Re: SCO SCO SCO (or whatever)

Shachar Shemesh <linux-il@...> writes:

> It is strange that we have not managed to get a response published,
> though. It appears Globes are not interested in getting anything
> resembling both sides of the story straight.

Do we know anything about their business structure? I mean, who owns
the paper?

I am not trying to insinuate anything. I just think it's important to
know things like that when you deal with such bodies.

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Re: SCO SCO SCO (or whatever)

Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt <pub@...>:

> Shachar Shemesh <linux-il@...> writes:
> 
> > It is strange that we have not managed to get a response published,
> > though. It appears Globes are not interested in getting anything
> > resembling both sides of the story straight.
> 
> Do we know anything about their business structure? I mean, who owns
> the paper?

To the best of my knowledge, Globes is owned mostly by Fishman Holdings. I don't
think it actually has a tie with Microsoft Israel. The company where I work is
partially owned by Globes, I can snoop around for some more details if you wish.

Herouth

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Re: SCO SCO SCO (or whatever)

Shahar and all other on linux-il whom concern.....

after reading your long and very detailed mail about why did HAMAKOR lost this 
round I would like to publish some of my own insight ( if it is of any 
concern to someone here.. )

1. Linux and open source got much bigger communittee in Israel then it had in 
the past ( I'm talking 2-3 years ago...)

2. it seems that there are two LOS ( Linux-OpenSource just for short.. ) 
communittees working with out any coordination. the first the eldest and more 
experienced LOS users that mainly gether in iglu and linux-il mailing list 
and the other newly arrived and much less experienced by average that getherd 
at whatsup/penguin sites.

3. the elders are much more exclusive group that doesn't mingle with the 
newbies that starting their way up the LOS world.

4. ever since the Makor started it's act it neglected to use the largest stage 
that avail. to it for accessing the crowds. whatsup is defiantly today the 
largest place on then net which deals with LOS matters and try to bring as 
much info and knowledge to the public.

regarding the last events that took place....

a. HaMakor didn't not referred to SCO and Arie Scop by publishing any respose 
to whatsup.. ( I guess protest was sent to other sites as you mentioned 
"People&Computers", "Ynet" and others.. ) but none formal respond to whatsup 
( where many of the sec. group I mentioned above visiting on a regular daily 
basis )

Re: SCO SCO SCO (or whatever)

Yehuda Drori wrote:

>Shahar and all other on linux-il whom concern.....
>
>after reading your long and very detailed mail about why did HAMAKOR lost this 
>round I would like to publish some of my own insight ( if it is of any 
>concern to someone here.. )
>
>1. Linux and open source got much bigger communittee in Israel then it had in 
>the past ( I'm talking 2-3 years ago...)
>
>2. it seems that there are two LOS ( Linux-OpenSource just for short.. ) 
>communittees working with out any coordination. the first the eldest and more 
>experienced LOS users that mainly gether in iglu and linux-il mailing list 
>and the other newly arrived and much less experienced by average that getherd 
>at whatsup/penguin sites.
>
>3. the elders are much more exclusive group that doesn't mingle with the 
>newbies that starting their way up the LOS world.
>
>4. ever since the Makor started it's act it neglected to use the largest stage 
>that avail. to it for accessing the crowds. whatsup is defiantly today the 
>largest place on then net which deals with LOS matters and try to bring as 
>much info and knowledge to the public.
>  
>
Hi Yehuda,

The points you raise are valid points, and worth noting. While I agree 
with the criticism, I think it is not correctly pointed.

[JOBOFFER] Linux sysadmin (full time)

RPM subpackages

Quick-question:

Does the RPM "subpackages" capability allow me to cook an RPM of a
main-product-tree with subpackageX, and later issue a seperate RPM
containing a more-updated version of subpackageX only, that will allow -U
operation over the subpackageX initially installed without complaining I
have the same file in 2 different rpms in the database?

Thanks!
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founding PR task force

Hi all,

I am forming a PR task force. All people who think they can help with
public relations, please let me know. We will form around a mailing list
called "pr@...".

Haim and Doron - too late for you. You are already subscribed. Yehuda,
given your last email to linux-il, I think you should join too. If
nothing else, only to post announcments to whatsup when their ready.

          Shachar

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Re: RPM subpackages

On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 04:15:10PM +0300, Miki Shapiro wrote:
> 
> Quick-question:
> 
> Does the RPM "subpackages" capability allow me to cook an RPM of a
> main-product-tree with subpackageX, and later issue a seperate RPM
> containing a more-updated version of subpackageX only, that will allow -U
> operation over the subpackageX initially installed without complaining I
> have the same file in 2 different rpms in the database?
> 

The answer is yes. A sub-package is a totally separate package.

Note, however, that at time one subpackage may depend on
another-subpackage=%{version}-%{release} (I'm not sure my syntax is
correct). e.g: the -devel subpackage should be of the same version of
the main package, if it is installed.

But any such dependecy should be set manually.

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Re: RPM subpackages

As long as the secondary package includes a newer version of the file
(in the primary package), -U should work.
At worse, the user will be required to add "--nodeps" to the second
package's installation.

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On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 16:15, Miki Shapiro wrote:
> Quick-question:
> 
> Does the RPM "subpackages" capability allow me to cook an RPM of a
> main-product-tree with subpackageX, and later issue a seperate RPM
> containing a more-updated version of subpackageX only, that will allow
-U
> operation over the subpackageX initially installed without complaining
I
> have the same file in 2 different rpms in the database?
> 
> Thanks!
> --
> Miki Shapiro <aris at pharoe dot com>
> Unixophilic Software Developer
> ---------------------------------------------
> Tel: +972-(56)-322433  ICQ: 3EE853
> ---------------------------------------------
> If at first you don't succeed...
> .. SkyDiving is probbably not for you.
> 
> 
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Re: RPM subpackages

Thx Gilboa & Zafrir

One more question - I can't figure this out from the docs..
Can I build a main package WITHOUT one/some/all of the subpackages?

Thx!

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