Mikkel L. Ellertson | 1 Jul 2009 01:06
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Re: usb mount point control

jack craig wrote:
> Hi Fedora Folks,
> 
> over the weekend, i decided to upgrade my fc10 to fc11. it wasnt too
> painful, it only broke my email and mplayer.
> 
> however, as i used my sd card to shuttle files to/from my moblin
> netbook, i had a /etc/fstab entry of the form, ...
> 
> /dev/sdd1  /media/disk             ext3                defaults   0 0
> 
> and this bought me the assurance that upon mount, /media/disk/.. is
> where i'd find my sd card files.
> 
> now with fc11, this same entry fails to do the job, i get a system
> generated mount point of the form, ...
> 
> /dev/sdd1 on /media/c35d465d-bf2b-4c9a-9fd4-5a6e02d8d219 type ext2
> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit)
> 
> and if i add my fstab entry, i get an error about only root can mount
> /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk.
> 
> could someone point me to how to override this behaviour?
> 
With that fstab entry, you should have gotten the same error in F10.
You need the user or users option to let a normal user mount an
entry in fstab. What it looks like you are getting as a mount point
is the uuid of the partation on the SD card. I suspect that the
fstab entry was not used in F10, and HAL was using /media/disk as
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jack craig | 1 Jul 2009 01:15
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Re: usb mount point control

you are on the money Mikkel,

after my first email, i noted that in fact what i had on FC10's fstab was /dev/sdb1, not the /dev/sdd1 that is the actual device node being used.

how happy i was in my ignorance!  i also just read in a related thread that using fstab isn't a good idea as its used primarily at boot time.

let me slap a label on this puppy and see if i can make it howl! :)

thx again, jackc...


On 06/30/2009 04:06 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
jack craig wrote:
Hi Fedora Folks, over the weekend, i decided to upgrade my fc10 to fc11. it wasnt too painful, it only broke my email and mplayer. however, as i used my sd card to shuttle files to/from my moblin netbook, i had a /etc/fstab entry of the form, ... /dev/sdd1 /media/disk ext3 defaults 0 0 and this bought me the assurance that upon mount, /media/disk/.. is where i'd find my sd card files. now with fc11, this same entry fails to do the job, i get a system generated mount point of the form, ... /dev/sdd1 on /media/c35d465d-bf2b-4c9a-9fd4-5a6e02d8d219 type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit) and if i add my fstab entry, i get an error about only root can mount /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk. could someone point me to how to override this behaviour?
With that fstab entry, you should have gotten the same error in F10. You need the user or users option to let a normal user mount an entry in fstab. What it looks like you are getting as a mount point is the uuid of the partation on the SD card. I suspect that the fstab entry was not used in F10, and HAL was using /media/disk as the mount point. Now, if you label the partition, you should get a mount point of /media/<label>. Mikkel

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Tom Horsley | 1 Jul 2009 01:34
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Re: f11 - missing font?

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:00:45 -0600
Frank Cox wrote:

> I hadn't, in fact.  But installing them didn't solve the problem.  (I logged
> out and logged back in to make sure, no joy...)

I've found a lot of stuff where logging in and out isn't good enough.
I wouldn't be too sure they aren't installed until you reboot and
they still aren't there.

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jack craig | 1 Jul 2009 01:35
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Re: usb mount point control

works like  a champ! this should be in the release notes!

THX!

On 06/30/2009 04:06 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
jack craig wrote:
Hi Fedora Folks, over the weekend, i decided to upgrade my fc10 to fc11. it wasnt too painful, it only broke my email and mplayer. however, as i used my sd card to shuttle files to/from my moblin netbook, i had a /etc/fstab entry of the form, ... /dev/sdd1 /media/disk ext3 defaults 0 0 and this bought me the assurance that upon mount, /media/disk/.. is where i'd find my sd card files. now with fc11, this same entry fails to do the job, i get a system generated mount point of the form, ... /dev/sdd1 on /media/c35d465d-bf2b-4c9a-9fd4-5a6e02d8d219 type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit) and if i add my fstab entry, i get an error about only root can mount /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk. could someone point me to how to override this behaviour?
With that fstab entry, you should have gotten the same error in F10. You need the user or users option to let a normal user mount an entry in fstab. What it looks like you are getting as a mount point is the uuid of the partation on the SD card. I suspect that the fstab entry was not used in F10, and HAL was using /media/disk as the mount point. Now, if you label the partition, you should get a mount point of /media/<label>. Mikkel

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Jeffrey Ross | 1 Jul 2009 01:46

last and IPv6

How can I get the full IP address of a user logging in via IPv6 with the
last command (or equivalent information elsewhere)

With an IPv4 address I can simply type "last -i" and the hostname (which
is usually truncated) is replaced with the IP address.

Problem is an IPv6 address being 128 bits long is too long to fit in the
provided field and is truncated after 16 characters, just like the
hostname.

Thanks, Jeff

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Rick Stevens | 1 Jul 2009 01:59

Re: last and IPv6

Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> How can I get the full IP address of a user logging in via IPv6 with the
> last command (or equivalent information elsewhere)
> 
> With an IPv4 address I can simply type "last -i" and the hostname (which
> is usually truncated) is replaced with the IP address.
> 
> Problem is an IPv6 address being 128 bits long is too long to fit in the
> provided field and is truncated after 16 characters, just like the
> hostname.

