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Lachele Foley (Lists | 2 Sep 2011 21:38
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Various display issues after Lucid -> Natty upgrade

I have a pretty heterogeneous environment.  After upgrading from Lucid
to Natty (required for one of the clients), I see a number of display
issues.  If these are covered in the Natty release notes, I don't know
enough to be able to tell it.  It might be worth saying that I only
upgraded to Natty because Lucid doesn't have a driver capable of fully
booting the z210's on-board NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really
downgrade.

Could this be due to upgrading rather than doing a fresh install?
Could I have done one of those special "only true users can manage
this" things?  I can give more machine details if that will help.
These are all in "Classic" mode.  The server is AMD Opteron 8384
(amd64).

Key to behaviors indicated below:

** No Boot:  Doesn't make it to login screen

** Elements Vertical Mirror:  Machine boots, shows login correctly,
logs user in, starts X, the X display is arranged properly, but
individual text and image elements are mirrored vertically.

** No User X:  Machine boots, shows the login screen, tries to log the
user in, but can't start X and returns the user to the login prompt.

** Die on Xterm:  Boots, logs in, X starts right, but try to run
"xterm" from within a gnome-terminal and the screen freezes and you
get booted back to the login screen.  Generally, the client must be
restarted to get proper X behavior on subsequent logins.  We aren't
really so concerned with being able to start an xterm: some of our
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Alkis Georgopoulos | 2 Sep 2011 22:08
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Re: Various display issues after Lucid -> Natty upgrade

Στις 02-09-2011, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 15:38 -0400, ο/η Lachele Foley
(Lists) έγραψε:
> It might be worth saying that I only upgraded to Natty because Lucid
> doesn't have a driver capable of fully booting the z210's on-board
> NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really downgrade. 

I haven't read the rest of your mail, but I'm guessing that installing
the linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty package, available in the
lucid repositories, would solve your problem without needing to upgrade.

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Lachele Foley (Lists | 2 Sep 2011 23:28
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Re: Various display issues after Lucid -> Natty upgrade

I'll give that a try.  I can't mess with the server a lot because of
the users.  But, I think I can manage to try this.

In the end, though, these issues probably need to be addressed (unless
they're due to some magic stupidity on my part... :-).

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alkis Georgopoulos <alkisg <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Στις 02-09-2011, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 15:38 -0400, ο/η Lachele Foley
> (Lists) έγραψε:
>> It might be worth saying that I only upgraded to Natty because Lucid
>> doesn't have a driver capable of fully booting the z210's on-board
>> NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really downgrade.
>
> I haven't read the rest of your mail, but I'm guessing that installing
> the linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty package, available in the
> lucid repositories, would solve your problem without needing to upgrade.
>
>
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Jordan Erickson | 3 Sep 2011 00:12

Re: Various display issues after Lucid -> Natty upgrade

I know this is a really basic question, and based on your detailed
response I'm sure you covered this.. but you *did* start fresh with a
new chroot after you upgraded, no?

- Jordan

On 09/02/2011 12:38 PM, Lachele Foley (Lists) wrote:
> I have a pretty heterogeneous environment.  After upgrading from Lucid
> to Natty (required for one of the clients), I see a number of display
> issues.  If these are covered in the Natty release notes, I don't know
> enough to be able to tell it.  It might be worth saying that I only
> upgraded to Natty because Lucid doesn't have a driver capable of fully
> booting the z210's on-board NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really
> downgrade.
> 
> Could this be due to upgrading rather than doing a fresh install?
> Could I have done one of those special "only true users can manage
> this" things?  I can give more machine details if that will help.
> These are all in "Classic" mode.  The server is AMD Opteron 8384
> (amd64).
> 
> Key to behaviors indicated below:
> 
> ** No Boot:  Doesn't make it to login screen
> 
> ** Elements Vertical Mirror:  Machine boots, shows login correctly,
> logs user in, starts X, the X display is arranged properly, but
> individual text and image elements are mirrored vertically.
> 
> ** No User X:  Machine boots, shows the login screen, tries to log the
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Lachele Foley (Lists | 3 Sep 2011 02:11
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Re: Various display issues after Lucid -> Natty upgrade

I think you mean to ask if I built a new image after upgrade?  Oh yes,
I did.  But it is very lucky that I did not get rid of the old images
(pre-upgrade) because in certain cases, those are the only ones that
work.  The brand new, new chroot, etc., images give trouble.

In fact, that is the issue:  The fresh chroot images behave worse than
the old ones I saved.  I'm confused by this.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jordan Erickson
<jerickson@...> wrote:
> I know this is a really basic question, and based on your detailed
> response I'm sure you covered this.. but you *did* start fresh with a
> new chroot after you upgraded, no?
>
>
> - Jordan
>
>
> On 09/02/2011 12:38 PM, Lachele Foley (Lists) wrote:
>> I have a pretty heterogeneous environment.  After upgrading from Lucid
>> to Natty (required for one of the clients), I see a number of display
>> issues.  If these are covered in the Natty release notes, I don't know
>> enough to be able to tell it.  It might be worth saying that I only
>> upgraded to Natty because Lucid doesn't have a driver capable of fully
>> booting the z210's on-board NIC.  But, because of that, I can't really
>> downgrade.
>>
>> Could this be due to upgrading rather than doing a fresh install?
>> Could I have done one of those special "only true users can manage
>> this" things?  I can give more machine details if that will help.
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Dr. Rüdiger Kupper (Kepler-Gymnasium Freudenstadt | 6 Sep 2011 03:23
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How to set default session for ldm?

