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Nigel Henry | 1 Jan 2008 01:12
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Re: Way to temporarily disable plugins in Firefox, when testing site requirements

On Monday 31 December 2007 04:38, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 30 December 2007, Nigel Henry wrote:
> >On Sunday 30 December 2007 21:24, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Sunday 30 December 2007, Tom Horsley wrote:
> >> >On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:27:26 -0600
> >> >
> >> >Steven Stern <subscribed-lists <at> sterndata.com> wrote:
> >> >> There seems to be no quick and easy (and easily reversible) way to
> >> >> disable plugins.
> >> >
> >> >I have a little shell script that I use to rename libflashplayer.so
> >> >to NOTlibflashplayer.soNOT when I want to turn off flash, and
> >> >another script to do the reverse. I suppose a similar thing would
> >> >work for each plugin (at least the ones that come as shared libs
> >> >like flash).
> >>
> >> Another possibility, and one I've used for a while now because a blow it
> >> all away install of the next new version doesn't wipe it out, is to put
> >> your plugins directory tree out of the browsers own install tree, then
> >> symlink it to the real directory.  To disable all plugins is then a
> >> matter of going to that browsers tree and blowing away the plugins
> >> symlink.  Its easily restored.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Gene
> >
> >Hi Gene. Rahul's suggestion only suspends extensions (netcraft, add block
> >plus, etc) , but not the plugins in about:plugins.
> >
> >What would be ideal for me is having 2 desktop launchers for Firefox. One
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Mr.Scrooge | 1 Jan 2008 01:23
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Re: BlueTooth Issues

i have not experienced any headaches with fedora 8.At least nothing major, a couple of minor
issues overall but nothing that shut me down, just minor annoyances really. Perhaps my experience
is unique? A dozen disc's? Try one disc. Yeah one disc is all i needed to burn.
--- Donald Reader <fc-list <at> reader.ws> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 00:28 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2007 9:02 PM, Donald Reader <fc-list <at> reader.ws> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Man I am ready to give up on this project. I have looked for an updated
> > > package that will work on my system with
> > >  no results what so ever. Even tried the packages for the fc8 and fc9
> > > releases LOL even though I should not have.
> > >  the only one that comes close to working is kdebluetooth.i386
> > > 0:1.0-0.16.20060908svn.fc6. The only issue with it is
> > >  I still can not get the darn pin input box to popup like it should. It does
> > > read the headset. Also need to get the headset and
> > >  hands free services activated some how as that might be the issue. Again I
> > > don't my head from a hole in the ground on
> > >  this one.
> > >
> > >  SomeOne PLEASE help
> > >
> > >  Don
> > > --
> > 
> > Don,
> > 
> > A. FC6 has been EOL'ed and is no longer supported. You should consider
> > upgrading your FC6 machine to F7 or F8.
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Craig White | 1 Jan 2008 01:43

Re: Java problem

On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 16:32 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> > You could say the same of the US consitution.
> > After all why should the president not be able to cancel elections,
> they
> > interfere with his freedom to innovate foreign policy.
> 
> Be careful what you suggest...  The constitution hasn't stopped the 
> administration from creating a special class of people who are
> permitted 
> to invade privacy with no balancing oversight.  I'd expect them to be 
> using any information they collect to suit their own agenda.
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It isn't up to the constitution to stop the administration from doing
anything. The constitution stipulates 3 purportedly co-equal branches of
our government (the executive, legislative and judicial) to provide the
checks and balances. Therefore, it's mostly the responsibility of the
legislative branch to assert themselves and thus far, they have
abdicated, undoubtedly for reasons far too complex to reasonably dissect
here.

The entire analogy has lost it's way.

