Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-10-06

Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-oct-06

Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.

== Ticket Review ==
* (spins for Fedora 9) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/24
** Need feedback from spin owners
* (Add a time stamp to the rawhide info) - Fedora Release Engineering - 
Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/25
* (F9 Postmortem follow-up) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/106
** f13 to add updates
* (infrastructure for creating desktop live cds daily) - Fedora Release 
Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/764
* (Resign everything) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/767
** progressing--almost done
** see IRC log for details
* (spam-o-matic uses provides rather than package name in some 
instances) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/832

== Fedora 10 Snapshot 1 ==
* Coming this week
* Concerns about stability of anaconda

== IRC Transcript ==

Upgrading to F10 was a bad experience

Hi,
I just upgraded a perfectly fine F9 installation into F10-beta. And
the experience was not too good! Please find issues below

1- Right after anaconda starts, I switched back to tty1, and noticed
the following somehow scary messages "DB4 error database envrionment
version mismatch" "Cannot open packages database"! Please find a
screensot attached "rpmdb-ver-mismatch.jpg"

2- Anaconda does not start in the correct wide screen resolution
1280x800. Nothing major, but still looks bad

3- At the end of the upgrade, the tiny message window before the
reboot button appears kept flickering very heavily for 5 minutes+. I
took a video snapshot if anyone is interested!

4- After the first restart, noticed so many file system and sendmail
notes of "File modification time in the future .. fixing" ?!

5- Then a major bumper, X startx, the mouse is there with the circles
running around it, however GDM does not appear ... I wait and wait ...
nothing. I log into text mode, and find this message
"Oct  7 19:48:01 kamal-lappy gdm-simple-slave[3100]: WARNING: Could
not spawn command: Failed to execute child process
"/usr/bin/gnome-session" (No such file
or directory)
Oct  7 19:48:01 kamal-lappy gdm-simple-slave[3100]: WARNING: Could not
start command '/usr/bin/gnome-session
--autostart=/usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow
/': Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/gnome-session" (No such

Disappointed: My feature was removed without noticing me

I have been informed that my LXDE feature [1] has been removed from F10
and delayed fore F11. I'm very disappointed about that, especially
because nobody cared to inform me about this decision.

I knew my feature was late, but I did everything I could to rescue it. I
followed all the advice from the feature wrangler, what more could I do?
Upon this question the feature wrangler told my that I had to watch
fedora-devel-announce and especially the meeting minutes. But this won't
help because no announcement has been made on the list and the latest
meeting minutes were published on September 10th. (BTW: Meeting minutes
seem to be published only sporadic recently.)

Looking through the IRC log [2] I find only very little information
about the LXDE removal. The topic was discussed very shortly and the
decision was made by only 2 people. And I think it was based on wrong
information. wwoods incorrectly assumed there were _no_ LXDE packages
ready yet, nirik corrected him the _some_ are ready, but in fact _all_
except two are.
The only argument that's sounds convincing to me (although I don't
really understand it) is nottings concerns about the breaking the string
freeze. Can somebody please explain this a little more in depth to me?
Looking at the F10 schedule i see string freeze was on September 11, so
why did nobody realize that my feature collided with string freeze
anyway?

So my questions are:
     1. If we could finish the reviews within the next two days, is
        there still a chance left to get this feature into F10?
     2. If we can't get it ready as a feature, can I at least get the
        missing packages into F10 and make rel-eng tag them final?

Plan for tomorrows (20081008) FESCO meeting

Hi,

Please find below the list of topics that are likely to come up in the
next FESCo meeting that is scheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday at 17:00
UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org (NOTE: Please note that we've
moved our start time an hour earlier):

/topic FESCo meeting -- Any objection to last week's report from FPC at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-September/msg02133.html

/topic FESCo-Meeting -- Features - all

/topic FESCo-Meeting -- MinGW follow-up? - all

/topic FESCo meeting -- Free discussion around Fedora

You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to
this mail and I'll add it to the schedule.  You can also propose topics
in the meeting while it is in the "Free discussion around Fedora" phase.

Later,
/B
--

-- 
Brian Pepple <bpepple <at> fedoraproject.org>

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E
BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B  CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E

Remove a branch directory completely from cvs

Hiyas,

according to the UsingCvsFaq[1] one can remove a branch directory from cvs 
with "cvs remove". I tried this, but it seems not to work. I removed 
the "FC-1" directory from pam_mount, but when I cvs co'ed the pam_mount 
directory again, an empty "FC-1" directory appeared. Is there some parameter 
I can pass to "cvs remove" to get the directory removed, too?