Have you tried widening the console and trying "last -ia"?
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g | 1 Jul 2009 01:32

Re: Xsane seg. fault -

Bob Goodwin wrote:

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> OK, Did that and it scans as it did in F-9!

good to know.

being that problem was in sane-backend, you still would have had problem
with gimp. trying gimp would have narrowed problem to sane.

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stan | 1 Jul 2009 02:54

Re: Audio woes on F11

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:50:08 +0100
Chris <chris1.noreply <at> googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I've got an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 card (ICE1712 chip) running on
> an AMD 64 bit CPU (can't remember exact model right now). I originally
> installed F11 x86_64 and had a few sound problems, but it worked if I
> disabled pulse audio.
> 
> I've just had to install the 32-bit version of Fedora 11 due to some
> work constraints (long story!). Now I can't get audio to work at all.
> 
> Firstly, my user was not part of the pulse-rt group so I added myself
> manually. This didn't happen when I installed the x86_64 version on
> the same PC which seems strange.
> 
> Secondly, I can't get audio to work at all. I've checked the Advance
> Volume Control and turned everything up. /var/log/messages shows the
> following:
> 
> Jun 30 21:33:20 localhost pulseaudio[2106]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed
> to find a working profile.
> Jun 30 21:33:20 localhost pulseaudio[2106]: module.c: Failed to load
> module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id=0
> name=usb_device_944_103_noserial_if0_sound_card_0
> card_name=alsa_card.usb_device_944_103_noserial_if0_sound_card_0
> tsched=1"): initialization failed.
> 
> Not quite sure why it mentions USB device since it's a PCI card.
> 
> lsmod shows the right module amongst the others although it's not
> used:
> 
> snd_ice1712            52724  0
> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx      2956  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_ak4xxx_adda         7040  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
> snd_cs8427              6652  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_ac97_codec         91576  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_usb_audio          74972  0
> snd_pcm                62632  3
> snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio snd_timer
> 17888  1 snd_pcm ac97_bus                1400  1 snd_ac97_codec
> snd_i2c                 4336  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
> snd_page_alloc          7644  1 snd_pcm
> snd_mpu401_uart         6316  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_usb_lib            14128  1 snd_usb_audio
> snd_rawmidi            18728  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_usb_lib
> snd_seq_device          5988  1 snd_rawmidi
> snd_hwdep               6584  1 snd_usb_audio
> snd                    49056  13
> snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep
> soundcore               5404  1 snd
> 
> Whenever I try to run alsamixer or pavucontrol when pulse is not
> running, I get this:
> 
> shm_open() failed: No such file or directory
> ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
> Connection efused
> 
> 
> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection
> refused
> 
> Maybe that's expected since pulse is not running.
> 
> I should also mention that I dual-boot Windows and it works fine
> there.
> 
> So, any ideas or recommendations for how to investigate?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Chris.
> 
The fact that there is a snd_usb_audio is suspicious.  It looks like
alsa is treating a usb device as a sound device, when it isn't.  But
it is being placed in the first slot, 0, which everything assumes is the
default sound device.  

run   aplay -l

to see what alsa thinks are your sound devices and the order they were
found.

And you can run the script at 

You could also run the script below and post the link or run with
option --no-upload and post the output so people can see what your
system configuration is.

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh 

Note, this gives a *lot* of information, most of it only of use to
developers.

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Steven F. LeBrun | 1 Jul 2009 03:27
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Kernel - PAE vs. non-PAE

When I installed F11 on my Toshiba laptop, it installed the PAE version of the kernel.  I am assuming that my laptop has a CPU with Physical Address Extensions functionality and can therefore address up to 64GB of memory.

My laptop only has 3 GB installed.  Can anyone explain the pro's and con's of using the PAE version of Linux kernel instead of the non-PAE version?

Would the PAE version of the 32-bit Linux Kernel see 4 GB of memory if it was installed where Vista 32-bits only sees about 3GB?  For that matter would the non-PAE version see the full 4 GB?

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Robert L Cochran | 1 Jul 2009 03:40
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Re: Kernel - PAE vs. non-PAE

I'm installing Fedora 11 on a rather ancient Toshiba Satellite 1905-S303 
laptop which ought to be tossed in the trash can, and that has the PAE 
kernel installed, too.

Bob

On 06/30/2009 09:27 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
> When I installed F11 on my Toshiba laptop, it installed the PAE 
> version of the kernel.  I am assuming that my laptop has a CPU with 
> Physical Address Extensions functionality and can therefore address up 
> to 64GB of memory.
>
> My laptop only has 3 GB installed.  Can anyone explain the pro's and 
> con's of using the PAE version of Linux kernel instead of the non-PAE 
> version?
>
> Would the PAE version of the 32-bit Linux Kernel see 4 GB of memory if 
> it was installed where Vista 32-bits only sees about 3GB?  For that 
> matter would the non-PAE version see the full 4 GB?
>
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> Quote: /"There are 10 types of people in this world, those that 
> understand binary and those who don't."/
>

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