Craig

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Antonio Olivares | 1 Jan 2008 02:00
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Re: Java problem

> Restrictions to stop abuse, removal of rights by
> third parties and
> to produce greater freedom. You could say the same
> of the US consitution.
> After all why should the president not be able to
> cancel elections, they
> interfere with his freedom to innovate foreign
> policy.
>
1.  Because our president is an idiot, and even if he
were not, that would extend beyond his duties.^*
2.  Take Venezuela's president as another example, 
Bush would do the same thing if he could, but he would
not admit to it.^*
3.  take a careful look at the Patriot Act as well, it
infringes on many of the rights that the US
Constitution holds to be true because of #1 ^*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
4.  How in the world could he innovate his foreign
policy where very few to none of the nations in the
world appreciate him as a world leader?  
5.  People on this list are very sharp and can
add/subtract comments here justifying for/against what
are my $0.02 on the president's rights to suspend
elections.^*
6.  As for GPL restrictions/conditions the licenses
are there for serveral reasons, to protect the
author's work and for that work to be shared across
the board in the advancement of technology so that no
one person/corporation controls the code and what you
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Felix Miata | 1 Jan 2008 02:02
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Re: small machine needs a small linux.

On 2007/12/31 03:08 (GMT-0500) Ric Moore apparently typed:

> Anyone know offhand if there is a "small linux" distro that also uses
> rpms? I've got some PII's and PIII's to install to, and then give them
> away to our charity. So, I'd like something that can make use of these
> old machines and include a CD with each of them.

Why do you think a PII or PIII can't run Fedora acceptably? Any of Fedora,
Mandriva or OpenSUSE on any CPU of 500-600 MHz or more, FSB of 100 MHz or
more, and physical RAM of more than 256M should be adequate, depending on
intended use and choice of Desktop Environment. I have several recent/current
distros working KDE perfectly adequately on a 9 year old PIII-700 system with
512M RAM, and I haven't bothered on any of them to strip unneeded services.
Faster is certainly better, but don't let that distort your perception of
what is really required.

The speed of the newest systems has gotten so high that it screws up people's
perspective on what's really required.
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f8/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn-ArchSpecific-x86-hw
shows recommended CPU for graphical Fedora 8 is still only 400 MHz, RAM only 256M
-- 
Jesus Christ, the reason for the season.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

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Antonio Olivares | 1 Jan 2008 02:15
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Re: Java problem


--- Craig White <craigwhite <at> azapple.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 16:32 -0600, Les Mikesell
> wrote:
> > > You could say the same of the US consitution.
> > > After all why should the president not be able
> to cancel elections,
> > they
> > > interfere with his freedom to innovate foreign
> policy.
> > 
> > Be careful what you suggest...  The constitution
> hasn't stopped the 
> > administration from creating a special class of
> people who are
> > permitted 
> > to invade privacy with no balancing oversight. 
> I'd expect them to be 
> > using any information they collect to suit their
> own agenda.
> ----
> It isn't up to the constitution to stop the
> administration from doing
> anything. The constitution stipulates 3 purportedly
> co-equal branches of
> our government (the executive, legislative and
> judicial) to provide the
> checks and balances. Therefore, it's mostly the
> responsibility of the
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Antonio Olivares | 1 Jan 2008 02:16
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Re: Java problem


--- Craig White <craigwhite <at> azapple.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 16:32 -0600, Les Mikesell
> wrote:
> > > You could say the same of the US consitution.
> > > After all why should the president not be able
> to cancel elections,
> > they
> > > interfere with his freedom to innovate foreign
> policy.
> > 
> > Be careful what you suggest...  The constitution
> hasn't stopped the 
> > administration from creating a special class of
> people who are
> > permitted 
> > to invade privacy with no balancing oversight. 
> I'd expect them to be 
> > using any information they collect to suit their
> own agenda.
> ----
> It isn't up to the constitution to stop the
> administration from doing
> anything. The constitution stipulates 3 purportedly
> co-equal branches of
> our government (the executive, legislative and
> judicial) to provide the
> checks and balances. Therefore, it's mostly the
> responsibility of the
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Tim | 1 Jan 2008 02:25
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Re: BlueTooth Issues

On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 15:43 -0800, Donald Reader wrote:
> This has sure taught me a lesson about trying to get help anywhere. As
> usual left on your own no matter what. 

