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[Fwd: [DejaVu-fonts] Unicode Viewer released]

In case someone on the lists finds this interesting and wants to package
it Fedora-side

-------- Message transféré --------
De: Harald Vajkonny 

Dear friends,

we are pleased to announce that the first version of "Unicode Viewer" is
now available for download.

Unicode Viewer is a tool for browsing Unicode tables to obtain detailed
information about every glyph. It provides a GUI with multiple functions
for navigating through the data and a Lua scripting interface to create
new functions. It also displays each glyph's DUCET-information and
allows sorting according to an order specified in an allkeys.txt-File.
Sort order tailoring is not yet implemented but about to come.

We also try to implement an interface to access fontforge. Any ideas for functions and features are
strongly welcome.

It runs on Linux, MacOS and Windows machines.

Please visitit the project's page:
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/ucviewer/

For the impatient, you may also (on Linux):
    svn co https://ucviewer.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ucviewer  ucviewer
    qmake
    make
    ./UnicodeViewer
    sudo make install

If you want to leave a comment about your experience with this program
or want to become a developer, please subscribe to the project's mailing
list:
    https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ucviewer-general

Best regards,
Harald Vajkonny

(I hope, I did not break any rules by posting this announcement here)

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Gnu FreeFont package information

Hi,

The information for the Fedora package
    gnu-free-font
is badly out of date.

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/beta/6/SRPMS/repoview/gnu-free-fonts.html

I don't know how to fix this, so I'm writing to the list.  Please let
me know who I should contact, if the list isn't the right place!

The website is not
	http://www.nongnu.org/freefont/
it is
	http://www.gnu.org/freefont/

The license is not
	GPLv2+ with exceptions
It ought to be
	GPLv3+ with special font exception

The latest version is
	2010-09-19
Read more about it at
	http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/freefont/

Cheers!
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Re: [Fwd: [DejaVu-fonts] Unicode Viewer released]

On 10/18/2010 12:32 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> In case someone on the lists finds this interesting and wants to package
> it Fedora-side

Review Request opened:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644669

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Re: Gnu FreeFont package information

Please file a bug to keep it on track.

---
Akira TAGOH

----- "Steve White" <stevan.white <at> googlemail.com>さんが書いたメッセージ：

| Hi,
| 
| The information for the Fedora package
|     gnu-free-font
| is badly out of date.
| 
| http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/beta/6/SRPMS/repoview/gnu-free-fonts.html
| 
| I don't know how to fix this, so I'm writing to the list.  Please let
| me know who I should contact, if the list isn't the right place!
| 
| The website is not
| 	http://www.nongnu.org/freefont/
| it is
| 	http://www.gnu.org/freefont/
| 
| The license is not
| 	GPLv2+ with exceptions
| It ought to be
| 	GPLv3+ with special font exception
| 
| The latest version is
| 	2010-09-19
| Read more about it at
| 	http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/freefont/
| 
| Cheers!
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| fonts <at> lists.fedoraproject.org
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Unicode-friendly TTF fonts in Fedora and/or EPEL?

Good evening,

I'm trying to migrate a software of my employer from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8.
The software itself has some kind of UTF-8 support, but we didn't write the
the code ourself, which seems me to bring where I am now (bah!).

I'm looking for a Unicode-friendly TTF font in Fedora and/or EPEL. At the
moment, we are using "Sazanami Mincho", but users from Japan told us, that
some of the characters would be represented wrong for Japanese, but correct
for Chinese and/or Taiwanese.

In the end, we need replacements for something like Helvetica (sans-serif),
Times Roman (serif) and Courier (fixed) - with as many characters supported
as possible. It needs to be a *.ttf file, because we have to use ttf2afm(1)
for getting the font into our software.

Beside of that, that font(s) should somehow cover (if possible?) the above
mentioned issue with the same character in JP/CN/TW but with a slightly
different representation depending on the country. Is there a font which is
covering that? Is there maybe one (!) font which is somehow acceptable for
all countries, meaning Japanese, Chinese and Taiwanese people - without any
claims by users that some characters are not perfect? "Sazanami Mincho" has
many characters (from what we got), but we've claiming users :(

If it's somehow relevant, because I don't understand JP/CN/TW, the software
is a Enterprise Resource Planning system, that means it's used at business,
at organisations etc. If JP/CN/TW has any characters which are not relevant
to business, the font hasn't necessarily to support them then... 

Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for a font that could fit
our needs? Hope to hear something else than "design your own font" by you.
Maybe we (Fedora) have native speakers for JP/CN/TW, who could help here?

Greetings,
  Robert

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Re: Unicode-friendly TTF fonts in Fedora and/or EPEL?

>>>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:57:27 +0200,
>>>>> "RS" == Robert Scheck <robert@...> wrote:

RS> I'm looking for a Unicode-friendly TTF font in Fedora and/or EPEL. At the
RS> moment, we are using "Sazanami Mincho", but users from Japan told us, that
RS> some of the characters would be represented wrong for Japanese, but correct
RS> for Chinese and/or Taiwanese.

Not really. it was based on the machine-generated and
somewhat improved by the hand. but is a poor quality right.

RS> In the end, we need replacements for something like Helvetica (sans-serif),
RS> Times Roman (serif) and Courier (fixed) - with as many characters supported
RS> as possible. It needs to be a *.ttf file, because we have to use ttf2afm(1)
RS> for getting the font into our software.

RS> Beside of that, that font(s) should somehow cover (if possible?) the above
RS> mentioned issue with the same character in JP/CN/TW but with a slightly
RS> different representation depending on the country. Is there a font which is
RS> covering that? Is there maybe one (!) font which is somehow acceptable for
RS> all countries, meaning Japanese, Chinese and Taiwanese people - without any
RS> claims by users that some characters are not perfect? "Sazanami Mincho" has
RS> many characters (from what we got), but we've claiming users :(

I'd personally say no because they prefer different
typefaces. though Google Droid fonts may be a candidate for
unified fonts. but I don't like it really. at least it's a
bit far from the modern typefaces for Japanese. FWIW this
efforts are came from Android project though, recently
another better Japanese fonts are available there. this
would means how it wasn't accepted, but anyway.

RS> If it's somehow relevant, because I don't understand JP/CN/TW, the software
RS> is a Enterprise Resource Planning system, that means it's used at business,
RS> at organisations etc. If JP/CN/TW has any characters which are not relevant
RS> to business, the font hasn't necessarily to support them then... 

RS> Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for a font that could fit
RS> our needs? Hope to hear something else than "design your own font" by you.
RS> Maybe we (Fedora) have native speakers for JP/CN/TW, who could help here?

I guess it would be better not think of having only one font
for all of the languages. you could pull an idea from
current default fonts in Fedora. those should be
comprehensively better fonts so far.

RS> Greetings,
RS>   Robert

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Re: Unicode-friendly TTF fonts in Fedora and/or EPEL?

Hello Akira,

thank you very much for your reply.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Akira TAGOH wrote:
> I guess it would be better not think of having only one font for all of
> the languages. you could pull an idea from current default fonts in
> Fedora. those should be comprehensively better fonts so far.

From what I got when searching with Google, only JP/CN/TW/KR are somehow
special about the characters. For us, that would mean 4 fonts plus one for
the rest of the world could do the job, right? Or did I overlook something?

Do you have a recommendation for a good font that we could use for JP, a
good one we could use for CN, one for TW and one for KR? If we can't have
one font for all, let's try to have one font per country - does this work?

The goal is to make our users in APAC stop complaining by using the best
font out there. If that means, we need multiple fonts, it isn't that easy
as we hoped and assumed, but then it is as it is.

Any font name recommendations?

Greetings,
  Robert

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Re: Unicode-friendly TTF fonts in Fedora and/or EPEL?

On 10/20/2010 10:27 PM, Akira TAGOH wrote:

> I guess it would be better not think of having only one font
> for all of the languages.

But Unicode has separate character ranges for Chinese, Japanese, and 
Korean now.  Can't you use a font that has distinct glyphs for those 
characters?

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Re: Unicode-friendly TTF fonts in Fedora and/or EPEL?

Hello John,

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, francis+fedora+fonts@... wrote:
> But Unicode has separate character ranges for Chinese, Japanese, and 
> Korean now.  Can't you use a font that has distinct glyphs for those 
> characters?

which font(s) in Fedora could provide that or would satisfy that? Again,
whatever font or fonts we use, the characters/symbols in CN/JP/TW/KR should
be as perfect as possible to avoid the user complaints, that we right now
get when using "Sazanami Mincho".

Greetings,
  Robert

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