Phil Knirsch | 24 Apr 18:12 2014
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[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 25. Apr 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

Agenda:
  - Status update on merge reviews, tech spec, securetty proposal
  - Open floor

Thanks & regards, Phil

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Andrew Lutomirski | 24 Apr 01:59 2014
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Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

Hi everyone-

This is a notice in accordance with the mass bug filing procedure.

A number of packages install systemd units and enable them
automatically.  They should not.  Please update these packages to use the
macroized scriptlet
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd).

If your package has an exception from FESCo permitting it to enable
itself, please make sure that the service in question is listed in the
appropriate preset file.

There is a general exception described here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Starting_services_by_default

If your package falls under the general exception, then it is possible
that no change is required.  Nevertheless, if you are relying on the
exception, please make sure that your rpm scripts are sensible.  The
exception is:

In addition, any service which does not remain persistent on the
system (aka, it "runs once then goes away"), does not listen to
incoming connections during initialization, and does not require
configuration to be functional may be enabled by default (but is not
required to do so). An example of "runs once then goes away" service
is iptables.

Given that this issue can affect Fedora 20 users who install your
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Lukáš Nykrýn | 24 Apr 16:38 2014
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[RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

Hi,
for the F22 I am planning some bigger changes regarding initscripts and 
I would like to ask for comments.

Initscripts package was in the past a crucial part of the system. They 
basicaly set up whole system during the boot. Currently initscripts 
package contains "support" for initscripts (/etc/init.d/function, 
service command), network initscripts and tons of leftovers.

So my plan is following:

We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where every 
service uses a systemd unit, so this part does not have to be installed 
by default, but could be pulled in as a dependency.

Network initscript. This will be probably the most controversial part.
In fedora 21 we will have three different tools for networking 
(initscripts, NetworkManager and systemd-networkd) and all of them will 
be installed by default. For various design reasons network initscripts 
does not have any future (it is completely synchronous and does not work 
with parallel boot very well). So I would like to split it in its own 
package and drop it in the future. For most of the use-cases NM is 
sufficient replacement and if somebody will miss a static configuration 
we are planning to replace network initscript functionality in networkd.

Than there are scripts and configs like
/etc/crypttab
/etc/inittab
/etc/profile.d/256term.sh
/usr/lib/systemd/fedora-autorelabel
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Florian Weimer | 24 Apr 15:47 2014
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Automatically generated configuration files

I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during 
package installation.

One aspect is that these files obviously have to be generated on the 
system during installation (or first service start) and cannot be 
shipped in the package.  Some existing RPMs just drop files into 
/etc/pki/certs and /etc/pki/tls/private, without marking them as ghost 
files or configuration files.  (I'm not even sure if you can mark 
something for which no content is provided in the RPM as a configuration 
file.)

I wonder what an ideal RPM package would do in this case?

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Stanislav Ochotnicky | 24 Apr 14:46 2014
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Orphaning most of my packages


I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. The
full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all of my Maven
related packages as primary maintainer). Here's the remaining bits that
need a new home:

 * plotutils
 * python-gudev
 * python-icalendar
 * python-webdav-library
 * freemind

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Marianne Lombard | 24 Apr 14:20 2014
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Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

Hi,

I'm writing today because I have submitted my first package for review : 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090933

I'm a sysadmin since a few years in a public research center and we are 
using (a lot) of free and open-source software. So I will probably work 
on sysadmin / scientific tools.
I will need a sponsor and I hope to find someone soon (probably a french 
like me because my english is not perfect)

  Marianne

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Miroslav Suchý | 24 Apr 11:29 2014
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Copr and Playground plugin part of dnf-plugins-core?

In https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090516
Jiri asked for removing Copr (and Playground) DNF plugin out of dnf-plugins-core.

