jam | 1 Oct 01:32 2004

Ltsp Video

Hi

can anybody point me in the right direction, I'm using VIA mini-itx clients:

1) If I install redhat 9 on a client box mplayer works fine

2) If I X -query ltsp-server from that box, login, mplayer works fine

3) LTSP thin clients do NOT work. They give a striped magenta display,
   unless one uses x11 codecs, then they work (but x11, not accelerated xv)

4) LTSP clients say the right stuff about xv:

X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
  Adaptor #0: "Trident Backend Scaler"
    number of ports: 1
    port base: 53
    operations supported: PutImage 
    supported visuals:
      depth 16, visualID 0x21
    number of attributes: 5
      "XV_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 16777215)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 2110)
      "XV_SATURATION" (range 0 to 187)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 80)
      "XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range 0 to 63)
              client settable attribute
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Krsnendu | 1 Oct 22:33 2004
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Crossover office

I am considering my options of Crossover office vs Win Server 2003 for our school. We can get licences for Win Server 2003 quite cheap, but it would be easier to manage if we only had one server to maintain.

It also comes down to costs. The educational pricing for Crossover office is $52 where as the server version is $1500 for 25 licences.

           

If I install Crossover office professional on my K12LTSP server, will all the clients be able to concurrently access it? Or would I have to get the server version?

 

If we can use Crossover office Professional that would be the preferred soln, if we had to pay for the server version for concurrent access then WS2003 would obviously be a better solution.

We can get it for about (annual) $65 server licence, $6.50 each terminal licence. We get Office XP for free.

 

Any advice?

 

 

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Re: Crossover office

Hi,

As much as I hate to say this but your better option, performance, speed, compatibility and price is with Server 2003. The benchmarks we ran with 2003 were much better than with any other option. BUT you'll need a hefty server and lots of patience configuring the 2003 server SW so that it can be used. (Seems than M$ in an attempt to block hacks, virius & attacks locked the server down soooooo tight that it barely works :-D )

good luck
norbert

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I am considering my options of Crossover office vs Win Server 2003 for our school. We can get licences for Win Server 2003 quite cheap, but it would be easier to manage if we only had one server to maintain.

It also comes down to costs. The educational pricing for Crossover office is $52 where as the server version is $1500 for 25 licences.

           

If I install Crossover office professional on my K12LTSP server, will all the clients be able to concurrently access it? Or would I have to get the server version?

 

If we can use Crossover office Professional that would be the preferred soln, if we had to pay for the server version for concurrent access then WS2003 would obviously be a better solution.

We can get it for about (annual) $65 server licence, $6.50 each terminal licence. We get Office XP for free.

 

Any advice?

 

 

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Eric Holt | 1 Oct 05:54 2004

LTSP and HP t5300 Thin Clients / Scroll Mouse

Hello List.  I'm new here, just joined today.  LTSP is great, its a 
great project.  We're building an awesome system with it...so thanks!

My first problem is, I can NOT get the scroll wheel working on the Mice 
that came with the HP t5300 thin clients that I purchased from 
DisklessWorkstation.  Is anyone else running these, and has gotten them 
working properly?  I'd appreciate any help you can provide.

My setup:  LTSP v4.1, Slackware 10, HP t5300 Thin Client with the 
provided HP two-button mouse+scrollwheel.

Thanks in Advance!
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Jim McQuillan | 1 Oct 06:01 2004

Re: LTSP and HP t5300 Thin Clients / Scroll Mouse


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:

> Hello List.  I'm new here, just joined today.  LTSP is great, its a great
> project.  We're building an awesome system with it...so thanks!
>

Thanks.  We've worked hard to build LTSP and it's always nice to
see people enjoying it.

> My first problem is, I can NOT get the scroll wheel working on the Mice that
> came with the HP t5300 thin clients that I purchased from DisklessWorkstation.
> Is anyone else running these, and has gotten them working properly?  I'd
> appreciate any help you can provide.
>
> My setup:  LTSP v4.1, Slackware 10, HP t5300 Thin Client with the provided HP
> two-button mouse+scrollwheel.

Show us what settings you have in lts.conf.

In our testing of the T5300, we used:

   X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"

I'm currently using an HP T-5500 as my desktop but i'm using a Logitech
wireless optical mouse, and even that works well with "IMPS/2" for
the scroll wheel.

BTW:  These terminals work great, even at resolutions of 1800x1440

Thanks,
Jim McQuillan
jam@...
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Eric Holt | 1 Oct 06:20 2004

Re: LTSP and HP t5300 Thin Clients / Scroll Mouse

Jim:  Thanks for the prompt response!  Wow!  Awesome :)

You have done a good job building the LTSP.  It fits our application 
just amazingly well, and has saved us SO MUCH money compared to the 
similar Windows Server solution.  So, many thanks, once again.

