pravins | 24 Feb 07:00 2015

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : F22 I18n testcase improvement

Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   F22 I18n testcase improvement on 2015-02-25 from 06:00:00 to 07:00:00 UTC
   At fedora-i18n <at> irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
We are going to have i18n test day for Fedora 22 on 19th March. This time we are going to use testday app. 

To improve our test case (cleaning old and adding new) we are planning this activity.

Agenda:
1. Identify testcase of your interest. If not available create one. 
2. Check its validity.
3. Update on testday app.

Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org//calendar//meeting/2263/

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Fedora Internationalization | 19 Feb 06:57 2015

#46: Wiki update required for yum to dnf

#46: Wiki update required for yum to dnf
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  Reporter:  pravins  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  task     |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Keywords:
Blocked By:           |  Blocking:
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 = description =
 Wherever applied we need to update i18n wiki pages for DNF related
 information.

 = reason =
 DNF is going to be default from F22 onwards.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF

 = recommendation/goal =
 This is only for updating our documentation pages not fedora packages.

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pravin.d.s@gmail.com | 18 Feb 12:14 2015
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Minutes of i18n meeting help on 2015/02/18 06:00:00 UTC

Hi All,

  We had good meeting today. Most of the discussion was focused on Fedora 22 Test day and Change proposals. Following are minutes.

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-02-18/i18n.2015-02-18-06.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-02-18 (pravins, 06:00:14) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:02:08) * 2015-02-10 Branch Fedora 22 from Rawhide (pravins, 06:02:13) * 2015-02-24 Alpha Freeze (pravins, 06:02:13) * 2015-02-24 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:02:13) * 2015-02-24 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:02:13) * 2015-02-24 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:02:13) * 2015-03-10 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:02:14) * Outstanding topic (pravins, 06:02:46) * #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (i18n <at> lists.fedoraproject.org) (pravins, 06:02:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36 (pravins, 06:02:52) * ACTION: anish to update #36 as per reply from whot. (pravins, 06:04:04) * /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml provide xkb layouts information. (pravins, 06:13:15) * Outstanding task (pravins, 06:13:29) * #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) (pravins, 06:13:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42 (pravins, 06:13:36) * ACTION: pravins to schedule gathering for i18n test case cleanup and adding new test cases. (pravins, 06:18:15) * ACTION: pravins to write article in Fedora Magzine for testing i18n. (pravins, 06:18:35) * New topics (pravins, 06:18:55) * #39: Bugs corner (pravins) (pravins, 06:19:04) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/39 (pravins, 06:19:10) * #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins) (pravins, 06:22:50) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 (pravins, 06:22:55) * ACTION: pravins to ping lxo for Fedora build. (pravins, 06:29:24) * #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:30:34) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:30:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18nTeam_2015 (pravins, 06:31:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 (pravins, 06:42:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014 (pravins, 06:43:02) * #44: Fedora badge for i18n team member (pnemade) (pravins, 06:45:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/44 (pravins, 06:45:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_SCM_admin_requests#Pseudo-users_and_Groups_for_SIGs (paragan, 06:51:48) * it will motivate people to add virtual fas users i18n-team and fonts-sig in packages. (pravins, 06:53:58) * Open Floor (pravins, 06:55:54) * LINK: http://fudcon.in/call-paper (pravins, 06:57:15) Meeting ended at 07:02:21 UTC. Action Items ------------ * anish to update #36 as per reply from whot. * pravins to schedule gathering for i18n test case cleanup and adding new test cases. * pravins to write article in Fedora Magzine for testing i18n. * pravins to ping lxo for Fedora build. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pravins * pravins to schedule gathering for i18n test case cleanup and adding new test cases. * pravins to write article in Fedora Magzine for testing i18n. * pravins to ping lxo for Fedora build. * **UNASSIGNED** * anish to update #36 as per reply from whot. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (137) * paragan (22) * juhp_ (15) * mfabian (9) * anish_ (8) * tagoh_ (7) * zodbot (3) * smaitra_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
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Fedora Internationalization | 18 Feb 06:15 2015

#45: Docs beat for Fedora 22

#45: Docs beat for Fedora 22
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  Reporter:  pravins  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  task     |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Keywords:
Blocked By:           |  Blocking:
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 = phenomenon =
 As per Fedora 22 schedule Alpha release is going to happen 2015-03-10.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/22/Schedule

 As usual we need to provide docs beat for F22. Next week lets plan some
 activity around same.

 Schedule for Docs https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-docs-
 tasks.html

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Pravin Satpute | 17 Feb 08:05 2015

i18n meeting reminder 2015/02/18 06:00:00 UTC

Hi All,

     We have scheduled i18n meeting tomorrow (18th Feb 2015) At 6.00UTC.
Please go through the agenda [1] page.

     Looking forward to see you there. Feel free to add any missing topic :)

Regards,
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1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-02-18
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Fedora Internationalization | 16 Feb 09:29 2015

#44: Fedora badge for i18n team member

#44: Fedora badge for i18n team member
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  Reporter:  pnemade  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  meeting  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Keywords:
Blocked By:           |  Blocking:
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 = phenomenon =
 I have proposed a Fedora badge for members of i18n team. See
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/351 ticket. But this
 requires to discuss and get approval from team members about how this
 badge should be awarded? This mean to which people we need to award this
 badge.

 I have proposed that we need to award this badge to owner of packages that
 will add i18n-team as a InitialCC to their packages. This will mean that
 all such owners of packages are part of i18n team who are working on
 providing various i18n functionality in Fedora.

