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Nifty Fedora Mitch | 1 May 2009 01:18

Re: Difference between NAT and NAPT?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:49:13PM +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 April 2009 07:51, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:51:52PM +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > > In short, what is the difference? Are there any (dis)advantages of
> > > using one over the other?
> >
> > Put your subject line in a search engine like Google.
> >
> >   http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lewis/networkpages/m05s09NAT.htm
> >
> > For most "mortals" NAT is just fine.
> > NAPT may be needed on a large private network but
> > the hardware/ software has to work harder and thus
> > may cost more.
> 
> Well, I was already beginning to worry if my post made it to the list at 
> all. :-)
> 
> Of course, I did do some research on the subject, but all that I found was 
> described in a very general way, and consequently vague. So I was hoping to 
> start a conversation with someone knowledgeable, in order to get more 
> concrete answers.
> 
> My setup consists of three to five computers and a small wireless router, with 
> an adsl uplink utilizing a dynamic public IP address (just a single one, the 
> m=1 case in the article you quoted). What I would like to understand better 
> is the following:
> 
> * Why does my ISP's router manual insists on using NAPT over NAT? The ISP tech 
> support admitted to not understand why and have no explanation, but
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Steven Kemp | 1 May 2009 02:32

Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly

Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
Steve

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Peter Langfelder | 1 May 2009 02:36
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Re: Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Steven Kemp <SKemp010 <at> roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
> Steve

I have Win XP  and F10 installed on the same HDD on a Lenovo T60
laptop. No problems, but then I don't think I used the XP a single
time since installing Fedora. To my knowledge the only issue is
setting the hardware clock - when you install fedora, you choose a
particular way of setting the clock so it doesn't clash with the one
XP uses.

HTH,

Peter

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Arthur Pemberton | 1 May 2009 02:43
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Re: Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Steven Kemp <SKemp010 <at> roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
> Steve

Nothing special. You may want to create some unused drive space (via a
partition manager) from Windows, and upon install tell Fedora to use
the un-utilized space only. If you run into problems, hop on to
irc://freenode/fedora

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Robert L Cochran | 1 May 2009 02:51
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Re: "Blinking lights of death" ? Netgear Switch GS108


On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran
> <cochranb <at> speakeasy.net>  wrote:
>    
>> Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a
>> power failure struck?
>>
>> If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try to find the time to
>> take a look at it in the next few months. I'm still very much an amateur,
>> and I'd like to try analyzing why the unit is not working and see if I can
>> fix it. This assumes physical damage to the circuit board of some sort.
>>      
> <...snip....>
>    
>>> The only way to be sure it is capacitor plague is to gut the unit and look
>>> at the PC board. If you look at the capacitors in it, and one or two are
>>> slightly bulged, or have black stuff that looks to be leaking from the
>>> bottoms, the device is dead, and should be replaced, unless you are the
>>> hacky type and change out the cap's or harvest the good parts off the corpse
>>> of the old switch.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Seann
>>>        
>
> The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is
> a white-ish powder under the PCB. It looks dirty. There is corrosion.
> Not sure it's
> worth fixing. It went on for well over a year working perfectly in a
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Mikkel L. Ellertson | 1 May 2009 02:51
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Re: Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly

Peter Langfelder wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Steven Kemp <SKemp010 <at> roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
>> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
>> Steve
> 
> I have Win XP  and F10 installed on the same HDD on a Lenovo T60
> laptop. No problems, but then I don't think I used the XP a single
> time since installing Fedora. To my knowledge the only issue is
> setting the hardware clock - when you install fedora, you choose a
> particular way of setting the clock so it doesn't clash with the one
> XP uses.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Peter
> 
I have much the same setup on my Toshiba A105-S4004, except I
patched the Windows registry for the hardware clock being in UTC. I
don't have the registry patch handy, but I can post it again if you
need it.

Mikkel
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Robert L Cochran
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Re: Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly


I, too, am quite happily running Windows XP and Fedora on a laptop on 
the same hard drive. For variety I've also done it with separate 
external hard drives over USB. A modern hardware system ought to be able 
to run multiple modern operating systems harmoniously from one or more 
hard drives. For me, it all works fine. Peter and others have noted the 
hardware clock issue which you have to take care of.

Bob

On 04/30/2009 08:51 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Peter Langfelder wrote:
>    
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Steven Kemp<SKemp010 <at> roadrunner.com>  wrote:
>>      
>>> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
>>> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
>>> Steve
>>>        
>> I have Win XP  and F10 installed on the same HDD on a Lenovo T60
>> laptop. No problems, but then I don't think I used the XP a single
>> time since installing Fedora. To my knowledge the only issue is
>> setting the hardware clock - when you install fedora, you choose a
>> particular way of setting the clock so it doesn't clash with the one
>> XP uses.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Peter
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Re: Fedora & XP on same machine, good bad or ugly


On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:32:16 -0400
Steven Kemp wrote:

> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.

I did it for a while, but got tired of it :-). It is good that
XP is already installed, because my experience has been that
a single ext3 filesystem in any partition anywhere on any disk
will make the XP installer crash almost the instant it starts,
so XP absolutely has to come first :-).

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Tom thanks,
installing on 200G, third partition of 320G, so F10 additional partitions will 
not be primary. thats OK I think.

Steve

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:32:16 -0400
> Steven Kemp wrote:
> 
>> Good Idea? on different hard drives. XP home installed now.
>> Good, Bad or ugly? Recommendations.
> 
> I did it for a while, but got tired of it :-). It is good that
> XP is already installed, because my experience has been that
> a single ext3 filesystem in any partition anywhere on any disk
> will make the XP installer crash almost the instant it starts,
> so XP absolutely has to come first :-).
> 

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Re: "Blinking lights of death" ? Netgear Switch GS108


Robert L Cochran wrote:
> On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote:
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>> The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is
<snip>
> You probably have Chinese- or Taiwanese-manufactured capacitors in that 
> unit, which are not as reliable as Japanese-manufactured capacitors. If 
> you search the net you will find lists of known-unreliable capacitor 
> manufacturers.

robert, aldo,

if you run a google search for 'bad caps' or 'bad capacitors', you will find
a large hit score.

most of hits will relate to a stolen recipe for capacitors that was missing
all ingredients.

it is primarily in asian countries and mainly lower level companies.

this hit mainly with mainboards and power supplies, along with other hardware
that use low cost capacitors.

this problems has pretty well ended, but when you make repair, do use a high
quality brand. radio shack does not fall with in high quality definition.

order from a local supplier, or a well know catalog supplier. small adds in
back of electronic magazines do not qualify.

also, be sure you check diodes as caps are known to take them out also.

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