I just tried your setting change of "IMPS/2" in my lts.conf, and no 
change.  Here are my mouse-related lts.conf settings:

	X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"   # also have tried "Intellimouse"
	X_MOUSE_DEVICE   = "/dev/psaux"
	X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400
	X_MOUSE_BUTTONS	= 3
	USE_XFS = N  # not sure if this is mouse-related or not?

The RESOLUTION and BUTTONS options I've commented out and have kept on, 
and still no go, either way I do it.

My Window Manager is IceWM, if that makes any difference -- and our 
full-screen application that runs on the server is a web-based 
application which is running in Firefox v0.9.3.

Btw, Jim:  We've bought 20 of the HP t5300's from DisklessWorkstation so 
far, and have intentions of buying 10 more to bring us up to 30. :)

Thanks,
      Eric

Jim McQuillan wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello List.  I'm new here, just joined today.  LTSP is great, its a great
>>project.  We're building an awesome system with it...so thanks!
>>
> 
> 
> Thanks.  We've worked hard to build LTSP and it's always nice to
> see people enjoying it.
> 
> 
> 
>>My first problem is, I can NOT get the scroll wheel working on the Mice that
>>came with the HP t5300 thin clients that I purchased from DisklessWorkstation.
>>Is anyone else running these, and has gotten them working properly?  I'd
>>appreciate any help you can provide.
>>
>>My setup:  LTSP v4.1, Slackware 10, HP t5300 Thin Client with the provided HP
>>two-button mouse+scrollwheel.
> 
> 
> Show us what settings you have in lts.conf.
> 
> In our testing of the T5300, we used:
> 
>    X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"
> 
> 
> I'm currently using an HP T-5500 as my desktop but i'm using a Logitech
> wireless optical mouse, and even that works well with "IMPS/2" for
> the scroll wheel.
> 
> BTW:  These terminals work great, even at resolutions of 1800x1440
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim McQuillan
> jam@...
> jam@...

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Jim McQuillan | 1 Oct 06:31 2004

Re: LTSP and HP t5300 Thin Clients / Scroll Mouse

Eric,

your X_MOUSE_DEVICE isn't correct.  it's not a /dev/psaux port,
it should be "/dev/input/mice"

Try that, and see if it works.

ALSO, make sure that if you are specifying this stuff in a specific
workstation section, like '[ws001]', make sure the client knows it's own
hostname.

Try setting  'SCREEN_01 = shell', and reboot.  see if you get a bash
prompt.  and, if you do, type 'hostname' and see if it shows you a
hostname.

if it doesn't, then you can also use either the IP address or the MAC
address in the square brackets.  ie:

 [192.168.0.1]
     X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"

Jim.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:

> Jim:  Thanks for the prompt response!  Wow!  Awesome :)
>
> You have done a good job building the LTSP.  It fits our application just
> amazingly well, and has saved us SO MUCH money compared to the similar Windows
> Server solution.  So, many thanks, once again.
>
> I just tried your setting change of "IMPS/2" in my lts.conf, and no change.
> Here are my mouse-related lts.conf settings:
>
> 	X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"   # also have tried "Intellimouse"
> 	X_MOUSE_DEVICE   = "/dev/psaux"
> 	X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400
> 	X_MOUSE_BUTTONS	= 3
> 	USE_XFS = N  # not sure if this is mouse-related or not?
>
> The RESOLUTION and BUTTONS options I've commented out and have kept on, and
> still no go, either way I do it.
>
> My Window Manager is IceWM, if that makes any difference -- and our
> full-screen application that runs on the server is a web-based application
> which is running in Firefox v0.9.3.
>
> Btw, Jim:  We've bought 20 of the HP t5300's from DisklessWorkstation so far,
> and have intentions of buying 10 more to bring us up to 30. :)
>
>
> Thanks,
>      Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim McQuillan wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Hello List.  I'm new here, just joined today.  LTSP is great, its a great
> > > project.  We're building an awesome system with it...so thanks!
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.  We've worked hard to build LTSP and it's always nice to
> > see people enjoying it.
> >
> >
> >
> > > My first problem is, I can NOT get the scroll wheel working on the Mice
> > > that
> > > came with the HP t5300 thin clients that I purchased from
> > > DisklessWorkstation.
> > > Is anyone else running these, and has gotten them working properly?  I'd
> > > appreciate any help you can provide.
> > >
> > > My setup:  LTSP v4.1, Slackware 10, HP t5300 Thin Client with the provided
> > > HP
> > > two-button mouse+scrollwheel.
> >
> >
> > Show us what settings you have in lts.conf.
> >
> > In our testing of the T5300, we used:
> >
> >    X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"
> >
> >
> > I'm currently using an HP T-5500 as my desktop but i'm using a Logitech
> > wireless optical mouse, and even that works well with "IMPS/2" for
> > the scroll wheel.
> >
> > BTW:  These terminals work great, even at resolutions of 1800x1440
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim McQuillan
> > jam@...
> > jam@...
>
>
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Eric Holt | 1 Oct 06:52 2004

Re: LTSP and HP t5300 Thin Clients / Scroll Mouse

Jim:  PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!   That did it.  /dev/psaux let the mouse work,
which was weird -- I would have figured if that part was wrong the mouse
would either work or not work at all.

