Amos Shapira | 1 Apr 01:17 2007
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Re: Rsync and databases

On 01/04/07, Lior Kaplan <webmaster@...> wrote:
> They prefer every to use the same script as it might simplify things for
> everyone, like making sure mirror use the same option and don't create
> non exact mirrors. Such an example might be a mirror with different time
> stamp on the files.

That sounds like a reasonable explanation.

>
> wget and ftp tools will just cause more traffic for both servers, as
> they usually can only append to files which were changed, things usually
> requires re-downloading the whole file. So they recommend rsync.

But these files (linux distribution) are not expected to change once
published  - if there is a new version then it's a new file anyway, so
the rsync algorithm wouldn't kick in to transfer just the parts that
changed.

>
> I can say I use rsync for all the mirrors on mirror.{hamakor, isoc,
> iglu}.org.il.

That by itself doesn't prove rsync's advantage. Can you provide some
traffic numbers showing that it benefits
speed/bytes-transferred/cpu-utilization or somesuch?

Right now I expect rsync is practically used as a smart mirror (in the
sense of copying files and keeping their timestamps) since the file
diff algorithm wouldn't come into play.

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Chaim Keren Tzion | 1 Apr 01:40 2007
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Re: [ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on "The Smallest RSA Key" on 01-April-2007

On Saturday 31 March 2007 18:17, Aviram Jenik wrote:
>
> I should mention that Canabis is non Kosher, so all you
> potheads out there beware of the Kosher-police ;-)

As I am sure this is on-topic for may readers of this list (sic.):

I am the Kosher Police and Canabis is definitely Kosher! Not wise, but Kosher. 
Pesach however throws in a twist, as it is considered by some to be Kitniyot 
so those that don't eat Kitniyot (most Ashkanazim and Morocans (go figure)) 
can't have any. That only leaves more for the Sefaradim and Eidot Mizrach. 

PS. This may be an Ashkanazic plot to subjigate the Sefardim, call the Black 
Panthers!

For the full story:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879182017&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Let me take this opportunity to with everyone a very high (spiritually) and 
holy Pesach!

Chaim

>
> - Aviram

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Julian Daich | 1 Apr 08:28 2007
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Re: [ OT] Re: Telux: Shachar Shemesh on "The Smallest RSA Key" on 01-April-2007

It took to the bellow message more than 16 hours to reach the list!
Is it a server´s April 1st joke or maybe the server become stoned from
the discussion on alcohol, drugs and sugars?

Julian 

El sáb, 31-03-2007 a las 13:44 +0300, Julian Daich escribió:
> El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 19:11 +0200, Shlomi Fish escribi³:
> 
> > > By the way, I want to recall that it will the last opportunity to drink
> > > beer before Passover. So, those attendees who are interested can think
> > > about a place after the meeting. A possibility can be¨ Rosh Pina¨ it is
> > > at Bordetsky 5 min. walking from TAU, they have food, a happy hour, also
> > > is cheaper than the campus´ coffee shop and you not have to wait for big
> > > tables.
> > >
> > 
> > I don't know about you, but I don't need beer (or any other alcohol or 
> > caffeine or sugar or cigarettes or whatever) to feel good. 
> 
> I don´t believe you about sugars.
> 
> > Beer would be nice 
> > for people who can enjoy it, but I'm not going to a smoke-filled pub instead 
> > of a nice outdoor caf™, like the TAU "Coffee to Go" which I really like. If 
> > you want to hit a pub later - be my guest. If not - can you consider wine 
> > instead?
> 
> Considering the desires of some people last meeting, the intentions are
> to go to a quiet, cheaper, not smoke-filled, with better beers and no
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson | 1 Apr 08:37 2007

Re: tv capture card recommendations anyone?

On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:42:35AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> BTW - I also have an older Flyvideo on a third machine, but I don't think it's 
> available any more.

The Flyvideo cards use the Philips chipset I mentioned. Due to a major
change in the kernel structure, there may be problems using them
with out ALSA.

For example, I found that MythTV and VLC no longer work with them.

Geoff.
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Ira Abramov | 1 Apr 09:24 2007

Re: Video capture of screen

Quoting Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar, from the post of Sat, 31 Mar:
> recordmydesktop - Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session
> 
> 
> you might also want to try "istanbul", I tried it a few months ago and
> it works pretty well.
> 

also I think I saw a movie recorder like what you seek built into beryl
as one of its many plugins.

my new bombastic PC is getting here today and I'll be able to install
beryl at home at last, I'll test that too :-)

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Dvir Volk | 1 Apr 09:38 2007
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Re: tv capture card recommendations anyone?


On 4/1/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm-I8pGow6HJUGaMJb+Lgu22Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
For example, I found that MythTV and VLC no longer work with them.

Since I'm writing my own little piece of software to work with the card, alsa support will be in it then :) 


Dan Kenigsberg | 1 Apr 10:43 2007
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April 1st: SendSMS works with the new Orange site

Hi,

You probably have noticed that Nadav's SendSMS stopped working with Orange's
site (and with ICQ's site much before that).

