enough how much doesn't work, just like the 3g stuff isn't working out of the box now. It would take Qualcomm delivering a driver to Ubuntu to match what you get with an OEM Microsoft install.<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
Hold on there... aren't I supposed to use the (glad I took notes) qcserial driver (&lt;--which BTW I found "qcserial.c" in a tar.bz2 I downloaded NOT included in UNR 9.10 upgrade). Doesn't that mean we already HAVE the right driver?? Remember Art "Gobi Loader", the web site you told me about http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/gobi_loader. If the driver exists... now what? How come I'm having all this brain damage with UNR 9.10? I'm missing something here. Magic was supposed to happen &amp; it didn't.<br><br>
Doug wrote:<br>
Also I did all the research about this issue before sans whining... I'm having to do it ALL OVER AGAIN after "updating" (booting XP &amp; loading the firmware then booting into UNR is not working in 9.10 for me now).<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Now *that's* useful info to know, and makes me even slower to upgrade. <br>
Sorry you had to be the one to find out!<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
I don't know exactly how, but I got it working again. A LOT of trail &amp; error, I finally got it working. I used the original E-mails of yours Art &amp; kept at it. If you get stuck, I can give you hope you'll get it eventually cause I did, but I'm not sure what I did! <br><br>
I wrote:<br>
Art, you helped me get this going with a work around. I let it go at that since the next edition of UNR surely would fix this, 3G, being the 3rd generation... this technology has been around some time now. Come to find out there is still no 3G support for my OEM NETBOOK with Ubuntu NETBOOK Remix.<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Give it some time, I'll bet somebody will figure it out.<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
Someone already has. You gave me the web site Art. In fact I bet if you pull "qcserial.c" out of a tar.bz2 &amp; UNDERSTAND instructions here: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/gobi_loader (the help I need is understanding) you could get it going on UNR 9.04. Doesn't say you MUST have kernels 2.6.30 and later, the author says kernels 2.6.30 and later INCLUDES qcserial.c except mine did NOT contain qcserial.c which is a question I'd love to have an answer to.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Doug wrote:<br>
It's laughable to think Linux is going to actually catch on if this is everyone's position: "You paid nothing". YOU'RE MAKING THE POINT FOR PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE!<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Actually, I think I'm making the point for paid support, not proprietary software. And I believe Ubuntu offers such support now. Maybe you should investigate it. <br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
I stand corrected. Good point. VERY big difference in paying someone to help you with F.O.S.S. which is actually a GOOD thing. <br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
When I see people making 3g work with 9.10, and get it working myself, then I'll be glad to share how, if nobody else already has.<br><br>
Doug writes: <br>
That web site, "Gobi Loader" am I missing something, or is that not the answer? I'm just not able to understand the instructions!<br><br>
Art wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
Speaking of doing research properly, what did you do before you upgraded to be reasonably comfortable that 3g would work on 9.10.<br><br>
Doug writes: <br>
Actually if I had read carefully, I'd have been trying the Gobi Loader with the qcserial.c driver pulled out of kernel 2.6.30 &amp; tried to get it to work in 9.04. I read another web page that had some info on another netbook with a similar situation.<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Or did you just shove the CD in and upgrade away, assuming it would work?<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
I did an in-place upgrade &amp; thought everything would work out cause you Art YOU SAID this issue was addressed in 9.10. See it's really all your fault! &lt;big grin&gt; Magic was supposed to happen &amp; didn't.<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
And I don't want any Linux vs. Microsoft here, because the same thing happened between XP and Vista, and is going on now with W7. <br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
I "heard" problems with Vista, but never had any myself or ever had to address one for a friend. I don't know about W7 but I'll bet my 3G would work!<br><br>
Art wrote:<br>
Did you do a live boot with 9.10 and see what would happen? I did, and when I didn't see 3g automatically show up, I decided that was as far as I was going until I knew what it would take to make it work.<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
No... I clicked on the upgrade, waited 4 hours &amp; did an in-place upgrade. I figured I'd just go for it &amp; if everything didn't work out, boot into XP &amp; whine &amp; bitch. There I admit it.<br><br>
Art wrote: <br>
And I'm still asking questions, of anybody with experience willing to take the time to answer. At least the wifi worked off the live boot. That wasn't always the case.<br><br>
Doug writes:<br>
OHHHHH you would have heard some REAL whinning if I had to plug in. No way.</div>
slowertraffickeepright | 1 Nov 02:23 2009
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9.10 I already miss the spinning icons!