 Note not all fonts people have added i18n-team to their packages so I have
 created another proposal for fonts SIG member badge for people adding font
 packages in Fedora with fonts-sig as InitialCC. See
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/350

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pravin.d.s@gmail.com | 4 Feb 07:59 2015
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Minutes of i18n meeting help on 2015/02/04 06:00:00 UTC

Hi All,

   We had nice i18n meeting today. Major topics discussed today were. i18n test day, change proposal for Fedora 22, Docs Beat for i18n and also touched upon FAD for i18n.

Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-02-04 (pravins, 06:00:25) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:02:01) * 2015-02-10 Branch Fedora 22 from Rawhide (pravins, 06:02:01) * 2015-02-24 Alpha Freeze (pravins, 06:02:01) * 2015-02-24 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:02:02) * 2015-02-24 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:02:02) * 2015-02-24 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:02:03) * 2015-03-10 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:02:05) * Tracking docs from next meeting. (pravins, 06:08:53) * Outstanding topic (pravins, 06:08:59) * #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (i18n <at> lists.fedoraproject.org) (pravins, 06:09:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36 (pravins, 06:09:03) * ACTION: anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts. (pravins, 06:11:18) * ACTION: paragan to cleanup xkb layout on wiki. (pravins, 06:11:52) * Outstanding task (pravins, 06:12:03) * #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) (pravins, 06:12:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42 (pravins, 06:12:03) * AGREED: 19th march date for i18n test day. (pravins, 06:24:28) * New topics (pravins, 06:24:45) * #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins) (pravins, 06:24:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 (pravins, 06:24:45) * #41: Need to check whether any F22 proposed change affect i18n (pravins) (pravins, 06:28:25) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/41 (pravins, 06:28:25) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF22 (pravins, 06:28:32) * Changes/DnfLangpacksPlugin feature is 100% complete. (pravins, 06:29:38) * #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:32:25) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:32:25) * Open Floor (pravins, 06:38:47) Meeting ended at 06:45:21 UTC. Action Items ------------ * anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts. * paragan to cleanup xkb layout on wiki. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * anish_ * anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts. * anish__ * anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts. * paragan * paragan to cleanup xkb layout on wiki. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (96) * tagoh_ (10) * anish__ (10) * paragan (7) * zodbot (3) * shilpa (1) * anish_ (1) * epico (1) * fujiwarat (1)  
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Pravin Satpute | 3 Feb 07:17 2015
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i18n meeting reminder 2015/02/04 06:00:00 UTC

Hi All,

     We have scheduled i18n meeting tomorrow (04th Feb 2015) At 6.00UTC. Please go through the agenda [1] page.

     Looking forward to see you there. Feel free to add any missing topic :)

Regards,
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#43: I18n FAD in 2015

#43: I18n FAD in 2015
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  Reporter:  pravins  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  meeting  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Keywords:
Blocked By:           |  Blocking:
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 Discussing whether it is possible ot have FAD targeting on
 internationalization activity. Most of the things depends upon.
 1. Budget
 2. Availability of members.
 3. Task At Hand.

 Lets discuss possible dates and location for FAD.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18nTeam_2015

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Pravin Satpute | 2 Feb 12:49 2015

Initial draft for Internationalization FAD proposal

Hi All,

   I mentioned briefly last time in weekly meeting regarding having FAD
specifically targeted on i18n activities. I went ahead and created
proposal for same. Please go through proposal [1] its in very initial
stage presently.  There are lots of TODO's and planning before it can
actually happen but lets start at least.
   I have mentioned possible activities we can do during the FAD. We can
remove some and also add more.
   Lets discuss it in more detail in upcoming Fedora i18n meeting and
decide whether we should do it or not. Possible dates and location.

   If you don't know regarding FAD. Please read [2] most of the things
are mentioned there.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18nTeam_2015
2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD
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Pravin Satpute | 30 Jan 05:14 2015
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Re: [Lohit-devel-list] In long term we should use Adobe font development kit (AFDKO) for Lohit ttf build

On Thursday 29 January 2015 08:17 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

AFDKOs libre version doesn't include the removeOverlap() method, so you need something else to do that, and fontforge improved its version substantially last year.

Fontforge also improved its UFO support, such that you can use it to develop UFO+FDK projects (like Adobe Source Sans+Serif)

However, Fontforge has supported importing and exporting fea files for many years, and is scriptable for command line use.

Before deciding to switch, I recommend setting up both a fontforge and fdk based workflow from the same source and comparing the resulting binaries, and also considering how maintainable and comprehensive each is.

Agree with you. We will do comparison.
I am thinking for at least one change is to use makeotf for building ttf. I think OTM and Fontlab using it in the backend. So good if we can build Lohit ttf also with it.

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On Jan 29, 2015 3:18 AM, "Pravin Satpute" <psatpute <at> redhat.com> wrote:
Hi All,

   I was thinking for this from some time now.
   Reasons:
  1. Lots of well know fonts are using AFDKO. AFAIK Adobe fonts are build using AFDKO.
  2. Things we required in Lohit specifically, easy to read feature files and final ttf with Adobe glyph naming guideline looks easily manageable with AFDKO.  (GlyphOrderAndAliasDB and .Fea)
  3. AFDKO feature file compilation is much better than Fontforge. Noticed this earlier with OTM errors. Also while compiling i found number of error not identified by fontforge.
  4. All command line, so we can automate very nicely.
  5. We will use fontforge only for outline related work. Presently we are still using fontforge for OpenType rules writing, i have not faced any problem into it yet. But perfect solution is we should write open type rules in .fea file itself.  This at least not targeting presently

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