Since I suspect that Nadav would be offline for a few days, and since it's such
a lovely date today, I would like to release a new version of SendSMS that works
with the new Orange site:

        http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~danken/sendsms

I am a lot less thorough than Nadav, so please consider this as a beta version.
Patches are welcome. The above link will die when Nadav updates the main trunk.

The script is released under the GPL, of course.

Enjoy,

Dan.

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Nathan Fain | 1 Apr 12:05 2007
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Re: two internet lines, two ssh tunnels, separate route tables

I think i understood your setup.  first, ill clarify my setup for both
myself and others:

(ascii meant for mono-spaced font)
     [client1]
        |
        |
     [adsl1]-----|eth0|default
                 |    |
                 |linx|
                 | pc |
                 |    |
     [adsl2]-----|eth1|
        |
        |
     [client2]

The connection that [clients*] use to connect to the [linxpc] is "ssh
-D <port>" which creates a socks proxy on the [client*].   If the
default route of [linxpc] is [adsl1] then packets from [client2] will
get routed out through [adsl1] instead of [adsl2].

The objective with ssh -D on the clients is to give them full liberty
to determine where the connection ends.  So to answer your question,
the tunnel is dynamic and the client decides where it ends up. Hence,
setting up static routes for everything [client2] wants to use on the
internet to be certain it goes through [adsl2] isnt practical in this
setup.

atm, it appears my only solution to convince SSHD not to use eth0 for
tunnels set through eth1 is to run it in a separate virtual machine on
the host, which has its own different default route.  But i want to
find a more elegant solution if one exists.  Even considering swapping
out the ADSL routers for thin clients (wrt54g's with a full sshd
running on them) so that I can setup the tunnel directly through the
adsl router, which will have its own default.  but geeze!

Lastly, hey!  hope you are well.

thanks

On 3/28/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:04:08AM +0200, Nathan Fain wrote:
> > When sshd deals with port forwarding and tunneling it seems to re
> > encapsulate the outgoing packets and use the default route for
> > determining which interface or internet line to send it out on.  I
> > have two internet lines and I want to change this behavior so that
> > sshd will forward the tunnel back out through the same internet line
> > the tunnel was setup on.
>
> The question that I have is where do the tunnels end up?
>
> For example, I have the usual PPTP tunnel to netvision. I have a specific
> route to the IP address of their tunneling host and a default route
> via the tunnel.
>
> If I wanted to add a second tunnel to anywhere else, then all I need
> to do is to set up a specific route to that host.
>
> If I want to communicate with that host for other things than the
> tunnel, I would run into a problem. Or not depending upon what gets
> routed over the direct interface.
>
> The situation becomes problematic when I want to have two tunnels on
> the same host. Then there is no easy way to route packets on one interface
> and not the other.
>
> If you are connecting to an ISP, you can arrange for one tunnel to be
> hosted on one IP and the other on a different one. It may already
> be that way, and you don't know it. For example, Netvision has
> several pptp tunnel hosts. I use the one I was assigned to. I know
> other users who were assigned to different ones.
>
> I don't know what would happen if I switched. They may not let me
> connect, they may get upset and complain, or they may not even pay
> attention.
>
> Geoff.
>
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Nathan Fain | 1 Apr 12:14 2007
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Re: two internet lines, two ssh tunnels, separate route tables

On 3/28/07, Ilya Konstantinov <linux-il@...> wrote:
> Mind that forwarding through the same interface as the SSH connection came
> from is not the obvious thing to do. Often you want SSH forwarding precisely
> for the reason that a certain destination is available to the SSH server
> through an interface which you don't have.
>
> One easy way to implement the thing you want would be to patch sshd. You
> might not want to touch code, but face it - what you're trying to do isn't
> trivial with iptables/iproute2, and might not end up reliable.

true, might consider this.

> This sprung to my mind as well. You actually want to deal only with a single
> sshd child process, not the entire sshd, so --pid-owner  sounds about right.
> This would be something you'd executed through PAM "session" module, as to
> still have root permissions (and keep it out of the user's control).

thanks.  Might try this also.

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Yair Friedman | 1 Apr 11:16 2007
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Re: How to read inbox converted by mistake into RMAIL format?

Gnus (which I use now) can read BABYL as well as other formats and its
as good as handling attachment as other mail readers.

As for the original questions, it is answered in the emacs FAQ here:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-faq.html#Recovering-mail-files-when-Rmail-munges-them

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:34:41 +1000, 
"Amos Shapira" <amos.shapira@...> writes:

> On 31/03/07, Andre Bar'yudin <andre@...> wrote:
>> Touché :-)
>>
>> Hell knows how you display attachments in Emacs.  I used Gnus years ago,
>> but can't recall whether it used RMail format or something more advanced..
>
> As far as I remember, only emacs rmail used the rmail format. GNUS
> could use the other standard formats like mbox or MH folders.
>
> (all from a foggy memory, too).
>
> --Amos

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