Since this is not technical but merely political question I would like to ask wider audience:
Put your voice here please:
    http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5358d77de4b06a67c5b08e05
If there will be significant votes for one option, I would do what most of you wish.
Otherwise I will forward it to Fesco for decision.
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James Antill | 23 Apr 19:39 2014

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2014-04-24 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

 Local time information (via. rktime):

2014-04-24 09:00 Thu US/Pacific             PDT
2014-04-24 12:00 Thu US/Eastern             EDT
2014-04-24 16:00 Thu UTC <-
2014-04-24 17:00 Thu Europe/London          BST
2014-04-24 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris          CEST
2014-04-24 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin         CEST
2014-04-24 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta          IST
------------------new day----------------------
2014-04-25 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore         SGT
2014-04-25 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong         HKT
2014-04-25 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo             JST
2014-04-25 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane     EST

 Links to all tickets below can be found at: 

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12

= Followups =

(approval and retirement sections already passed, /opt exception passed)
#topic #339     software collections in Fedora
.fpc 339
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339

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James Antill | 23 Apr 19:39 2014
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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2014-04-24 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

 Local time information (via. rktime):

2014-04-24 09:00 Thu US/Pacific             PDT
2014-04-24 12:00 Thu US/Eastern             EDT
2014-04-24 16:00 Thu UTC <-
2014-04-24 17:00 Thu Europe/London          BST
2014-04-24 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris          CEST
2014-04-24 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin         CEST
2014-04-24 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta          IST
------------------new day----------------------
2014-04-25 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore         SGT
2014-04-25 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong         HKT
2014-04-25 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo             JST
2014-04-25 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane     EST

 Links to all tickets below can be found at: 

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12

= Followups =

(approval and retirement sections already passed, /opt exception passed)
#topic #339     software collections in Fedora
.fpc 339
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339

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Fedora Rawhide Report | 23 Apr 17:32 2014

rawhide report: 20140423 changes


Broken deps for i386
----------------------------------------------------------
[MegaMek]
	MegaMek-0.30.11-13.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat
	MegaMek-0.30.11-13.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat
[PyKDE]
	PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.i686 requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0
[aunit]
	aunit-2013-2.fc21.i686 requires libgnat-4.8.so
[aws]
	aws-3.1.0-4.fc21.i686 requires libgnat-4.8.so
	aws-3.1.0-4.fc21.i686 requires libgnarl-4.8.so
	aws-devel-3.1.0-4.fc21.i686 requires libgnat-4.8.so
	aws-devel-3.1.0-4.fc21.i686 requires libgnarl-4.8.so
[compat-gcc-34]
	compat-gcc-34-c++-3.4.6-29.fc19.i686 requires libstdc++ < 0:4.9.0
[csound]
	csound-java-5.19.01-1.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat
	csound-java-5.19.01-1.fc20.i686 requires java-gcj-compat
	csound-java-5.19.01-1.fc20.i686 requires java-1.5.0-gcj
[deltacloud-core]
	deltacloud-core-rackspace-1.1.3-1.fc20.noarch requires rubygem(cloudfiles)
[derelict]
	derelict-tcod-3-26.201410303git9570453.fc21.i686 requires tcod
	derelict-tcod-devel-3-26.201410303git9570453.fc21.i686 requires tcod
[devtodo2]
	devtodo2-2.1-8.20120711git8dee6.fc21.i686 requires libgo.so.4
[dragonegg]
	dragonegg-3.4-0.3.rc0.fc21.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.2-14.fc21
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Michael Schwendt | 23 Apr 17:29 2014
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Audacious 3.5 entering Rawhide

With the fresh release of Audacious 3.5 final [1], I'm going to push this
new release also to Rawhide. It has been available via Copr [2] since
alpha1 already, and although I've not received any user feedback on the
pre-releases at all, I've evaluated it personally and also followed
upstream activity.

Relevant for the Fedora packages:
 - plugin package rebuilds will be needed due to a new Plugin API version
 - the Plugin API version has moved into header api.h, so package spec
   files that grep the version need to be adjusted
 - the API changes may require minor modifications to external plugins

I'll rebuild xmp-plugin-audacious as necessary unless there will be
a request not to do that yet.

[1] http://audacious-media-player.org/news/27-audacious-3-5-released
[2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-March/196147.html
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