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Hetz Ben Hamo | 1 Jan 2006 02:22
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skype "router"

Hi people,

I was wondering if anyone have heard about a router box that also has
skype capabilities (I'm not talking about a router which can forward
traffic).

If not, has anyone tried Skype for Linux under a really low end
hardware? what are the results?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Tzahi Fadida | 1 Jan 2006 03:04
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RE: skype "router"

I won't dismiss a simple port forwarding solution. In skype there is an incoming
port you can change and define at the router to forward a specific port to a workstation.

However, I am guessing you are asking about something that automatically
identifies the related incoming connections to the outgoing connections.
If there is such a thing, I would also like to hear about it.

In any case, take heed that skype, when opened, will certainly waste your
bandwidth especially when it is not used. 
If you are talking about a VOIP solution to your office you would
probably prefer a solution that goes thru your VPN.

Interchangeably, if such a skype plug-in for netfilter exists it might be
possible to open the firewall incoming ports only for outgoing calls.

Regards,
	tzahi. 

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> Hi people,
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> I was wondering if anyone have heard about a router box that also has
> skype capabilities (I'm not talking about a router which can forward
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Michael Vasiliev | 1 Jan 2006 03:27
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Re: skype "router"

On Sunday January 1 2006 03:22, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> If not, has anyone tried Skype for Linux under a really low end
> hardware? what are the results?

Define really low end hardware. So far, I've run skype on Gentoo Celeron 
400Mhz box with alsa snd_ens1371 driver for onboard chip. The sound quality 
was acceptable.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson | 1 Jan 2006 09:32

Re: skype "router"

On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 03:22:13AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone have heard about a router box that also has
> skype capabilities (I'm not talking about a router which can forward
> traffic).

A while ago I posted a comment to this list about a box which was "made"
by a company called CIDAV that had a USB connection to a computer
and Skype drivers for windows.

They never answered my email about Linux drivers. The device it turns out
is made in China and sold on the internet under at least a dozen names
all over the world. None of the dealers nor the manufacturer had linux
drivers for it.

If it truely is a router, then it does not matter what operating system you
use as long as it not configured using a closed source tool. One would hope
that it configured using a web browser, but check.

Make sure that the firmware update funcions can be done from the web
broswer. Skype changes their code fairly often (at least on X86 processors)
and I doubt the unit will function in a year without an upgrade.

> If not, has anyone tried Skype for Linux under a really low end
> hardware? what are the results?

Is Skype necessary? There are several free SIP (open standard) proxies
on the web, the best known is Jeff Pulver's Free World Dialup, there
is also a busy one in the San Francisco bay area. 

They work with any "softphone" some of which are open source. If you
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Omer Zak | 2 Jan 2006 08:24
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"Fixing" version of eps files exported by gimp

There are two versions of eps files.  One version is identified by the
following text in its first line:

  PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0

The other version is identified by:

  PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0

(Both are preceded by percent-exclamation which I did not include)

Turns out that gimp 2.2.6 (the version shipped with Debian Sarge)
exports to eps version 3.0, while other tools export/expect eps version
2.0.

I found that hand-editing the first line from 3.0 to 2.0 makes the other
tool which I used (docbook2pdf) happy.  The sed command which does the
same thing is:

  sed -e 1s/3\\.0/2.0/g < ver3epsfile.eps > ver2epsfile.eps

I do not know what are the real differences between version 2.0 and 3.0
and whether gimp actually uses any 3.0 specific features.

This E-mail message was posted after a friend told me that eps files
exported by gimp do not work also in application which he uses.
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Nadav Har'El | 2 Jan 2006 10:03
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Re: "Fixing" version of eps files exported by gimp

On Mon, Jan 02, 2006, Omer Zak wrote about ""Fixing" version of eps files exported by gimp":
> Turns out that gimp 2.2.6 (the version shipped with Debian Sarge)
> exports to eps version 3.0, while other tools export/expect eps version
> 2.0.

Given that EPSF 3.0 was created in 1992, isn't it silly that modern tools
still have problems with it?

They can stick to the 2.0 standard in the comments they generate, but 14
years (!) is more than enough time to get these programs to *accept* 3.0 epsf.
Not to mention that the differences are actually tiny: as you saw, just
accepting the "3.0" line is enough for most applications, without any further
change! I suggest you write the authors of relevant applications and ask
them to make the trivial change necessary to their code.

Check out the last chapter of
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/ps/5002.EPSF_Spec.pdf

to see what changed in EPSF 3.0 (the short story: nothing that should be
important to most applications).