Regards,
Till

 [1] 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/UsingCvsFaq#How_do_I_remove_a_branch_I_no_longer_want_or_need.3F

--

-- 
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

How to package code compiled with 'gcc -m32'?

I've got a nasty program I'm trying to package for Fedora.  To cut a
very long story short, this C/C++ mixed program started out on Windows
and makes lots of 32 bit assumptions.  So it's compiled with 'gcc -m32'.

Expressing the build requirements so it can build on a 64 bit platform
is proving troublesome.  (It builds fine on i386).

First problem is that it uses <gnu/stubs.h> which includes
<gnu/stubs-[WORDSIZE].h> (ie. <gnu/stubs-32.h>).  That file isn't in
glibc-devel.x86_64, but only in glibc-devel.i386.

I've expressed that with a file dependency which breaks Fedora
packaging guidelines:

  BuildRequires:  /usr/include/gnu/stubs-32.h

The second and much larger problem is that the code uses wxGTK-devel,
and (because it's being compiled with gcc -m32) it has to have the 32
bit version.

This should work (on x86-64 at least, not ppc64):

  BuildRequires:  wxGTK-devel.i386

but in fact even with the latest version of rpmbuild in Rawhide it
doesn't work.  So I have to write:

  BuildRequires:  wxGTK-devel

which doesn't express the dependency correctly, or:

[Fedora-packaging] looking for a sponsor and review ;)

hi all 
	I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I submitted a
package request review and I'm looking for a sponsor.

The package is symbolic (https://fedorahosted.org/symbolic) and my
request is here [1].

I think the spec file is pretty good, but I'm not sure it's perfect.

Thanks in advance.
Luca

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465478
-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 61st day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174

You will be married within a year.

--
Fedora-packaging mailing list
Fedora-packaging <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging

--

-- 
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

looking for a few good reviewers :)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429590
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fur-elise-not-on-fedora/

As there are not many (any?) media center packages on Fedora this one
package gives Fedora a great abbility so that Fedora could be used as
a Media Center.

Any reviewers interested?

Cheers,
Valent.

-- 
http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/
linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless
registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org.
ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

--

-- 
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Mysterious cmake failure on ppc64

I get this while trying to build kdepim-4.1.2-2.fc10 for dist-f10 on ppc64:
-- Looking for include files SYS_INOTIFY_H_FOUND - found
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
  what():  basic_string::erase
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.SsHcUA: line 47: 26805 
Aborted                 /usr/bin/cmake -DLIB_SUFFIX=64 [...]
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.SsHcUA (%build)

This is reproducible (I tried resubmitting it twice, all 3 builds failed).

The only change with respect to kdepim-4.1.2-1.fc10, which built successfully, 
is that this is a rebuild against the new libgnokii, but I don't see how that 
can be responsible. Maybe some other package changed in the buildroot, causing 
this?

        Kevin Kofler

--

-- 
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

rawhide report: 20081007 changes

Compose started at Tue Oct  7 06:01:27 UTC 2008

New package OmegaT
        Computer Aid Translation tool
New package htmlparser
        HTML Parser, a Java library used to parse HTML
New package hunspell-hsb
        Upper Sorbian hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-nds
        Lowlands Saxon hunspell dictionaries
New package hunspell-rw
        Kinyarwanda hunspell dictionaries
New package mediawiki-Cite
        An extension to provide Citation tools for Mediawiki
New package opticalraytracer
        Utility that analyzes systems of lenses
New package perl-Mouse
        Moose minus the antlers
New package spu-binutils
        A GNU collection of binary utilities
Updated Packages:

FlightGear-1.0.0-4.fc10
-----------------------
* Sun Oct  5 18:00:00 2008 Fabrice Bellet <fabrice <at> bellet.info> 1.0.0-4
- fixed category of the menu entry (rh#465698)

PackageKit-0.3.6-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Mon Oct  6 18:00:00 2008 Richard Hughes  <rhughes <at> redhat.com> - 0.3.6-2

bug #464192 - help needed

Hi,

Could anybody help with the following recode bug?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464192

Thanks
Zoltan

--

-- 
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list <at> redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list