Michael T. Richter | 1 Jun 2006 01:17
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Re: SELinux: What's the Ubuntu trick?

On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 09:02 -0500, Albert wrote:
> The docs... aren't transparent. (And they assume a standard root setup > to boot.) The only Wiki mention of SELinux mentions a project to bring > SELinux into Ubuntu. Is there a set of 5C (Clear, Concise, Courteous, > Correct, Complete) documents explaining how to use SELinux under > Ubuntu? Or am I going to have to switch to CentOS for this project?

Oh no! A threat to kill Ubuntu's profits! Please, someone help this man and save us all from endless regret.

You'd better check your blood pressure medication.

It wasn't a threat.  It was a question.  I know that CentOS has SELinux enabled out of the box, but I'd really prefer not to use it because it's just not my cup of tea.  (It's one of the many distros I tried before hitting Ubuntu and finding for the first time a Linux that stayed on my hard disk.)

Perhaps had I worded this "Or am I going to be forced to switch over to that excremental CentOSfor this project?" you'd not have been such an ass?

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On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 09:02 -0500, Albert wrote:
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&gt; The docs... aren't transparent.  (And they assume a standard root setup 
&gt; to boot.)  The only Wiki mention of SELinux mentions a project to bring 
&gt; SELinux into Ubuntu.  Is there a set of 5C (Clear, Concise, Courteous, 
&gt; Correct, Complete) documents explaining how to use SELinux under 
&gt; Ubuntu?  Or am I going to have to switch to CentOS for this project?

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Oh no!  A threat to kill Ubuntu's profits!  Please, someone help this 
man and save us all from endless regret.

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You'd better check your blood pressure medication.<br><br>
It wasn't a threat.&nbsp; It was a question.&nbsp; I know that CentOS has SELinux enabled out of the box, but I'd really prefer not to use it because it's just not my cup of tea.&nbsp; (It's one of the many distros I tried before hitting Ubuntu and finding for the first time a Linux that stayed on my hard disk.)<br><br>
Perhaps had I worded this "Or am I going to be forced to switch over to that excremental CentOSfor this project?" you'd not have been such an ass?<br><br><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tr>
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Michael T. Richter | 1 Jun 2006 01:19
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Re: SELinux: What's the Ubuntu trick?

On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 10:27 -0400, Jeremy J. Swarm wrote:
I have no idea what the "trick" is, but i feel that this response is inappropriate. Ubuntu is reknowned for its great community, but this response does not reflect that.

Renowned where?  The only people I keep hearing saying what a great community Ubuntu has is ... well, the Ubuntu community.  To me Albert's response appears only slightly below the norm.  And then there's that "Linux Test Pilot" guy who didn't have the greatest things in the world to say about the community either.

But he's just a journalist.

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On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 10:27 -0400, Jeremy J. Swarm wrote:
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I have no idea what the "trick" is, but i feel that this response is
inappropriate. Ubuntu is reknowned for its great community, but this
response does not reflect that.

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Renowned where?&nbsp; The only people I keep hearing saying what a great community Ubuntu has is ... well, the Ubuntu community.&nbsp; To me Albert's response appears only slightly below the norm.&nbsp; And then there's that "Linux Test Pilot" guy who didn't have the greatest things in the world to say about the community either.<br><br>
But he's just a journalist.<br><br><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tr>
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Shelagh Manton | 1 Jun 2006 01:30
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problems with upgrading gnome-sessions [Dapper]

Did a dapper upgrade yesterday and noticed that gnome-session postinstall
routine returned a 1 on exit. Tried to fix problem through synaptic "fix"
but obviously this did not work. Foolishly thought it could be fixed up
eventually, like so many upgrade problems seem to, but today I am working
in KDE (thank goodness I do have another desktop) because I can't get into
gnome. 

This is the message apt-get install gnome-session gave

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/update-gconf-defaults", line 56, in ?
    fd=open(defaults_dir+'/'+f)
IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error:
'/usr/share/gconf/defaults/10_gnome-session' 
dpkg: error processing gnome-session (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gnome-session
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Can I do anything about this? Or should I leave it to the packagers?

Shelagh

grok | 1 Jun 2006 01:33
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FAQ for Debian-Ubuntu differences?


Is there one? Or at least a series of articles, say?

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Richard | 1 Jun 2006 02:11
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Re: upgrading from 5.10 to 6.0.6


> Once the new release is officially out, the Update Manager should offer
> you an option for upgrading to it.
> 
> 
Thanks...

Rich

spira_mirabilis | 1 Jun 2006 02:34

Re: Successful dapper drake install on Dell Inspiron 9400 Core Duo


Here are some sections of xorg.*.log that I thought may be relevant:

Code:
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  (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux

  (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100,

  	i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915),

  	915GM, 945G, 945GM

  (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0

  (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found

  (--) Chipset 945GM found

  
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and 

Code:
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  (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 30-90kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.

  (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 50-75Hz not within DDC vrefresh ranges.

  (II) I810(0): Generic Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-90.00 kHz

  (II) I810(0): Generic Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz

  (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1920x1440" (no mode of this name)

  (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1920x1200" (no mode of this name)

  (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)

  (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)

  (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode "1024x768"

  (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode "800x600"

  (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode "640x480"

  (--) I810(0): Display dimensions: (370, 230) mm

  (--) I810(0): DPI set to (70, 84)

  
--------------------

On a related note to the above, I have previously tried to use the
"Dell 1920x1200 Laptop Panel" in the graphical config, then I can only
get 800x600 resolution.