Grizzle like that and you're unlikely to get much help.  It's moderately
easy to install without having to install from a collection of discs, if
you have hard drive space to spare during the install.

After reading your message, I'm not that inclined to help beyond
pointing out the basics of one simple method:

1. Download and burn the rescue disc ISO.
2. Download the install DVD ISO to a hard drive partition with plenty of
space, and leave it there.  If you use systems without multiple
partitions, or without any large enough, then you can use a main
partition, just remove the prior files before trying to install (*).
3. Boot the rescue disc, choose install from hard drive, pick the hard
drive partition with the DVD ISO on it, make sure that partition isn't
reformatted during the install process (it shouldn't let you, it should
protest if you try, but I wouldn't depend on something like that).

* Presuming something like one partition for / and most sub-directories.
One could boot the rescue disc, and switch over to another console and
"rm -rfd" everything but the location where you've saved the ISO file.
It's probably a good idea to rename /home/ if you want to keep it.  Let
the new install create a new home, then copy over older bits after the
install.  Not everything in /home works well between different releases.
Then you'd switch back to the install console, and carry on using the
installer.
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Karl Larsen | 1 Jan 2008 02:31
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Anoter update feasko

I tried to get this up and got this:

[root <at> k5di ~]# yum update
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package bcel.noarch 0:5.2-3jpp set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: regexp for package: bcel
---> Package jdom.noarch 0:1.0-5jpp set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: jaxen for package: jdom
---> Package jakarta-commons-collections.noarch 0:3.2-2jpp set to be updated
---> Package jakarta-commons-logging.noarch 0:1.1-4jpp set to be updated
---> Package werken-xpath.noarch 0:0.9.4-0.beta.13jpp set to be updated
---> Package jpackage-utils.noarch 0:1.7.3-2jpp set to be updated
---> Package velocity.noarch 0:1.5-2jpp set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: jakarta-commons-lang for package: velocity
--> Processing Dependency: servletapi4 for package: velocity
--> Processing Dependency: excalibur-avalon-logkit for package: velocity
--> Running transaction check
---> Package jakarta-commons-lang.i386 0:2.1-6jpp.1.fc7 set to be updated
---> Package excalibur-avalon-logkit.noarch 1:2.2.1-0.r508111.3jpp set 
to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: javamail for package: excalibur-avalon-logkit
--> Processing Dependency: excalibur = 1:1.0-0.r508111.3jpp for package: 
excalibur-avalon-logkit
--> Processing Dependency: geronimo-jms-1.1-api for package: 
excalibur-avalon-logkit
---> Package jaxen.noarch 0:1.1-4jpp set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: xom for package: jaxen
--> Processing Dependency: dom4j >= 1.6.1 for package: jaxen
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Tim | 1 Jan 2008 02:33
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Re: Intermittent Disaster

On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 15:42 -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
> [root <at> localhost ~]# tail /var/log/squid/squid.out
> Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE16): Terminated abnormally.
> CPU Usage: 0.010 seconds = 0.003 user + 0.007 sys
> Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
> Page faults with physical i/o: 9
> FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please 
> set 'visible_hostname'
> 
> Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE16): Terminated abnormally.
> CPU Usage: 0.009 seconds = 0.004 user + 0.005 sys
> Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
> Page faults with physical i/o: 0
> 
> and then Firefox can't get out with page requests. I reset it so it
> works ok, but where would I set the visible hostname? 

I seem to recall that if you had your networking set up properly in the
first place, Squid could work out what your hostname is for itself.
Though you could specifically set it in the Squid configuration file
(necessary for machine with several hostnames, and you didn't want to
use the default).

Brute force approach:  Open the squid configuration file in an editor,
and search through it for "name", read the comments nearby.  You'll find
the place where you can set it soon enough.

But is your hosts file set up correctly?  You should have something
like:
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