But that did it!  Thanks SOOOO MUCH.

I can mark that off my "TO DO" list.  I'm sure I'll be posting another
message soon, there are other items I've yet to figure out to get
working properly -- mostly little things here and there.

But thanks again.  I look forward to next time. :)

--Eric

Jim McQuillan wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> your X_MOUSE_DEVICE isn't correct.  it's not a /dev/psaux port,
> it should be "/dev/input/mice"
> 
> Try that, and see if it works.
> 
> ALSO, make sure that if you are specifying this stuff in a specific
> workstation section, like '[ws001]', make sure the client knows it's own
> hostname.
> 
> Try setting  'SCREEN_01 = shell', and reboot.  see if you get a bash
> prompt.  and, if you do, type 'hostname' and see if it shows you a
> hostname.
> 
> if it doesn't, then you can also use either the IP address or the MAC
> address in the square brackets.  ie:
> 
>  [192.168.0.1]
>      X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"
> 
> Jim.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:
> 
> 
>>Jim:  Thanks for the prompt response!  Wow!  Awesome :)
>>
>>You have done a good job building the LTSP.  It fits our application just
>>amazingly well, and has saved us SO MUCH money compared to the similar Windows
>>Server solution.  So, many thanks, once again.
>>
>>I just tried your setting change of "IMPS/2" in my lts.conf, and no change.
>>Here are my mouse-related lts.conf settings:
>>
>>	X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"   # also have tried "Intellimouse"
>>	X_MOUSE_DEVICE   = "/dev/psaux"
>>	X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400
>>	X_MOUSE_BUTTONS	= 3
>>	USE_XFS = N  # not sure if this is mouse-related or not?
>>
>>The RESOLUTION and BUTTONS options I've commented out and have kept on, and
>>still no go, either way I do it.
>>
>>My Window Manager is IceWM, if that makes any difference -- and our
>>full-screen application that runs on the server is a web-based application
>>which is running in Firefox v0.9.3.
>>
>>Btw, Jim:  We've bought 20 of the HP t5300's from DisklessWorkstation so far,
>>and have intentions of buying 10 more to bring us up to 30. :)
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>     Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jim McQuillan wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Eric Holt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello List.  I'm new here, just joined today.  LTSP is great, its a great
>>>>project.  We're building an awesome system with it...so thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks.  We've worked hard to build LTSP and it's always nice to
>>>see people enjoying it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My first problem is, I can NOT get the scroll wheel working on the Mice
>>>>that
>>>>came with the HP t5300 thin clients that I purchased from
>>>>DisklessWorkstation.
>>>>Is anyone else running these, and has gotten them working properly?  I'd
>>>>appreciate any help you can provide.
>>>>
>>>>My setup:  LTSP v4.1, Slackware 10, HP t5300 Thin Client with the provided
>>>>HP
>>>>two-button mouse+scrollwheel.
>>>
>>>
>>>Show us what settings you have in lts.conf.
>>>
>>>In our testing of the T5300, we used:
>>>
>>>   X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "IMPS/2"
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm currently using an HP T-5500 as my desktop but i'm using a Logitech
>>>wireless optical mouse, and even that works well with "IMPS/2" for
>>>the scroll wheel.
>>>
>>>BTW:  These terminals work great, even at resolutions of 1800x1440
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jim McQuillan
>>>jam@...
>>>jam@...
>>
>>
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Eric Holt | 1 Oct 07:08 2004

Running Firefox as a Local Application on Thin Client?

Alright folks, I threatened to write with a second question, and here it 
is. :)  My first problem got answered so quickly, I just had to. :)

Like I mentioned before, we're using our thin clients to run a custom 
web-based (php/MySQL) application.  Right now, our LTSP application 
server and our application are being ran from the same server.  In the 
future, I'd like to split them, but we're on a budget, and we've already 
spent a good chunk of money so far.  SO, for right now, to save on some 
processing power, I'd like to run Firefox on each of the thin clients, 
instead of 15 or 20 copies of Firefox running on the server.

Does anyone have a tutorial or some helpful hints on how to get Firefox 
running as a local application?  I've been trying, but I'm running into 
some problem, and I'm not sure what it is.  I think my problem is that 
SSH isnt able to do password-less login to the thinclient, but I dont 
know how to test if I've set the public/private keys up properly.

My setup:  LTSP-4.1, Slackware 10, Firefox v0.9.3.

Thanks in advance, I certainly appreciate it.

--Eric Holt

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PXES

Hi
Has anyone tried PXES 
(http://pxes.sourceforge.net), and how does it 
compare to LTSP? As far as I can see it fulfils 
a very similar purpose, so I'm wondering what 
advantages and disadvantages it has compared to 
LTSP. 

 
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