Fedora Internationalization | 16 Oct 10:36 2014

#37: Should we need i18n-sig fas group?

#37: Should we need i18n-sig fas group?
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  Reporter:  pnemade  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  meeting  |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major    |  Keywords:
Blocked By:           |  Blocking:
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 = phenomenon =
 This is based on
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/203114.html

 some points to discuss
 1) Do we need i18n-sig fas group?
 2) What should it be used for? CC'ing on i18n bugs, group commit access on
 i18n packages
 3) Adding all i18n package maintainers to i18n-sig
 4) Should this be kept small? ( I mean no fonts packages added to i18n-
 sig) Thus we endup with 162 packages.

 As of today https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/i18n-team we
 got 263 packages there of which 101 fonts packages.

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Pravin Satpute | 13 Oct 09:33 2014
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Released Lohit Assamese 2.91.0 (Alpha) under lohit2 project

Hi all,

   Last week we done with initial release of Lohit Bengali 2.91.0 [1].  Comparing Assamese and Bengali
language fonts brings out following points.
   1. Both follows same Unicode range. [2]
   2. Assamese has following alternatives over to Bengali :- 09F0 (ৰ) &     09F1 (ৱ)

  AFAIK there are not much difference other than this. Considering this i thought it is good time to do release
of the Lohit Assamese as well so we can get testing from both Assamese and Bengali communities.

  Highlight's are not much different than we announced for Lohit Bengali but i think good to mention again
here. 

    - Support for both "beng" & " bng2" open type script tags
    - Rewritten all open type rules.
    - Following Unicode, OpenType and AGL specifications.
    - Automated Testing module available
    - Rules available in feature file, compiled using AFDKO (adobe font development kit)
    - Tested on W8, Harfbuzz, utrrs.
    - Removing redundant characters (specifically the half forms since anchor-positioning applied to them)
    - Implementing "copy reference" feature 

    Fedorahosted page is updated with download details [3]. I will soon build this for Fedora, feel free to
report issues and suggest improvement AT github [4]. Information about Lohit2 project is available AT [5]

Best Regards,
Pravin Satpute

1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2014/10/lohit-bengali-alpha-version-2910-is.html
2. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0980.pdf
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Jens Petersen | 8 Oct 06:59 2014
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Mission statement

Hi,

In last week's meeting I brought the idea that perhaps
we should have a Mission Statement for the Fedora I18n project,
and we agreed to take the discussion to the mailing to
save meeting time.

I haven't given it a lot of thought yet but it might be
something of the form say:

"The Mission of the Fedora i18n Project is to ensure we have the best possible international language OS
support in Fedora".

I think we can probably do better than that though: what ideas do others have?

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#36: review gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages

#36: review gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages
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  Reporter:  petersen  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  meeting   |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major     |  Keywords:
Blocked By:            |  Blocking:
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 = phenomenon =
 GNOME has plans to redesign Region and Languages in gnome-control-center.
 I thought it would be good to have more of us look over this and review
 it,
 so that we can provide early timely feedback on the planned design
 changes.

 https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/RegionAndLanguage

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pravin.d.s@gmail.com | 1 Oct 11:57 2014
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Update "Nice to Test" section on Fedora i18n test page

Hi All,

  I removed following bugs from "Nice to Test" section [1]

* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664008 (ml_IN) default font size with all libreoffice GUI (translated) is small as compared to gnome application]

Now sms meera fonts is improved and no need for scaling.

* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673449 Need to update Rupee symbol for locale file (hi_IN)]

Rupee symbol added in glibc upstrem and available in Fedora from some time now.

* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799565 Lohit Malayalam font does not have support for 0D4E MALAYALAM LETTER DOT REPH]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=766493 <nowiki>[mr] Marathi needs changes in Devanagari glyphs</nowiki>]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771685 <nowiki>[as_IN] Position and joint of 'ু', 'ূ', 'ৃ' in letters not correct</nowiki>]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718949 <nowiki>[te_IN] Lohit font has different glyph shape for * character (used for password characters)</nowiki>]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694724 <nowiki>[kn_IN] 0CB0 + 200D + 0CCD + 0C95+ 0CBE consonant is wrongly rendering</nowiki>]

Fixed in Lohit upstream and available in Fedora.


*[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794679 <nowiki>[Indic] New Indic Rupee symbol not populated correctly</nowiki>]

This bug is closed now.

* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799384 Problems with glyphs Ѝ (U+040D) for Bulgarian language (Problems with glyphs Ѝ (U+040D) for Bulgarian language)]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708330 liberations-sans italic and bold italic contain wrong shape at U+0438 and U+0439]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714191 Glyph '1' not the same width as other numerals (liberation-fonts)]

Fixed in Liberation fonts upstream and also available in Fedora.