Hello,

I cannot find any way of specifying the default session that ldm will
start upon login: Users **always** get a unity session, unless they
chose different from the menu **every single time they log in**.
Neither is their choice remembered next time, nor does any of the
options work that a have found via google:

- User's ~/.ldm **is not honored** (see Launchpad bug #842254)
- Setting "LDM_SESSION" in lts.conf (as suggested in bug #770323) **is
not honored**
- Setting "LDM_GLOBAL_DMRC=/etc/ltsp/ldm-global-dmrc" in lts.conf and
creating this file (as suggested here:
http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/arcana-of-etc-ltsp-ldm-global-dmrc)
**is not honored**

I have filed a bug on Launchpad (#842261), but perhaps there is some
secret way of doing it that I have not discovered?

Thank you, help is much appreciated,
Regards,
Rüdiger

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Rainer | 6 Sep 2011 09:02
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Re: How to set default session for ldm?

Hello Rüdiger,

on ubuntu-10.04 with ltsp-xxx-5.x it works fine for me.
You need to setup on ltsp-server "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf" 
with something like:

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[default]
  LDM_SESSION="/usr/bin/startkde"

[00:19:66:cf:0d:11]
  LDM_SESSION=""

[00:23:8b:ed:51:12]
  LDM_SESSION="/usr/bin/gnome-session"
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best regards,
rainer

Am 06.09.2011 03:23, schrieb Dr. Rüdiger Kupper (Kepler-Gymnasium 
Freudenstadt):
> Hello,
>
> I cannot find any way of specifying the default session that ldm will
> start upon login: Users **always** get a unity session, unless they
> chose different from the menu **every single time they log in**.
> Neither is their choice remembered next time, nor does any of the
> options work that a have found via google:
>
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Rolf-Werner Eilert | 6 Sep 2011 10:45
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Re: Why LDM?

Am 29.08.2011 23:16, schrieb Scott Balneaves:
> On 11-08-29 10:11 AM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> This may seem a bit foolish question, but I dare asking it anyway:
>>
>> Why do you use LDM? Does it have any influence on the functionality of
>> LTSP? Wouldn't it be ok to use KDM or whatever to let the folks log in?
>>
>> I ask because on our current system we use KDM with a special template
>> and it's ok (LTSP 4.2). Now, when I played around on the newly setup
>> system with LTSP 5 and 4.2, I didn't find any faults that might have to
>> do with KDM instead of LDM (well, there still are some errors, but
>> nothing I would think has to do with it).
>>
>> But I guess you had a good reason to code it :-)
>
> In a word, exigency.  However, a better explanation might be required.
>
> LTSP 4.2 used XDM to set up the X channel.  XDM's unencrypted.  One of the
> problems that was keeping LTSP out of certain markets was the lack of
> encryption.  We needed to tunnel X over ssh to attain this.
>
> However, ssh doesn't "script" well.  In order to interact with it, we needed to
> do (computer oldsters will recognize this term) "screen scraping" to handle the
> interaction with ssh.  This needed some fancy footwork that wouldn't work with
> other display managers.  It's been a constant source of annoyance for me,
> personally.
>
> With the development of libssh, we now had a tool that we could use to
> programmatically control an ssh session.  As a result, I've written
> libpam-sshauth, which you can find here:
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Dr. Rüdiger Kupper (Kepler-Gymnasium Freudenstadt | 6 Sep 2011 11:34
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Re: How to set default session for ldm?

Hello ainer,

thank you for your answer. I need to be more specific:
My problem is about selecting the Gnome session (profile) for
/usr/bin/gnome-session:

I put the following in lts.conf:
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[default]
LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=classic-gnome"
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and expect the user to get a classic gnome session (not unity) by
default. But the "--session" parameter is not honored, users always
get a unity Gnome session by default.

This is on natty.

Thanks again for help,
regards,
Rüdger

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Rainer <ra <at> tux-edv.de> wrote:
> Hello Rüdiger,
>
> on ubuntu-10.04 with ltsp-xxx-5.x it works fine for me.
> You need to setup on ltsp-server "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf"
> with something like:
>
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Alkis Georgopoulos | 6 Sep 2011 11:45
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Re: How to set default session for ldm?

Στις 06-09-2011, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 11:34 +0200, ο/η Dr. Rüdiger Kupper
(Kepler-Gymnasium Freudenstadt) έγραψε:
> 
> LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=classic-gnome" 

You missed an "X":
LDM_XSESSION="gnome-session --session=classic-gnome"

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