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Matias Kreder | 1 Jun 2011 01:13
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Re: how to enable SPICE?

I will migrate to x86_64, thanks!

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Konstantin Svist <fry.kun <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 02:09 PM, Matias Kreder wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For me it looks like SPICE was coming with Fedora 15:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SpiceInVirtManager
>>
>> but after upgrading and switching one of my VM's to Spice instead of VNC I get:
>>
>> Error starting domain: internal error Process exited while reading
>> console log output: qemu: -spice
>> port=5900,addr=127.0.0.1,disable-ticketing: there is no option group
>> "spice"
>> spice is not supported by this qemu build.
>>
>> I have tried both hypervisors "qemu" and "qemu-kvm".
>>
>> virt-manager has support for SPICE, but our qemu/kvm didn't come with
>> spice? I upgraded from F14, probably something was not installed...
>>
>> Regards
>> Matias
>
> 1: spice only works on x64 architecture, so make sure you have that
> 2: you can install spice packages, look for "spice" in the package list
>
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Sam Varshavchik | 1 Jun 2011 01:42
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Re: F15 doesn't believe my hardware clock uses local time

Tom Horsley writes:

> On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:26:21 -0400
> Sam Varshavchik wrote:
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> > Before I begin a long and painful adventure in pulling apart with what's
> > happening with systemd/initscripts, anyone has any clues where I should  
> look?
>
> Check /etc/adjtime, it should say LOCAL, not UTC. You can also run
> hwclock --localtime to resync the hardware clock to local time.

It's says LOCAL, and the hwclock is most certainly resynced. Besides, at  
eash reboot hwclock-save.service should assure that the bios clock gets  
synced. But, at the next boot, it's broken again.

> I just went through this with a Windows dual boot system, and I could
> swear I didn't say clock uses UTC when I installed, but maybe I
> did out of reflex.

I upgraded from F14. There were no issues before the upgrade.

I thought that it was odd that after I upgraded to F15, applied the updates,  
and rebooted a few times, the clock was off by twelve hours. I just shrugged  
it off as a gremlin, and resynced from my ntp server.

But when I noticed that the clock immediately jumped to being four hours  
later after a reboot, the alarm bell went off.

Unfortunately, now that we have this systemd infrastructure, it's not as
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n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 | 1 Jun 2011 01:25

Re: Not enough info, so no point

On 05/31/2011 09:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 10:54 AM, JD wrote:
>> Keep posting your problem along with
>> more information such as messages in /var/log/messages
>> which might shed some light on the nature of the
>> problem you are facing.
>
> Exactly.  Just claiming that it's impossible to upgrade from F14 to F15
> (Especially, I might add, when there are tens of thousands of
> counter-examples.) and ignoring all the suggestions made as to how to
> get us the information needed to help you isn't going to get you any
> help.  If you want the members of this list to give you help, you have
> to give them the information they need so that they can (maybe) figure
> out what went wrong.  Posting your smolt profile is probably the only
> substantive information you've offered, but you expect us to pull a
> solution to your upgrade woes out of a hat.
>
> And, you also have to remember that you're not paying for this
> assistance.  Those of us reading this list are offering help *for free*
> because we want to.  There's nothing in the world compelling us to help
> people who won't cooperate, so next time you ask for assistance, leave
> your "I'm entitled to this" attitude at the door.

Sorry to say this, but after some of the jaded comments you've made in 
the past I don't hold you in high regard.
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Timothy Murphy | 1 Jun 2011 01:35
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Re: Not enough info, so no point

n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:

> For my PC
> 
> Fedora 15 update fails
> 
> Fedora 15 install CD fails to boot
> 
> Fedora 15 Live KDE fails to boot
> 
> All fail to finish initialising hardware.

If I had had your experience 
(and I have had much worse, though not with Fedora-15)
I would probably try:

1. Try to install in text mode.
(My guess would be that your problem is with the graphics driver.)
I'm not sure if text mode is explicitly offered any more,
as it used to be?

[If I could find no other way, and had Fedora-14 on the machine,
I would abstract vmlinuz and initrd.img from the Fedora-15 DVD ISO
(by running " mount -o loop Fedora...iso /mnt")
copy them to /boot and add a stanza to grub.conf to call them
with a line like "kernel /vmlinuz text",
or else run grub interactively.]

