JD | 11 May 01:00 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

On 05/10/11 15:32, Konstantinos Karantias wrote:
> Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for
> Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that
> bad.
>
> If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
> they're some.

I forgot to mention this huge factoid:

http://fixunix.com/linux/557001-microsoft-losing-revenue-linux%3B-only-beginning.html

So, if anyone believe the MS is friendly to Linux'ers: wake up and smell 
the news.

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Tom Horsley | 11 May 01:19 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

On Wed, 11 May 2011 01:32:57 +0300
Konstantinos Karantias wrote:

> If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
> they're some.

What MS should worry about (but won't) is the Windows users they
are going to drive away with their inevitable "improvements".
It cost Microsoft 8.5 gigabucks today, and in 10 years they will
probably have lost ever skype user in the world :-).
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Rick Sewill | 11 May 01:43 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 04:54:33 PM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
...
> Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same
> quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service?

I would like to know the answer to this question also.

I've been reading about Google and xmpp and jingle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29

I found a firefox plugin I could download.
>From URL: http://www.google.com/chat/video
I clicked "Install voice and video chat" 
and got to URL: http://www.google.com/chat/video/download.html
I installed the rpm.
I haven't tested it much...I did call my google voice number 
to see if I could answer and I could.  
I assume I can call out too, but haven't tried.

Always keeping firefox running is not satisfactory for me.
I have an older machine, with not enough ram or cpu power.

I was hoping to use an open source voip client program.
empathy seems to use libjingle and will let me know when
there is an incoming google voice call, but it doesn't work.
Google voice wants me to "press 1" to accept the call.
I have no way to "press 1" in empathy.

I haven't had any success with any other client program.
I tried kopete, gajim, without success.
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Ralph Blach | 11 May 01:44 2011
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disk hangs with asus boards

every few days I have either my root file system hang or my disk array hang.

I am running a asus p5n_d

my root file system is on a single 500gb disk attached to the asus mother board.

[0:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD5000AADS-0 01.0  /dev/sda <------root
[4:0:0:0]    cd/dvd  ATAPI    iHAS324   Y      BL1W  /dev/sr0
[9:0:0:0]    disk    AMCC     9650SE-4LP DISK  4.10  /dev/sdb <======data

the cpu is
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9400   <at>  2.66GHz

All the disk hangs look like this, but I dont have one from the root file system because the root get remounted
Read Only.

Since I See hangs across both disk, so I do not think it is the 3 ware controller or disk.

Apr 16 00:01:29 chipblach kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi9: AEN: INFO (0x04:0x0029): Verify started:unit=0.
Apr 16 03:00:51 chipblach kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi9: AEN: INFO (0x04:0x002B): Verify completed:unit=0.
Apr 16 03:07:10 chipblach pulseaudio[2430]: ratelimit.c: 88 events suppressed
Apr 16 03:19:12 chipblach kernel: sd 9:0:0:0: WARNING: (0x06:0x002C): Command (0x2a) timed out,
resetting card.
Apr 16 03:19:40 chipblach kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi9: WARNING: (0x06:0x0037): Character ioctl (0x108)
timed out, resetting card.
Apr 16 03:20:18 chipblach kernel: sd 9:0:0:0: WARNING: (0x06:0x002C): Command (0x0) timed out,
resetting card.
Apr 16 03:21:13 chipblach kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi9: WARNING: (0x06:0x0037): Character ioctl (0x108)
timed out, resetting card.
Apr 16 03:21:35 chipblach kernel: INFO: task jbd2/dm-2-8:1220 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
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suvayu ali | 11 May 01:44 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same
> quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service?

Although not voip, audio/video calls over XMPP (Google Talk) with
Pidgin and Empathy works without fail for me. Even Google's browser
plugin works nicely for me. It adds voip functionality to Google Talk.

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JD | 11 May 03:58 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

On 05/10/11 08:42, Roger wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 15:49 -0700, JD wrote:
>> On 05/10/11 15:32, Konstantinos Karantias wrote:
>>> Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for
>>> Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that
>>> bad.
>>>
>>> If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
>>> they're some.
>>>
> Funny how no one is mentioning the massive database of names, addresses,
> call records and user preferences, etc, etc,etc  MS are purchasing.
> Wouldn't this be worth more than user likes or dislikes.
> Remember nothing in life is free it all has some strings attached and I
> believe user tracking is usually attached to most "free" internet
> things.
>
> The only problem with Ekiga and similar solutions is that everyone you
> know also has to install it and most skype users won't change.
> Roger
>
You responded to my post, but you did not include
in your replay a quote of what I said :)

While it is true that "most" skype users will not change,
since so called "most" users are windows users, not Linux
users, even dual Windows and Linux Users, like myself.
I was merely prognosticating that MS will not continue
to support Linux because, as I showed by what I was able
to glean from the web, MS is hostile to Open Source in
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Thomas Cameron | 11 May 04:04 2011

Re: pings with noise


On 05/10/2011 10:58 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> According to the man page whenever you use the -a option on the ping
> command as in:
> ping -a ip-address
> each ping return should cause a noise to be generated.
> 
> I can't seem to get that too happen. What could be wrong?

As root, "modprobe pcspkr"

Then it works as expected.
Thomas Cameron | 11 May 04:27 2011

Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?


On 05/10/2011 05:32 PM, Konstantinos Karantias wrote:
> Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for
> Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that
> bad.

I think they are exactly that bad. Do you not remember Ballmer making
claims about Linux being a cancer? The BS claims about Linux infringing
on 235 patents? The attempt after attempt after attempt to crush Free
software?

> If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
> they're some.

They've already lost this one. I will NOT do business with Microsoft.

> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:18 AM, JD <jd1008 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 05/10/11 14:54, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I just lost enthusiasm in further use of skype. Being closed source was
>> bad enough already, but I tolerated it due to its good-enough quality,
>> reliability and free-of-charge use for skype-to-skype calls. But now that
>> Microsoft is taking it over, I suddenly lost faith that these good features
>> will still be there from now on (not to mention Linux support).
>>
>> Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same
>> quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service?
>>
>> I do know that there are such VoIP apps, but I am not familiar with the
>> quality of service, availability and accessibility of each of those. I am
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Paul Morgan | 11 May 04:32 2011
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?


On May 10, 2011 10:28 PM, "Thomas Cameron" <thomas.cameron <at> camerontech.com> wrote:
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> On 05/10/2011 05:32 PM, Konstantinos Karantias wrote:
> > Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for
> > Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that
> > bad.
>
> I think they are exactly that bad. Do you not remember Ballmer making
> claims about Linux being a cancer? The BS claims about Linux infringing
> on 235 patents? The attempt after attempt after attempt to crush Free
> software?
>
> > If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
> > they're some.
>
> They've already lost this one. I will NOT do business with Microsoft.

+1

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Khemara Lyn | 11 May 04:32 2011

Looking for a Howto on Clustering Servers

Dear All,

Anyone knows of a howto doc somewhere for clustering servers with 
Fedora/RedHat/CentOS?
Or anyone's got some tips for me on that?

Thanks & regards,
Khem
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