  Still there are some bugs we can remove from list.

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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N cleanup

#35: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N cleanup
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  Reporter:  petersen  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  task      |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major     |  Keywords:
Blocked By:            |  Blocking:
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 = description =
 The [[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N I18N wiki page]] needs a cleanup
 and refresh.

 = reason =
 Lots of old cruft that should be cleaned up.

 = recommendation/goal =
 Remove unwanted/obsolete sections/info.
 Possibly some could be moved to separate pages or trac tickets if still
 needed.
 To get a clean simple easy to read/navigate toplevel page.

 We may also want to think about hierarchy of pages below.

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Fedora Internationalization | 29 Sep 12:01 2014

#34: need Fedora i18n Mission Statement

#34: need Fedora i18n Mission Statement
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  Reporter:  petersen  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  meeting   |    Status:  new
  Priority:  major     |  Keywords:
Blocked By:            |  Blocking:
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 = phenomenon =
 I think the Fedora I18n Project needs some kind of Mission Statement to
 guide our direction.  This is a call for discussion to form such a
 statement and add
 the mission to near the top of the I18N wiki page.

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Ani Peter | 27 Aug 13:14 2014
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora QA] #450: Fedora 21 Translation (L10n) Test Day

Dear all,

Just noticed that the Fedora 21 schedule has changed again as below [1] :

Alpha Release : 9th Septemeber
Translation Deadline: 30th September

In this case, there is no use having L10n test day on 9th September. 
Hence I suggest we can move this date to 23rd September. The slot is 
free [2].

What say guys?

Best regards
Ani

[1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule
[2] - https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/QA/?subject=Test+Day

On 08/01/2014 12:00 PM, apeter <at> redhat.com wrote:
> Alright guys lets move to Sept 9th.
>
> On 08/01/2014 09:42 AM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>> (2014年07月31日 17:07), apeter <at> redhat.com wrote:
>>> The translation deadline is moved to Sept 16 [1] . In that case 
>>> shall we
>>> move our L10n test day to 8th or 9th September? Slot is free [2]. What
>>> say guys??
>>
>> +1, prob 9-Sep "first Tuesday"[1].
>> [1]:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_QA_Test_Day
>
> Yup for this release we can have it on first tuesday :)
>
>>
>> noriko
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ani
>>>
>>> [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule
>>> [2] - https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/QA/?subject=Test+Day
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:     Re: [Fedora QA] #450: Fedora 21 Translation (L10n) Test 
>>> Day
>>> Date:     Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:12:39 -0000
>>> From:     Fedora QA <trac <at> fedorahosted.org>
>>> Reply-To:     nobody <at> fedoraproject.org, For testing and quality 
>>> assurance
>>> of Fedora releases <test <at> lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>> To:     anipeter <at> fedoraproject.org, pschindl <at> fedoraproject.org
>>> CC:     fltg <at> lists.fedoraproject.org, test <at> lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #450: Fedora 21 Translation (L10n) Test Day
>>> -----------------------+-----------------------
>>>    Reporter:  anipeter  |      Owner:  pschindl
>>>        Type:  task      |     Status:  assigned
>>>    Priority:  major     |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
>>>   Component:  Test Day  |    Version:
>>> Resolution:            |   Keywords:
>>> Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
>>> -----------------------+-----------------------
>>>
>>> Comment (by roshi):
>>>
>>>   Is the translation deadline still on August 26? Or will you want 
>>> to move
>>>   this testday back as well?
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Fedora Internationalization | 26 Aug 11:36 2014

#33: Keep watching MozTrap related discussion

#33: Keep watching MozTrap related discussion
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  Reporter:  pnemade  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
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 On test list there is this thread started
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-August/122405.html. We
 need to keep watching this as F21 test days are coming soon.

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Fedora Internationalization | 13 Aug 05:38 2014

#32: Fedora 21 i18n test day

#32: Fedora 21 i18n test day
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  Reporter:  tagoh  |     Owner:  i18n <at> …
      Type:  task   |    Status:  new
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 = description =
 i18n test day is scheduled at 2nd September. we may need to update all of
 the test cases to ensure those works on f21.
 This ticket is a tracker for them.

 = recommendation/goal =
 We should finish checking by the meeting at 27th August.

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Aman Alam | 2 Aug 15:01 2014
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more Google Noto Fonts

Hi
I opened Google Noto Font page and found that there are 96 fonts 
available, while Fedora list is not that big. Also built package showing
20130807-2.fc21
while some more language available on project page.
  Gurmukhi (Punjabi) fonts are available on Site, but need to include in 
Fedora.

Can we include more fonts and build for Fedora 21?

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