2. Try the Fedora-15 netinstall CD.
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Joe Zeff | 1 Jun 2011 02:23
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Re: Not enough info, so no point

On 05/31/2011 04:25 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> Sorry to say this, but after some of the jaded comments you've made in
> the past I don't hold you in high regard.

*Shrug!*  That's your privilege.
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n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 | 1 Jun 2011 02:33

Re: Not enough info, so no point

On 05/31/2011 08:17 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:24:40 +0100
> "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930"<n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 <at> ntlworld.com>  wrote:
>
>> For my PC
>>
>> Fedora 15 update fails
>>
>> Fedora 15 install CD fails to boot
>>
>> Fedora 15 Live KDE fails to boot
>>
>> All fail to finish initialising hardware.
>>
>> smolt page :
>> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4917245b-ea15-44b1-ae4d-788c70a5a3d9
>>
>> Result : I shall not be updating to Fedora 15 any time soon
>
> Sorry to hear it.
>
> First: Do you wish to try and solve the above and/or get it tracked
> down so it can get fixed or others don't run into it?
>
> If not, sorry it didn't work out.
>
> If so, would you be willing to provide more information?
> I'd be happy to walk you through what to gather.
>
> kevin
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Antonio Olivares | 1 Jun 2011 02:35
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name of java rpm? jre native fedora java

Dear folks,

I am happily running Fedora 15 on several boxes.  Our school will be switching from VistaNet to PowerSchool
Online systems by Pearsons.  We used to do attendance/grading on Vistanet and now we will use Powerschool
online Gradebook which appears to need java to run.  On one of my machines I have java already as I run the testers:

http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

and it returns that java is present.  

but there is no rpm reported back:

[olivares <at> acer-aspire-1 ~]$ rpm -qa java
[olivares <at> acer-aspire-1 ~]$ 

I would like to know which rpm is the one that gives the open source/free java implementation in Fedora.  This
way I can install it on other machines in case it is not present and be ready to migrate to the new gradebook. 
Also if there are any teachers out there that have used PowerSchool Online Gradebook on Fedora and have any
caveats, tips, tricks to share them.  I would like to continue using Fedora/Linux to do these tasks.  I had
run Easy Grade Pro using wine for the last several years successfully and now the system changes again and I
want to be ready.  

Regards,

Antonio 
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Ed Greshko | 1 Jun 2011 02:37

Logout issue?

Running fully updated F15/64bit.

When logging out, I often have several apps running.  Among them are 
Google Chrome and Google Earth.

On a subsequent login I've had Google Chrome come up without it "pined 
tabs".  A restart of Chrome restored the pins.

Once, so far, Google Earth indicated that myplaces.kml was corrupt.  It 
restored from backup and all is OK for now.

The above never happened in F11 that I'd been running for quite some 
time.  This would seem, on the surface, to suggest a race condition of 
some sort.

Just wondering if anyone has seen this?  Unfortunately, it does not 
happen with any frequency or consistency.
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Alex | 1 Jun 2011 02:43
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Re: Not enough info, so no point

What I don't get is if certain people are so jaded, why so they stick around? Like another person said, this is
all done for free. Its not like people here are stuck to answerin questions 40 hours a week. If questions
upset you, then hit the road. There's no reason for angry/jaded people to stick around here. It makes no
sense. 

On May 31, 2011, at 7:33 PM, "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" <n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 <at> ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On 05/31/2011 08:17 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:24:40 +0100
>> "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930"<n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 <at> ntlworld.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> For my PC
>>> 
>>> Fedora 15 update fails
>>> 
>>> Fedora 15 install CD fails to boot
>>> 
>>> Fedora 15 Live KDE fails to boot
>>> 
>>> All fail to finish initialising hardware.
>>> 
>>> smolt page :
>>> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4917245b-ea15-44b1-ae4d-788c70a5a3d9
>>> 
>>> Result : I shall not be updating to Fedora 15 any time soon
>> 
>> Sorry to hear it.
>> 
>> First: Do you wish to try and solve the above and/or get it tracked
>> down so it can get fixed or others don't run into it?
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JD | 1 Jun 2011 02:44
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Re: Not enough info, so no point

On 05/31/11 16:25, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> Sorry to say this, but after some of the jaded comments you've made in
> the past I don't hold you in high regard.
I have been seeing a lot of complaints about F15.
This tells me that this release was made in too much
of a hurry (only ~6 months after release of F14 around
near mid Nov. 2010).
Seems to me not enough testing was done before release.
Let's hope F16 will be more solid.

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