The kdm.log didn't appear to have any messages relevant to this
problem.

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FXBOY4EVA | 1 Jun 2006 02:24

Re: Compiling/Using Ralink RT61


Late reply but better than never here.

Actually its more than likely the case that The Wireless Card in
question, Like my Cnet CWP-854 (Which is also mentioned in the FSF list
as using the rt2500 chipset) and many other similar cards DID use the
rt2500 chipset, but most sutch cards (regardless of manufacturer) have
seemingly undergone a hardware revision in recent months and now use
the (Later) rt61 chipset, which hasn't been documented because
obviously not everyone is going to run out and buy the same card (or so
it says on the box) they already have 4 months later for hardware
testing.

This may have been due to feature differences in the chipsets , the
rt61 may be cheaper, or perhaps Ralink are simply phasing out the
rt2500, which is the case I cannot determine.

Admittedly I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general but I do know
hardware and how its manufactured, and changes like this are TYPICAL of
most manufacturers of both chips and Cards (as is them not being
bothered to mention it so that Linux users and developers can take it
into account), I also found this out whilst trying to get my card
working under breezy, which was nigh impossible, I now use Dapper which
includes drivers for both. Whether they are a compile of Ralink's own
recent GPL drivers or the latest beta of the Opensource rt2x00 driver
(which has also promised rt61 support) I don't know either.

I'm giving the Kubuntu Dapper Release Candidate a whirl at the moment
and all is great apart from trying to use WPA (Which my home network
uses), can't get a thing from the network manager and I DO have
wpa_supplicant installed, pointers anyone ? I'd really rather not have
to run round the house setting every other machine back to WEP

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wyth | 1 Jun 2006 02:29

Re: Openoffice 2.0 on Ubuntu 6.06?


That fixed worked for me, up to a point.  I've discovered today that I
can't open more than one document at a time.  Currently looking for a
fix for this, and if anyone has one, please let your fingers do the
talking.

I've seen another fix that replaces the libGL.so.1.2, and am trying to
backtrack that down now.  

For me, this is a real showstopper.  I'm a grad student, and need to
have more than one document open at once.  If I can't do that, I need
to head back to my windows partition. :-|

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Tim Jackson | 1 Jun 2006 02:39

Re: dapper-rc X freezes at black screen picked wrong graphics card


golfer wrote:
> I've got a i810 card on my motherboard at pci:0:1:0, which is bypassed
> in the BIOS, and a pci nvidia card on pci:1:9:0, which is activated by
> the BIOS.
> 
> dapper-rc install cd used the correct nvidia for the installation,
> but, when it first booted, it froze when X started.  I rebooted in
> recovery mode and had to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the other card.
> It incorrectly showed:
> 
> Section "Device"
>        Identifier      "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset
> Graphics Controller]"
>        Driver          "i810"
>        BusID           "PCI:0:1:0"
> EndSection
> 
> I changed it to:
> 
> Section "Device"
>        Identifier      "Nvidia GeForce4 MX4000"
>        Driver          "nv"
>        BusID           "PCI:1:9:0"
> EndSection
> ..
> Section "Screen"
>        Identifier      "Default Screen"
> #       Device          "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset
> Graphics Controller]"
>        Device          "Nvidia GeForce4 MX4000"
> ..
> 
> and rebooted successfully into kubuntu.  I wonder why the installer
> correctly picked the nvidia card, but the X configure script picked
> the wrong one?
> 
> HTH someone else.
> 
> regards,
> 

there are some problems with the i810 and xresprobe during the install.
this is bug reported at  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43722 and others,
I had a similar experience with adding a card and having it configure
xorg.conf as i810 even though it using the card during the install.  If
the issue is xresprobe there is no fix yet as far as I know.

Tim

Peter Garrett | 1 Jun 2006 02:44
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Re: SELinux: What's the Ubuntu trick?

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:19:56 +0800
"Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter <at> gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, 2006-31-05 at 10:27 -0400, Jeremy J. Swarm wrote:
> 
> > I have no idea what the "trick" is, but i feel that this response is
> > inappropriate. Ubuntu is reknowned for its great community, but this
> > response does not reflect that.
> 
> 
> Renowned where?  The only people I keep hearing saying what a great
> community Ubuntu has is ... well, the Ubuntu community.  To me Albert's
> response appears only slightly below the norm.  And then there's that
> "Linux Test Pilot" guy who didn't have the greatest things in the world
> to say about the community either.
> 
> But he's just a journalist.

What is a genuine "community" ? Examples might be for instance a
monastery, or perhaps a small tight-knit village. What are the
characterisitics of such communities ? Are they invariably friendly and
well-behaved ? Do they sail along without conflicts, full of constantly
happy smiling people with soft-focus Hollywood Happy sentiments, and
violins playing on the sound track? I think not, from personal experience. 

Expecting any group to be unfailingly welcoming, friendly and helpful is
really a sure path to disappointment. Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings",
yes - but human beings rarely live up fully to the ideal of "ubuntu" in the
original sense of the word.

That doesn't mean the ideal is a bad one - just that we are fallible, and
human in a different and less positive meaning of that word.

I *do* think we need to stop trumpeting how wonderful we are though -
that's a very unlikable characterisitic, in anyone... and "ipso facto",
negates the claim.

Peter

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