>   sed -e 1s/3\\.0/2.0/g < ver3epsfile.eps > ver2epsfile.eps
> 
> I do not know what are the real differences between version 2.0 and 3.0
> and whether gimp actually uses any 3.0 specific features.

Since your trivial sed worked, it means that nothing important changed; The
application in question should have just accepted EPSF 3.0, just as it
accepts 2.0...
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Shlomo Solomon | 2 Jan 2006 17:21
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(OT??) MP3 player

This is **probably** a hardware problem, but I'd like an opinion if I'm right.

I bought two USB MP3 players for my children. They both worked and we were 
able to transfer MP3s from the computer to the USB devices in both Win98 and 
Mandrake LINUX.

After about an hour, my kids' Win98 machine crashed while transfering MP3s to 
one of the devices. I don't know if Win98 crashed the MP3 or if the MP3 
crashed Win98 (the chicken and the egg), but now that device is no longer 
recognized by the computer.

Here's what I get from "tail -f /var/log/messages" when connecting the **bad** 
device:

Jan  2 17:42:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 15

And I can't mount the device.

Here's what I get from the **good** device:

Jan  2 17:44:31 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 16
Jan  2 17:44:31 shlomo1 kernel: scsi41 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
devices
Jan  2 17:44:31 shlomo1 kernel:   Vendor:           Model:                   
Rev:
Jan  2 17:44:31 shlomo1 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Jan  2 17:44:31 shlomo1 kernel: SCSI device sdd: 972193 512-byte hdwr sectors
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Oded Arbel | 2 Jan 2006 17:52
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Re: (OT??) MP3 player

On Monday, 2 בJanuary 2006 18:21, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I bought two USB MP3 players for my children. They both worked and we
> were able to transfer MP3s from the computer to the USB devices in
> both Win98 and Mandrake LINUX.
>
> After about an hour, my kids' Win98 machine crashed while transfering
> MP3s to one of the devices. I don't know if Win98 crashed the MP3 or
> if the MP3 crashed Win98 (the chicken and the egg), but now that
> device is no longer recognized by the computer.

> Jan  2 17:42:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device
> using address 15
>
> And I can't mount the device.

> So, am I correct in assuming that this is a hardware problem, or is
> there something else I can try?

It seems like the device is broken to the point where it doesn't even 
register as a usb mass-storage device.

> BTW, the users manual suggests formatting in case of data corruption,
> but with no /dev being assigned, I have no way to do that.

I don't think this is a simple case of data corruption. Is the device 
recognized under Win98 ? I assume you installed the drivers that came 
with the device if you use Win98 - even if the device appears to be 
recognized correctly w/o the drivers: the win98 USB implementations is 
broken in more ways that I have room to describe..
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Oded Arbel | 2 Jan 2006 18:18
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Re: denemo script help

On Thursday, 29 בDecember 2005 16:49, Aaron wrote:
> I write documentation for denemo (denemo.sourceforge.net). Denemo is
> very keyboard centric with many keybindings and the ability to
> customize the keybindings very easily.

What is a "denemo" ? from the fact that its hosted on sourceforge, I 
assume its some kind of software, most likely open source. Its keyboard 
centric so it probably involves some user input - is it a new paint 
program, or a media manager ? (and no - I can't be troubled to go to 
the site and look for myself. I haven't heard even the tiniest bits of 
a sales pitch, and I'm not interested).

> I have an example of keybinding charts and a handcoded docbook file.
> Is there some kind perl or pythoner out there who could offer a
> script which will help spit out docbook charts from the keybinding
> charts?

Try this for size. There are two problems:
1) the keybinding name is descriptive but hardly appropriate for a 
documentation file.
2) I have no idea how to translate the binding descriptor to something 
humans can read.
I have provided functions for both translations, which currently return 
the same value as provided. It should be fairly easy to change it to do 
something else.

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Shlomi Fish | 2 Jan 2006 23:15
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Telux: Presentation about Vim on 8 January 2006

The Tel Aviv Linux Club (Telux - http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/)
is starting the season of the regular presentations with a presentation of 
Sagiv Barhoom about the Vim text editor. The presentation will take place on 
Sunday, 8 January 2006, at 18:30, in room 008 of the Schreiber building in 
Tel Aviv University. More details can be found on the site.

Vim is a powerful and cross-platform text editor, that is very comfortable
after one becomes accustomed with it. The presentation was written by 
Sagiv in collaboration with Shlomi Fish.

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