Really though, it feels like when I click on something, nothing happens, so I click again only to open the same window twice. Sometimes everything but the icon goes dark. Sometimes.
<div>Really though, it feels like when I click on something, nothing happens, so I click again only to open the same window twice. Sometimes everything but the icon goes dark. Sometimes.<br>
</div>
William Biggs | 1 Nov 02:37 2009
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blackbery 8320

I have a t-mobile blackberry 8320 I would like to know how I can get the
blackberry to work in 9.10 so I can access the internet I set up a
internet connection for t-mobile for the modem Thank you for all your
help ?

thomas | 1 Nov 03:01 2009
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The unwanted upgrade


I just got upgraded to the new version. Did not realize that the automatic
upgrades was for the new version.

Well, only my e/m and browser work now. I lost my wireless speakers and
was not able to connect to the stations that I was listening to before the
light on the wireless speakers transmitter clicked off.

To the powers that be - please give users a CLEAR option to upgrade before
doing it. This to me seems like a regular upgrade.

Thomas

Fred Roller | 1 Nov 03:03 2009

Re: blackbery 8320

William Biggs wrote:
> I have a t-mobile blackberry 8320 I would like to know how I can get the
> blackberry to work in 9.10 so I can access the internet I set up a
> internet connection for t-mobile for the modem Thank you for all your
> help ?
>
>
>   
google berry4all

works to tether mt 8330

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Leonard Chatagnier | 1 Nov 03:25 2009
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Re: Good Idea for new users

Great, good for you guys.  I appears that Ubuntu has improved the upgrade process making it as good as a fresh
install. Only you don't have ext4 or grub2. Do you know what FUD means?
Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570 <at> sbcglobal.net

--- On Sat, 10/31/09, Robert Kiwanuka <robert.kiwanuka <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Kiwanuka <robert.kiwanuka <at> gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Good Idea for new users
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:29 PM
> 2009/10/30 Gilles
> Gravier <ggravier <at> fsfe.org>
> 
> 
> I just did an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10... and same
> experience. Flawless...
> 
> 
> 
> No point in spreading FUD.
> 
> 
> My Acer Aspire One came with Linpus,  I replaced that with
> Jaunty. I just upgraded that today  to 9.10 via update
> manager and had the same experience, flawless!
> 
> 
> 
> Robert 
> 
> 
> 
> Gilles.
> 
> 
> 
> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> 
> > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1 <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >> From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1 <at> gmail.com>
> 
> >> Subject: Good Idea for new users
> 
> >> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
> general discussions" <ubuntu-users <at> lists.ubuntu.com>
> 
> >> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 8:27 AM
> 
> >>
> 
> >>     I think that the Karmac 9.10 version of
> 
> >> Ubuntu should be
> 
> >> offered with advice to use the ext3 file system
> and the
> 
> >> Grub
> 
> >> version 1 boot.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>     I think this because a huge number of
> 
> >> problems surround the
> 
> >> new versions of both critical items. A new user
> does not
> 
> >> want
> 
> >> to hear this.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> 73 Karl
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> > Why? A fresh install on an ext4 partition has worked
> for be flawlessly on both grub2 and ext4 fs.  Maybe better
> advice is to install on a fresh partition and not just
> upgrade from an older version which has always presented
> issues for me and is why I now always install on a fresh
> partition instead of upgrading.  YMMV.
> 
> 
> 
> > BTW, grub2 did pick up all my other ubuntu partitions
> and my 2 vista partitions so I can't buy the
> recommendation.
> 
> > Leonard Chatagnier
> 
> > lenc5570 <at> sbcglobal.net
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
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